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Poll: Which is the lightest chassis you use? (107 member(s) have cast votes)

Which is the lightest chassis you use? (on a regular basis not including 'fun builds')

  1. 20 (24 votes [22.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.43%

  2. 25 (9 votes [8.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.41%

  3. 30 (9 votes [8.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.41%

  4. 35 (23 votes [21.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.50%

  5. 40 (6 votes [5.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.61%

  6. 45 (4 votes [3.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.74%

  7. 50 (14 votes [13.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.08%

  8. 55 (8 votes [7.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.48%

  9. 60 (1 votes [0.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.93%

  10. 65 (5 votes [4.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.67%

  11. 70 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  12. 75 (1 votes [0.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.93%

  13. 80 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  14. 85 (1 votes [0.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.93%

  15. 90 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  16. 100 (2 votes [1.87%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.87%

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#21 Deathlike

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 01:01 PM

Well RIP/DOA Flea if the FLE-14 isn't in consideration at all.

#22 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 01:26 PM

View Poststjobe, on 06 November 2013 - 07:58 AM, said:

FLE-17 is the canonical version, with 5 energy hard points.
FLE-15 is possible, with 5 energy and 2 ballistic hard points.
FLE-4 is also possible, with 4 energy hard points + MASC

Otherwise, the 4 and 17 are no different....

#23 Red squirrel

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 02:22 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 07 November 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

Well RIP/DOA Flea if the FLE-14 isn't in consideration at all.


The FLE-14 is actually a 15ton mech.
I would rather drop without a mech in one of those nanosuits (it's the cryengine after all ;) )

#24 MonkeyCheese

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 03:06 PM

View PostRed squirrel, on 07 November 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:


The FLE-14 is actually a 15ton mech.
I would rather drop without a mech in one of those nanosuits (it's the cryengine after all ;) )


Sounds like a lovely challenge to keep me interested, FLE-14 plz

#25 Deathlike

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 03:20 PM

View PostRed squirrel, on 07 November 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

The FLE-14 is actually a 15ton mech.
I would rather drop without a mech in one of those nanosuits (it's the cryengine after all ;) )


JJs on a 20 ton (or even 15 ton) mech has potential. Just not with the current speed cap.

#26 Red squirrel

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 01:47 PM

So far:

~ 10% do not pilot meds or lights
~ 40% do not pilot lights
~ 25% actually use the Locust seriously .... mhh cannot believe this ....

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 02:40 PM

I'm piloting a Locust mainly because it came with my Phoenix pack and I want to justify the expenditure. I'm actually surprised that I don't get instantly legged considering that every gun dips down as soon as I make an appearance (one of those "really?" moments) the real funny bit is it would probably be faster shooting me through a ST. The Locust practically legs itself due to wonky physics at high speeds and brushing up against teammates.
Still I managed to get 300 damage once with a LCT-1V 4xMG 1xMPL. A dedicated 20 ton pilot can contribute, it takes tons of skill and willingness to do bold (even crazy) maneuvers. You get points mainly by spotting for LRMS and getting assists. I did technically kill a fresh Battlemaster in 2 minutes because he insta-killed me with a 7xppc alpha (derp) and melted while in shutdown (that's a 65 ton difference!).

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 03:20 PM

View PostSporklift, on 09 November 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

I'm piloting a Locust mainly because it came with my Phoenix pack and I want to justify the expenditure. I'm actually surprised that I don't get instantly legged considering that every gun dips down as soon as I make an appearance (one of those "really?" moments) the real funny bit is it would probably be faster shooting me through a ST. The Locust practically legs itself due to wonky physics at high speeds and brushing up against teammates.
Still I managed to get 300 damage once with a LCT-1V 4xMG 1xMPL. A dedicated 20 ton pilot can contribute, it takes tons of skill and willingness to do bold (even crazy) maneuvers. You get points mainly by spotting for LRMS and getting assists. I did technically kill a fresh Battlemaster in 2 minutes because he insta-killed me with a 7xppc alpha (derp) and melted while in shutdown (that's a 65 ton difference!).


Nice anecdote about thae Battlemaster.
My best Locust move was to lure an Assault mech into the Out of Bounds Area :)

And as you I feel like: Now that I bought them I will master them. But still I did not vote 20t as I will surely never use a Locust out of love.

#29 Red squirrel

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:43 AM

It has taken much longer than I expected, but finally we have one Atlas only pilot in the poll.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:01 AM

View PostRed squirrel, on 09 November 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

So far:

~ 10% do not pilot meds or lights
~ 40% do not pilot lights
~ 25% actually use the Locust seriously .... mhh cannot believe this ....


Give it another month and the Locusts will be mostly gone until tonnage limits come. That's why I voted 25 (love my TDK and 2D COMs)

As some have at least implied above, I can't even see why PGI would bother releasing the Flea now that we've seen what junk the Locust is

Edited by Terciel1976, 11 November 2013 - 11:02 AM.


#31 Shadey99

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:07 PM

Some pilots will continue to pilot Locusts... Either because we are insane, we want a challenge, It just fits for us, or we are nostalgic.

It's really fun watching the QQ when the last one standing is a Locust.

#32 Deathlike

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:13 PM

View PostShadey99, on 11 November 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

Some pilots will continue to pilot Locusts... Either because we are insane, we want a challenge, It just fits for us, or we are nostalgic.

It's really fun watching the QQ when the last one standing is a Locust.


TBH, I've not seen that happen.

Virtually every single match I look for LCV on the match screen, it is almost always followed with "DEAD" next to the mech.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:28 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 11 November 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:


TBH, I've not seen that happen.

Virtually every single match I look for LCV on the match screen, it is almost always followed with "DEAD" next to the mech.


I've been last man standing with my 3M and I cap won against an entire enemy team in my 1V just an hour ago. So it does happen, of course those that think it should not... Well they QQ in droves.

#34 MonkeyCheese

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:45 PM

View PostShadey99, on 11 November 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

Some pilots will continue to pilot Locusts... Either because we are insane, we want a challenge, It just fits for us, or we are nostalgic.

It's really fun watching the QQ when the last one standing is a Locust.

View PostDeathlike, on 11 November 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:


TBH, I've not seen that happen.

Virtually every single match I look for LCV on the match screen, it is almost always followed with "DEAD" next to the mech.



I know I still will, well at least the non mg variants.

Thanks to lack of cap/scout rewards locust grinding is slow (but <3 to the new UAV) so I haven't been driving just locusts in the last few weeks as I have been doing the following less painful grinds

grinding a c4 cat to basics
mastering a k2 cat
mastering a 1n dragon
elite/mastering c9D and wang cents

I have gotten the 3m and 3s locusts to speed tweak and I am having fun with them, just like the deaths knell they are a hell of a crazy suicidal ride and perfect platforms for sneaking in the strike and UAV modules.

Sure they are very pilot skill and map dependent (shudders at those open alpine plains in a locust) the certainly are not the worst mechs to have on a team. Again the pilot skill and even mech tree progression are important variables but I would rather see a locust (not in numbers T_T ) than a 5v spider or a 3c cicada on my team.

Until we see ballistics between the MG and AC2 the 5v, 3c and 1v are still in my eyes worse than the 3m and 3s locusts.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 04:05 PM

I recently bought a DK, and I'm enjoying it more than I thought I would. Feels a lot more durable than a Locust. So I'd say my low would be 25T.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 04:51 PM

I usually stay above 50 tons but that is because I like brawling mechs or fire support. Not to say I don't have some light mechs because I do have locust and jenners, but I prefer to play heavies out of everything. There I feel I get a good all around feeling of weapons and speed.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 05:01 PM

The lightest mech I use right now is a Hunchback.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 07:18 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 11 November 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:


TBH, I've not seen that happen.

Virtually every single match I look for LCV on the match screen, it is almost always followed with "DEAD" next to the mech.

I can vouch for that myself. funny thing, i was in a match on my own and it was all down to me and the locust. The other team had 2 locusts with the rest of the team dead, we both finished off them then my locust wing died leaving me and mah jenner all alone. Oh well

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 03:18 PM

Current poll breakdown:

Smallest/lightest mech

3% Assault
8% Heavy
30% Medium
37% above 20t light
22% Locust

Average minimum weight: 40t

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 04:59 PM

The Jenners are by far my most played mech. My craziest and most fun drops have been in it. My best run ever, I got three kills, six assists and three spots I think. (didnt say I was great but for me that was great :( )

I have the Phoenix Locust pack, I have only dropped in a Locust once, and got vaporized without even firing a single shot, let alone doing damage :) I have thought about selling them but I probably wont. Might try them seriously someday.

The other mechs I drive a lot are a Cat K2 with a pair of gauss rifles, a Hunchback (P?) the one with like 8 or 9 ml's, and then my Atlas DC which I think is still stock other than adding ecm and artemis.

Main goal for now is mastering Jenners, then I'll pick another to focus on. I think I lean toward the Atlas next for a totally different play style, but I have also thought it would be fun to specialize in lights. I love the craziness of running around like an ***** dodging nukes and trying to back-shoot big mechs. I change my mind all the time but I AM sure I love Jenners.

Edited by mikkros, 12 November 2013 - 05:25 PM.






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