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Fixed Catapult Geometry Has Broken The A1

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#1401 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 08:16 AM

View PostDamien Tokala, on 01 July 2015 - 08:09 AM, said:

You are piloting a mech that essentially has two houses on it, and you think that another inch or two is why I keep shooting them off?

I shoot them off because it's both tactical, and... Well... It's the size of a house...


Every little bit helps :)

#1402 Navid A1

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 08:21 AM

View PostDamien Tokala, on 01 July 2015 - 08:01 AM, said:

The only issue you have with the catapult is purely cosmetic...

Like, honestly...


Silence...!

Its ALL about cosmetics here. If cosmetics does not matter to you... please move along.!

Edited by Navid A1, 01 July 2015 - 08:21 AM.


#1403 Damien Tokala

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 08:24 AM

Oy vey... These people with their scrap metal timberwolf imitations

#1404 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 08:28 AM

View PostDamien Tokala, on 01 July 2015 - 08:24 AM, said:

Oy vey... These people with their scrap metal timberwolf imitations


Thank you for your contribution to the page count and for helping keep it on the first page so the issue is fresh in everyone's mind. Your help to the cause is appreciated :).

#1405 Damien Tokala

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 08:30 AM

Actually it is my intention. Catapult was the first mech I ever piloted, and I want to see it back the way it was in closed beta.

I'm just trying to provide some humorous commentary in the meantime.

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 08:37 AM

View PostDamien Tokala, on 01 July 2015 - 08:30 AM, said:

Actually it is my intention. Catapult was the first mech I ever piloted, and I want to see it back the way it was in closed beta.

I'm just trying to provide some humorous commentary in the meantime.


I think the bolt-on launchers are humorous enough.

"Sir, we have 15 missile tubes in each pod, and the Pilot wants to install 3xSRM4 on each pod. I'll just put them all in the main pod, then..."

"NEGATIVE!! You will only put one SRM4 in that pod, and you will bolt a pair of 4-tube launchers to the outside of the pod!"

"But, Sir, there is plenty of room inside for all of his launchers, and there is an armored door that is meant to protect-"

"SILENCE!! You will do as ordered! Bolt them on the outside. Now! I want him to lose those pods as quickly as possible!"

"Why, Sir?"

"Because! That's why!"

Edited by Prosperity Park, 01 July 2015 - 08:40 AM.


#1407 Damien Tokala

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 08:55 AM

I it is a logical argument, and to resolve it would require the internals to be exposed, because I believe there's some battletech rule that any weapon must be visible to make an accurate identification of what you're facing.

So... If we get what we want, the doors might have to go for SRM based builds

#1408 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 09:01 AM

View PostDamien Tokala, on 01 July 2015 - 08:55 AM, said:

I it is a logical argument, and to resolve it would require the internals to be exposed, because I believe there's some battletech rule that any weapon must be visible to make an accurate identification of what you're facing.

So... If we get what we want, the doors might have to go for SRM based builds


Honestly, I wouldn't have a problem if the doors went for SRMs, but stayed for LRMs. I don't know if that is realistic, but it is a nice thought.

#1409 Damien Tokala

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 09:19 AM

Variable pod sizes for lrms, but a module like box for srms?

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 09:23 AM

Not sure why "knowing" via visual identification is important in this case...

"It's a CPLT with LRMs! Kill it!"
"It's a CPLT with SRMs! Kill it!"
"It's a K2/Jester! Kill it!"
"It's a bad guy! Kill it!"

#1411 Damien Tokala

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 09:30 AM

Knowing, because sometimes you can't get weapons data due to a stupid ecm mech. So there's a difference between rushing an SRM boat, and rushing an lrm boat that has its minimum range missiles

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 09:51 AM

View PostDamien Tokala, on 01 July 2015 - 08:55 AM, said:

So... If we get what we want, the doors might have to go for SRM based builds


What happens with mixed loadouts?


View PostDamien Tokala, on 01 July 2015 - 09:19 AM, said:

Variable pod sizes for lrms, but a module like box for srms?


No. that would look bad ...

If we get dynamic sized ears you can identify quite well the weapons, or at least if the mech is a srm boat or a lrm boat.

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 10:00 AM

Well, a little unique feature in the form of missile bay doors that can hide surprise SRMs would certainly not lift the mech into unbalanced OMG OP realms. Actually, it needs any help it can get just to catch up to average, because frankly, it's pretty bad.

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 10:10 AM

View Postzagibu, on 01 July 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

Well, a little unique feature in the form of missile bay doors that can hide surprise SRMs would certainly not lift the mech into unbalanced OMG OP realms. Actually, it needs any help it can get just to catch up to average, because frankly, it's pretty bad.


that was kind of my thought as well, modular style pods seem to be the better choice, but any and all missile racks should fit within the pod unless you manage to cram on more than LRM40

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 02:14 AM

I wouldn't mind keeping the missile doors for SRMs if the doors opened faster. Doors for LRMs isn't as big of a deal, but that small delay in SRM firing can really throw you off. You can run with the doors open of course, but many times it is easy to forget to open them. Plus it might make the launchers easier to hit with the doors open.

It would be nice if the doors opened fast and there was no delay. The King Crab's claws open fast enough to not delay it's shots, the Catapult shouldn't get a missile delay with it's doors.

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 01:01 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 02 July 2015 - 02:14 AM, said:

I wouldn't mind keeping the missile doors for SRMs if the doors opened faster. Doors for LRMs isn't as big of a deal, but that small delay in SRM firing can really throw you off. You can run with the doors open of course, but many times it is easy to forget to open them. Plus it might make the launchers easier to hit with the doors open.

I don't think the doors have an own hitbox, but we should test it to make sure.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 01:28 PM

Now its your chance to make justice, participe in the glorious democracy and vote catapult for presid- I mean for rescaling.
http://mwomercs.com/...le-vote-part-1/

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 04:45 PM

our moment of long awaited justice is nigh at hand, continue our crusade for our goal has almost been achieved!

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 05:06 PM

And then we get trolled by the community when we get outvote for an up scaling.

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 02:22 AM

View PostXphR, on 04 July 2015 - 05:06 PM, said:

And then we get trolled by the community when we get outvote for an up scaling.

Or by pgi, and we get a minuscle catapult with giant ears.





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