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[WARCRACK]

I would like to know what group/organization/unit is in the best/most serious position to be the leadership of House Liao.

Word of Lowtax? St. Ives? Any strong Merc units?

How many active players are you boasting? Full rooms on comms (i.e. Mumble, TS, Vent, etc.)? Resources?

[Vanguard319]

Does the Word of Lowtax still play? I haven't heard much from them since the 3pv flamewar. There hasn't been a new VCRS in two months either, which makes me wonder if they lost interest/ragequit.

[WARCRACK]

That would be too bad if they did because they did have many really good pilots.

[dal10]

basically the goons mostly left partially because rage, partially because bored partially because EVE is heating up for them. they will likely back if we get to CW however.

[WARCRACK]

In the meantime, any strong merc unit/faction unit that wants to carry the mantle of leadership?

[Stoneblade]

I think it would be best if we just would consolidate under 1 comm channel system, instead of three or four or random.

[WARCRACK]

I agree, we need a comm channel where all Liao can meetup, and good leadership that can lead the way and bring people together. My suggestion would be a strong merc unit/faction unit that is active, has comms resources, and is willing to step up and represent Liao and guide our community through this middle period as we wait for CW.

[Anders]

Gentlemen:

Allow me to clarify some misinformation that is being bandied about in this thread. We here at the Word of Lowtax are rather burnt out by the stagnant gameplay at the current moment. VCRS has a final MWO episode currently in post-production. It will be released when it is ready.

It would seem, like many other veteran players, that we're all waiting for the launch of CW. Some are more hopeful than others, and really, it's now up to PGI to make good on CW before something (read: Star Citizen) captures the attention of the Word of Lowtax with greener pastures.

With respect to EVE-Online, let me assure you, that has nothing to do with participation in MWO.

We here at The Word of Lowtax thank you for your post. We here at the Word of Lowtax realize that you have limited entertainment destinations and appreciate that you're spending your entertainment electrons on us. Please continue to choose the Word of Lowtax in your future holiday destination spending! We are grateful for your out of the box, blue-sky thinking, and appreciate you touching base with us here at the Word of Lowtax. We hope to synergize our efforts to achieve quantifiable paradigm redefinitions in a future collaboration soon.

As always, I humbly remain:

Robotically Yours,
Anders

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[Texas Merc]

is her = metro?

[Egomane]

We've been over that at least a dozen times.

There will be no "leadership" so to speak, as the ConCap will be controlled by PGI, like all the other successor states. At least for the time being. There might be a time, later on, when that will change. It's on the table of PGI and they are thinking about it. But even that leadership will be limited.

If you fight for a house the Servers will decide for what world you will fight. You might have a limited choice, but you will not be able to make a coordinated push for New Avalon or Tharkad. Therefore any form of leadership right now is mood.

[Alecxei Wolf]

then why not have a ceremonial leadership, let capcon be controlled by a "war Council" of the regimental colonels, with a single genral recognised. i vote Tashi to be the said General, if anyone can find him. disband all the chacellors, and all the major leadership, seeing they are about all that remains of the original house liao, they've pretty much chased everyone else off. let us once again form under a flag where the only leader we recognise is one that is not represented by any one of us but is recognised as a body of our leaders. do we really need one group to stand up and form the new ruling body? let all who want to wear the flag of liao, wether they be goon or not come to one space and fight as one.

[Texas Merc]

Who cares what the PGI led factions do, they can't really gain or lose too much territory anyway considering the way [PGI] is gonna lay out CW. Liao Merc Corps are the way to go and should be much more fun.

Also, LOL CW AND [PGI] planning anything out properly.

Edited by Egomane, 06 November 2013 - 06:30 AM.
CoC violation

[Karzer]

Stoneblade, on 03 November 2013 - 07:44 PM, said:

I think it would be best if we just would consolidate under 1 comm channel system, instead of three or four or random.

That was tried before. Didn't work out and the connection wasn't too great with 100+ channels.

In any case, I don't know who is leading or has the biggest amount of players, all I know is that we (1st-TR of TCAF) seem to be the only ones representing Capellan flag in leagues of any kind (with limited success I must admit).

[Xyroc]

Well actually the REAL Houses have no player based leadership.

[dal10]

Anders, on 04 November 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

Gentlemen:

Allow me to clarify some misinformation that is being bandied about in this thread. We here at the Word of Lowtax are rather burnt out by the stagnant gameplay at the current moment. VCRS has a final MWO episode currently in post-production. It will be released when it is ready.

It would seem, like many other veteran players, that we're all waiting for the launch of CW. Some are more hopeful than others, and really, it's now up to PGI to make good on CW before something (read: Star Citizen) captures the attention of the Word of Lowtax with greener pastures.

With respect to EVE-Online, let me assure you, that has nothing to do with participation in MWO.

We here at The Word of Lowtax thank you for your post. We here at the Word of Lowtax realize that you have limited entertainment destinations and appreciate that you're spending your entertainment electrons on us. Please continue to choose the Word of Lowtax in your future holiday destination spending! We are grateful for your out of the box, blue-sky thinking, and appreciate you touching base with us here at the Word of Lowtax. We hope to synergize our efforts to achieve quantifiable paradigm redefinitions in a future collaboration soon.

As always, I humbly remain:

Robotically Yours,
Anders

Public Relations Officer
Director of Man/Bird Relations
Loremaster of Word of Lowtax
Veteran of the First Round of the Run Hot or Die Funzies Tournament
A Draaaaaaagun Slayer, Victor over the "4 time crowned Champion from the day."
OpFor Veteran of Second Round of the Run Hot or Die Funzies Tournament
Survivor of the Great Market Collapse of September 18, 3049
Bro-Bots with Mech Romney, Member of the 53%
Commissioner of Entertainment Electrons
A [REDACTED] Asset
Oft Imitated, Never Duplicated
Crackin' Turtles since 3049
Master of the Trial of Walter
Marik Militia Masher
'Mechstradamus
Campaigning in the Inner Sphere for a better Capella
Survivor of the Festival of Artemis
Survivor of the Festival of Artemis 2: Electric Boogaloo
Survivor of the Festival of Artemis The Third: Lurmpocalypse Now
Survivor of the Festival of Artemis IV: Making a Bigger Problem to Fix Another
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Schedulepower > Firepower
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The Word of Lowtax: Pay to Win since 3049
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Squawking is not a Crime
Poptarts are a Sometimes Food
Currently in the Beta Test of the A.P.E.S. (Anders Post Evaluation System)
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so basically what i said minus the eve part. got it.

[NuclearPanda]

I nominate myself to lead Liao. Pandas are natural born leaders, and Asian, so I win.

[Literally]

Egomane, on 05 November 2013 - 05:19 AM, said:

We've been over that at least a dozen times.

There will be no "leadership" so to speak, as the ConCap will be controlled by PGI, like all the other successor states. At least for the time being. There might be a time, later on, when that will change. It's on the table of PGI and they are thinking about it. But even that leadership will be limited.

If you fight for a house the Servers will decide for what world you will fight. You might have a limited choice, but you will not be able to make a coordinated push for New Avalon or Tharkad. Therefore any form of leadership right now is mood.

Since PGI has set nothing in stone about CW, can we get a citation on all this? Are you posting and saying as a mod that you actually know something, or are you just speculating and repeating speculation?

Edited by Literally, 09 November 2013 - 10:56 AM.

[Egomane]

I'm repeating what I remember from various Dev posts.
Bits and pieces can be found and glued together in the AtD threads, the dev blogs and literally (no pun intended) all over the forums, twitter, NGNG and wherever else they release information.

As they are still designing the whole thing, everything can of course still change. But that the players will not control the factions at first has been repeated several times.

[Peiper]

Egomane, on 05 November 2013 - 05:19 AM, said:

We've been over that at least a dozen times.

If you fight for a house the Servers will decide for what world you will fight. You might have a limited choice, but you will not be able to make a coordinated push for New Avalon or Tharkad. Therefore any form of leadership right now is mood.

All of the house units I know of want an active, not passive role in community warfare. I believe you are right, that especially in the short term, that house units are going to be screwed with CW. The House Steiner Hub was created so that house units and associated merc corps could work together toward making House Steiner dominant in community warfare. It seems like a slap in the face by PGI to all the house units that have been working hard to recruit, train, and build up house units only to be treated like fodder by computer divvied contracts. While the Steiner HUB has never claimed that we are the be all and end all of House Steiner, we certainly have been hoping that we could have and ACTIVE role in CW. Many of these units have a LONG history (years) of fighting with other units in the community and look forward to rekindling the old rivalries and starting new ones. House units don't want to go merc, because they are and typically always have been house units. But they don't want to be passive either.

PGI said something about doing something for house units similar to what they're doing for merc. units, but only after the launch of CW. However, in doing so, they've yet again punched house units in the face, proving that they either don't understand the nature of their player base or just don't give a hoot. It's really rather tragic. Players have made dynamic, resource dependent working models of the inner sphere in the past that would allow for all sorts of scenarios in the inner sphere, but PGI wouldn't give them the credit for creating it. They elected to build it themselves, and what we have is going to be a watered down, tightly controlled inner sphere with very limited room for variation, creativity, and grand strategy - and it will take them/has taken them years to build the system and get it right. I wish they'd just used the system that was presented to them on a platinum platter. It's really very tragic.

I guess the one good thing about not having dynamic house units and command structure is that no one player will be able to tell any other player where to go and how to do it. Twitch gamers rejoice!

[William Radick]

Longwei Liao, on 06 November 2013 - 02:20 AM, said:

then why not have a ceremonial leadership, let capcon be controlled by a "war Council" of the regimental colonels, with a single genral recognised. i vote Tashi to be the said General, if anyone can find him. disband all the chacellors, and all the major leadership, seeing they are about all that remains of the original house liao, they've pretty much chased everyone else off. let us once again form under a flag where the only leader we recognise is one that is not represented by any one of us but is recognised as a body of our leaders. do we really need one group to stand up and form the new ruling body? let all who want to wear the flag of liao, wether they be goon or not come to one space and fight as one.

Don't want to derail Warcock's thread, and I appreciate what his trying to do. I really hope something good come from Liao once CW hits, for I know that's where a lot of us originated and had hope to support in the meta game universe deally.

Buuuttt If you want to drop with a lot of your old Liao buddies (including Tashi) you know where we are - and we miss ya'll !