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Fixed Catapult Geometry Has Broken The A1

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#1461 stjobe

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 08:17 AM

View PostMATRAKA14, on 20 August 2015 - 01:29 AM, said:

https://youtu.be/-Ii4NjRKm60?t=25m14s

"Fix" fear and hope all mixed in one terrible mix.

Also I can't understand what he says after fix the catapult.

Sounds like "give me a chance", and the other guy says "you've had your chance"...

#1462 Corrado

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 08:44 AM

View PostMalleus011, on 05 November 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

So I went and checked out the new Catapult upgrades. Proper Autocannon barrels on the K2's at last. Updated PPC barrels. Nice.

Unfortunately, they also 'fixed' the A1, and I mean fixed like you do to your pets. If you add extra missile launchers over the first, it adds extra missile launchers to the outside of the missile box. Use three LRM5s? Sorry, only 5 tubes fit under the armored cover. The rest make your arms wider and taller ... with extra external launchers. Three SRM4s? Same problem ... only 4 tubes fit under the cover. A 15 and two streaks? Yeah, couldn't fit those extra tubes under the cover either. Does the box get smaller if you mount a small main launcher? Hell no, it's just as huge for an LRM5 as an LRM15.

It's not a little, slim add-on launcher either. It makes the arms gigantic.

I mean, really now. The A1 was tough enough to pilot already; with all six hard points being M and clustered in each arm. But now to add oversize novelty 'ears' to an A1 that actually uses those hard points ... that's just mean.

It seems reasonable to me than 15-20 tubes should fit under the armored box cover. Why was this even messed with?


not only the A1. any catapult is broken. at least you can run A1 LRM. but you can't really play with a K2 or specially a short to mid range jester. no.

took out the MW4 catapult for a ride. tanks like 5 MWO catapults.

Edited by Corrado, 20 August 2015 - 08:44 AM.


#1463 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 09:11 AM

The MW4 Catapult is terribly designed in every way. The torso looks like a freaking door knob. So terrible.

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 09:58 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 20 August 2015 - 09:11 AM, said:

The MW4 Catapult is terribly designed in every way. The torso looks like a freaking door knob. So terrible.


door knob on scrawny chicken legs. Hate how the nose cuts sharply upwards before the 'pelvis' as well.

Edited by LordBraxton, 20 August 2015 - 09:58 AM.


#1465 Powder Puff Pew Pew

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:07 AM

I have every catapult there is, it was my starter mech, and I loved this mech. But now the mech is terribad in the cosmetic dept. I'm severely disappointed in PGI "ONCE AGAIN" as if that is new to any1. I'm sure we can all relate. I understand they cant please everyone, but this is 1 fix they made that simply must go. With the size of missle tubes they are designing for clan, and other IS mechs the cata can more then enough fit 40 LRM tubes in 1 arm pod without putting external giomitry onto pods. I can understand something like this being the case with a x6 20 LRM set up for a 120 LRM build but not for a 80 LRM build and not even a 40.

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 08:21 PM

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#1467 DEN_Ninja

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 10:26 AM

Even with the rescale coming along they do need to dearly address Weapon Geometry.

I swear if we see the K2 with the Stub PPC's or the VCR boxes on the rescale Catapult I will be very sad.

Anyways Catapult Rescale Soon™

#1468 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 10:28 AM

Soon....*crosses fingers*

#1469 MATRAKA14

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 03:10 PM

View PostDEN_Ninja, on 26 August 2015 - 10:26 AM, said:

Even with the rescale coming along they do need to dearly address Weapon Geometry.

I swear if we see the K2 with the Stub PPC's or the VCR boxes on the rescale Catapult I will be very sad.

Anyways Catapult Rescale Soon™


It would be quite disappointing.

At least if they keep the current size of the ppcs and rescale enough the mech it will look more like the original one.

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 01:13 PM

View PostMATRAKA14, on 26 August 2015 - 03:10 PM, said:


It would be quite disappointing.

At least if they keep the current size of the ppcs and rescale enough the mech it will look more like the original one.
that would be ideal IMO, the cat would be much better that way.

Edited by zudukai, 27 August 2015 - 01:13 PM.


#1471 Praehotec8

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 01:21 PM

View PostMATRAKA14, on 26 August 2015 - 03:10 PM, said:


It would be quite disappointing.

At least if they keep the current size of the ppcs and rescale enough the mech it will look more like the original one.


The VCRs need to go! period!

#1472 stjobe

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 01:22 PM

View PostPraehotec8, on 27 August 2015 - 01:21 PM, said:


The VCRs need to go! period!

I believe that is the plan, yes. IIRC they said something about trying to "fit all the launchers in the pods".

Edit: Yeah, here it is, on twitter (of course):

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Yes I am going to have it done - we are also going to rework the Catapult ear dynamic hard points to fit in the ears.

Edited by stjobe, 27 August 2015 - 02:36 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2015 - 01:34 PM

View Poststjobe, on 27 August 2015 - 01:22 PM, said:

I believe that is the plan, yes. IIRC they said something about trying to "fit all the launchers in the pods".


I hope so. If they do fix them, I will finally be able to refit my cats and bring them back out onto the field.

#1474 Soldier91

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 01:51 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 14 July 2015 - 04:05 AM, said:

Don't forget to vote Catapult for rescale.

Although this won't address the Catapult A1's arms, it does help address the Catapult's size in general.

Vote here:
http://mwomercs.com/...le-vote-part-2/

But my catabrick k2 is so tall I can put ER LL's on the arm's and shoot from behind ridiculously high terrain.
It's a very nice advantage I never seen another mech do that.
I mean it's the size of a king crab in game if you zoom out with f3 but it's really not that bad of a mech chasis.

Edited by Soldier91, 27 August 2015 - 02:22 PM.


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Posted 02 September 2015 - 10:38 AM

View PostSoldier91, on 27 August 2015 - 01:51 PM, said:

But my catabrick k2 is so tall I can put ER LL's on the arm's and shoot from behind ridiculously high terrain.
It's a very nice advantage I never seen another mech do that.
I mean it's the size of a king crab in game if you zoom out with f3 but it's really not that bad of a mech chasis.


Well, an Ebon Jaguar can snipe like that too :).

Really the Catapult is a bit too chunky more than anything. It's front surface area and maybe even it's total volume looks the same as a Stalker :/. Speaking of Ebon Jaguar, I think the Catapult needs to be closer to that in size and frontal surface area.

Anyway, it is just one of many ailments the Catapult suffers from. Lime this thread points out, the VCRs are one of the biggest culprits (literally and figuratively).

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Posted 09 September 2015 - 02:14 AM

Only 2 moths until catapult day.

God save the catapult!

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Posted 09 September 2015 - 02:16 AM

Here...HERE!

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Posted 09 September 2015 - 02:33 AM

Yes, hoping for stealth Catapult love on 9/22, while knowing that the chance of it is zero.

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Posted 09 September 2015 - 06:06 AM

View PostChados, on 09 September 2015 - 02:33 AM, said:

Yes, hoping for stealth Catapult love on 9/22, while knowing that the chance of it is zero.


catapult was one of the 5 mechs (catapult, awesome, quickdraw, nova, kit fox) who won the poll to be rescaled (may be even some of the models will be changed), it will be somehow in the end of this year

the poll was pretty heated btw, kit fox fought with centurion for 5th place and, as a result. kit fox and centurion fans almost disqualified quickdraw which was then saved by people who changed their votes from centurion to quickdraw, eventually kit fox even got 4th place, quickdraw 5th and centurion was disqualified

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Posted 09 September 2015 - 06:50 AM

Hoping for a Catapult requirkening. Then I can take out the C1 again without shame. (Note the sig as it's been since Closed Beta).

-k





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