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[RightHook]

Thanks for the UAV credits and XP. I love them, finally grinding in a light is way less painful as I can use my lights in a scouting role and get some decent payback for them. The only issue I have is with the cost of the UAVs. AT 40,000 c-bills a pop and at best I can get 8,000 - 9,000 in bonus c-bills if I drop that thing right in the middle of 7 or 8 mechs, it's a losing deal. Is it possible to have the UAV's cost a little less? Especially since I spent the general exp to upgrade to the better model? The same thing works with the ART strike. It will do about 90 damage to a single mech if I hit it perfect, close to 200 if I get a crowd. But that is still really expensive. Since I only get about 5k for the damage bonus. Either way I really like the ART strike blast! Makes using them even more fun. Thanks again.

[Deathlike]

The UAV detection rewards simply need to double the rewards the C-bills side of things.

Every mech detected (5 secs) = 500 C-bills
Proposed change = 1000 C-bills per mech detected

So, for C-bills, 1000 * 12 (mechs max) = 12000 C-Bills, max (with the default 25000 C-bills in winnings). That should be enough to justify it.

As currently constituted, it's not enough... unless LRMs are in use, which is a gamble in itself.

[Bront]

The UAV XP/CBill earnings I don't think are supposed to be enough to make up for the cost, as you still get some benefit.

Don't expect to be buying consumables to make more money. Honestly, I think it would change the game negitively if they did.

[Deathlike]

Bront, on 06 November 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

The UAV XP/CBill earnings I don't think are supposed to be enough to make up for the cost, as you still get some benefit.

Don't expect to be buying consumables to make more money. Honestly, I think it would change the game negitively if they did.

It's not really worth it as is in a regular match. You only need enough to justify using it in a loss. You're mistaking it to be a profitmaker which I don't see it being at all (and it hasn't been since its debut). It eats into the rewards so much so that it isn't used often enough in a regular match. Only 12-mans gets more use out of this due to its limited benefits.

[MonkeyCheese]

It gives out more exp for harder to grind mechs like the locust or 5v spider if you pop it in a good place, im fine with that.

[NuclearPanda]

Consumables should never be a money maker. That being said, I feel it the rewards should be increased.

Same thing for Artillery. Give bonuses for actually hitting mechs with the shells.

[RightHook]

Don't think they need to be a money maker. But they shouldn't wipe out my entire earnings either. if I play both an art strike and a uav, which it what I think a "scout" mech's role should be, it cost 80k. The payback for using them is only about 10k - 12k. That's a 70k loss. It wipes out any thing else I might earn during the match. If the cost of the two enhanced versions was 20k -25k, that would reduce my loss to only about 40k. That would be sustainable. Remember also that these are best case deployments. Miss with either (which I do often) and you earnings are around 1k. I don't think with a typical deployment that they need to be money makers, (though a perfect deployment should net you some gain), but I think leveling out the typical loss would be fair.

[Corvus Antaka]

I'd like to see LRM lock - on times decreased when UAV is up on an ECM mech. given the uav short duration the locks on ecm mechs take to long to get right now. 100% lock-on time bonus for the missile mechs would be nice.

[Bilaz]

i like new uav bonuses. And i like uav as its a good counter to ecm AND good tool for communicating intel.
What i hate about it - is *bad* interface. every time i use uav, i have to open mech lab, modules, right folder, scroll it down, double click on right stuff, then click "Yes, i want to buy", then click save and then "yes i'm sure". Then wait 5-15 seconds while changes travel to server and back. Why do you people hate me so much? What make things worse - i often forget that i have to buy new one just after i hit ready button, which i cant stop. I know that ui2.0 is promised, but how can i trust you with making it right if 1.0 is so bad?

As for cost vs reward - well i think of it as an exchange of c-bills (+ skill) for exp. A bad one at that, since surv. kills almost always bring me more bills and exp (which is strange - since i rarely do any real damage). But still one uav do a lot towards winning in a match even if no missile boats are present, so in my opinion its worth it.