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[Sable Dove]

Pros:
2AMS
Largest engine available for Catapults. (That's going to set you back an extra 5.8 million CBills)
Jumpjets. (But only 2)

Cons:
Abysmal twist/pitch (lowest of any Catapult in all regards)
All energy hardpoints in a ballistic-heavy meta.
Looks absolutely terrible.
Two hardpoints of 6 are in the CT.


So what can it do? Missile-defense? Locust can do it just as well for less than a third the tonnage.
Large energy weapon boat? Going to be way too hot, and because of the CT points, it really can't do much that the K2 can't.

My prediction: Dual ERPPC poptart. There's pretty much nothing else it would be good at that another Cat wouldn't be better at. And even then, since it only gets 2 jumpjets instead of 4, the C1 is arguably better for this too.

I might have been willing to actually buy a hero mech if were a Catapult, but not if it's this horrendous.


Someone have any idea as to what it would be good for other than the 30% CBill bonus?

[Greyboots]

Sable Dove, on 05 November 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

Pros:
2AMS
Largest engine available for Catapults. (That's going to set you back an extra 5.8 million CBills)
Jumpjets. (But only 2)

Cons:
Abysmal twist/pitch (lowest of any Catapult in all regards)
All energy hardpoints in a ballistic-heavy meta.
Looks absolutely terrible.
Two hardpoints of 6 are in the CT.


So what can it do? Missile-defense? Locust can do it just as well for less than a third the tonnage.
Large energy weapon boat? Going to be way too hot, and because of the CT points, it really can't do much that the K2 can't.

My prediction: Dual ERPPC poptart. There's pretty much nothing else it would be good at that another Cat wouldn't be better at. And even then, since it only gets 2 jumpjets instead of 4, the C1 is arguably better for this too.

I might have been willing to actually buy a hero mech if were a Catapult, but not if it's this horrendous.


Someone have any idea as to what it would be good for other than the 30% CBill bonus?

The only problem with the mech (apart from being horrendously ugly) is that ballistic and missile weapons currently rule MWO. Otherwise it would be fine.

[Asmosis]

eh i was more taken back by the fact it can only mount two jumpjets, that gives it pretty poor jump capability. can it even get up the hillsides in a single jump on canyon map? or does that take two hops.

aside from that K2 has a superior weapon loadout with the ballistics mixed in.

[Kataiser]

I think that it's very niche. It has a very comfortable tonnage for that dual AMS, a top speed of near 100, and enough punch to make smaller 'Mechs back off. It's strictly a support 'Mech designed to assist bigger, badder friendlies get close enough to wreak havoc. It isn't nearly as squishy as a Locust, but it has significantly more mobility than a Stalker or an Atlas, and I think that the middle ground between those two is what its niche is.

[Werewolf486 ScorpS]

One mans garbage maybe another mans gold. You hate it, someone else may love it. I'm thinking 2 large lasers, 4 Medium lasers, 2 AMS, JJ''s and the biggest engine, with max armor to run and gun Medium class mechs.

Edited by Werewolf486, 05 November 2013 - 05:03 PM.

[ShinVector]

Sable Dove, on 05 November 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

Pros:
2AMS
Largest engine available for Catapults. (That's going to set you back an extra 5.8 million CBills)
Jumpjets. (But only 2)

Cons:
Abysmal twist/pitch (lowest of any Catapult in all regards)
All energy hardpoints in a ballistic-heavy meta.
Looks absolutely terrible.
Two hardpoints of 6 are in the CT.


So what can it do? Missile-defense? Locust can do it just as well for less than a third the tonnage.
Large energy weapon boat? Going to be way too hot, and because of the CT points, it really can't do much that the K2 can't.

My prediction: Dual ERPPC poptart. There's pretty much nothing else it would be good at that another Cat wouldn't be better at. And even then, since it only gets 2 jumpjets instead of 4, the C1 is arguably better for this too.

I might have been willing to actually buy a hero mech if were a Catapult, but not if it's this horrendous.


Someone have any idea as to what it would be good for other than the 30% CBill bonus?

I think you missed PGI's Joke..... Jester !
Edit: They should have saved this one for April 1st.

Edited by ShinVector, 05 November 2013 - 07:34 PM.

[RavenGenesis]

name me a hero mech that is statistically superior in all aspects compared to other chassis? there isn't one

hero mechs are just a unique chassis with the biggest bonus of 30% cbills, if you add all the FOTM hard points or 12/12 jjs to make it "different", then everyone will cry P2W

the fact that most hero mechs are mediocre is to keep people from crying like a 3 yr old since they can't afford one

[Lord Perversor]

RavenGenesis, on 05 November 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

name me a hero mech that is statistically superior in all aspects compared to other chassis? there isn't one

hero mechs are just a unique chassis with the biggest bonus of 30% cbills, if you add all the FOTM hard points or 12/12 jjs to make it "different", then everyone will cry P2W

the fact that most hero mechs are mediocre is to keep people from crying like a 3 yr old since they can't afford one

To an extent quite true.. if ppl want to do similar things then just buy a ******* Quickdraw 5K, wich pretty much offer the same by just 5x tons less.

I was expecting something different in the Jester, it can perform good, but it's not something people *need* right now, unless they are diehard fans of a particular chassis.

Me as example, i do not dislike it it's just the only thing that really moves me to even consider buy it someday it's the looks and shape (i prefer non-humanoid shaped mechs) not because it opens a whole different playstyle.

[30ft SMURF]

Thanks again for another useless mech PGI... One we can pay real life money for... Thanks again!

You want something interesting... Put jump jets on a K2 and call it a day. As for more **** we can pay for while you drivle out craptastic patches like this one... Thanks again for not only wasting our time but trying to convince us to waste our money too... I almost caved in and bought a few mech bays the other day... Luckily I've held out. Keep tryin' to feed us this ******** and I'm guessing the game will never get off the ground... cause it didn't at launch and I'm about to stop holding my breath.

[Omar Ravenhurst]

They put in a mech with more hard points and people scream it's pay to win. They put in a mech that isn't significantly better than an existing mech and it's a waste of your time. If you don't want the mech, then don't buy the mech. There are more than 80 different mechs out there and you can set each one up in dozens of ways. Don't they have better things to be working on than your specific desires in a mech?

To me, it's a jumping 65ton mech that can mount a 350. I'm not sure I see a dramatic advantage in that other than as a poptart, but, so what? Someone else will think that's exactly the mech they want to pilot.

As for it being ugly, you ever see a "pretty" jester?

Look, if you're going to complain, do it about something that matters: hit detection, lack of cw, limited map selection, disconnects, horrible match making, and all the other things that actually harm gameplay.

[Corvus Antaka]

too expensive.

looks great otherwise.

[ShinVector]

RavenGenesis, on 05 November 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

name me a hero mech that is statistically superior in all aspects compared to other chassis? there isn't one

hero mechs are just a unique chassis with the biggest bonus of 30% cbills, if you add all the FOTM hard points or 12/12 jjs to make it "different", then everyone will cry P2W

the fact that most hero mechs are mediocre is to keep people from crying like a 3 yr old since they can't afford one

The Firebrand is the most or maybe 'was' the most powerful Jager.
Something like this used to be a very powerful build simply because no other Jager could put both ballistics and energy weapons in the arms.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...649430b1fafa069

Edited by ShinVector, 05 November 2013 - 11:39 PM.

[MonkeyCheese]

Why are people crying, don't like it don't buy it, this isn't helpful feedback in any way...

/end thread

[Spheroid]

RavenGenesis, on 05 November 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

name me a hero mech that is statistically superior in all aspects compared to other chassis? there isn't one

hero mechs are just a unique chassis with the biggest bonus of 30% cbills, if you add all the FOTM hard points or 12/12 jjs to make it "different", then everyone will cry P2W

the fact that most hero mechs are mediocre is to keep people from crying like a 3 yr old since they can't afford one

The Hero Phract makes a good case for best variant. Both the Quickdraw and Thunderbolt have better hardpoint placement for energy poptarting so the 3D is not that compelling really.

[Modo44]

MonkeyCheese, on 05 November 2013 - 11:50 PM, said:

Why are people crying, don't like it don't buy it, this isn't helpful feedback in any way...

People wanted (the dumber ones even expected) a straight upgrade over the K2. This obviously could not happen without creating a pay to win mech, so now they need to vent somewhere.

[30ft SMURF]

I havn't bought any hero mechs... I accidentally got roped into the founders package. My primary concern is that they keep feeding us **** to buy, but don't actually improve the game, create weapon balance or even add something worth buying... as far as helpful feedback goes. I'm an unhappy customer who would like to continue being a customer, but might be driven away by the ****** ideas that keep getting pushed every other patch instead of real advancement of the game. Hell at this point even a pay to win mech would be an improvement over the ******** they keep feeding us. Though feel free to defend them I'm just not drinking the coolaid anymore and will likely continue to ***** about the mechs they keep trying to sell us. We don't need another chasis we need a game that works, but that might not be what people care about in this thread. Whatever.

[Mazgazine1]

Ballistic heavy 'meta' riiiiight..

Lasers tend to be the damage maker for me and the ballistics the finisher.. so not sure what your getting at??

[Ari Dian]

Hero mechs are not "better" than any other mech. They are different with different stats. If they would be better they are P2W, and no one want this.

If you dont like the hardpoints of the mech, dont buy it. No one force you to do it.
i for myself like it. 96 kph; 6 ML; 2 AMS; Jump jets; 23 DHS; max armor.
And i have already 3 Catapult on master. So its easier for me to get this single mech on master compared to 3 Quickdraw mechs (for these that say the Quickdraw is better).

[Karazyr]

2 erppc? your being to conservative stick 6 of them in it!

or load it up with med pulse lasers
or large
or small lasers!

that's the beauty of mwo mechs you can make whatever you like ( with a limited selection of weapons)

you may not like this mech but i know others will.

[NvSylvenau]

Ja, hardpoints ain't that nice.. but Heath Ledger (*rip*) would have loved it for its camouflage. Therefore:

Edited by NvSylvenau, 06 November 2013 - 02:53 AM.