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[JSparrowist]

The title says it.

They're not OP.

They're not UP.

But they are just a smidge to strong when compared to lasers. I believe they could use a SLIGHT increase in cool down to help bring them to a balanced state.

That is all, PGI. Thanks for...listening!

[FupDup]

The funny thing about this whole AC debate is that ACs have not been buffed in a long time, in fact the most recent change was a slight UAC/5 nerf (reduced RoF to 1.5, jam rate up to 20%). The reason ACs "appear" to shine more than they used to is because their primary competition--the almighty PPCs and Gauss--have been swiftly smitten with the bat of nerfing. The ACs themselves did not actually change. <---- TAKE NOTES PEOPLE THAT POINT IS IMPORTANT

In the long run, a better solution that nerfing the ACs would probably be to modify our heat system. Slow dissipation and high capacity make energy weapons not very good beyond backup weapons or high-alpha burst damage that requires large timeout periods in between. With fast cooling and a low capacity, energy weapons would have much greater endurance in battle, and would be able to keep up with ACs much better.

Edited by FupDup, 14 November 2013 - 07:11 PM.

[GalaxyBluestar]

heat management been made harder for some equipment and loadouts is one thing but others like me also have to put up with hit reg going to pot. so faster cooldown weapons with little heat bypasses these problems. just like ssrms bypassed light lagers like ecm bypassed lockon weapons and so on and so on.

lag and latency of a poor netcode has been one of the founding drivers of every meta... don't forget it and screw up weapon balancing with even more arbitary buffs and nerffs. we don't need them.

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 14 November 2013 - 07:18 PM.

[Khobai]

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The funny thing about this whole AC debate is that ACs have not been buffed in a long time,

No but ghost heat nerfed everything else.

its completely stupid that you can have three UAC/5s but you cant even have three large lasers without a penalty.

[akpavker]

well **** me can we get a few more posts going on balistics???

here are some other posts about the same **** that you could posted on instead of making a new one!

http://mwomercs.com/...al-ac20-jagers/
http://mwomercs.com/...t-fire-weapons/
http://mwomercs.com/...re-so-powerful/
http://mwomercs.com/...80#entry2919700

these were just on the front page im sure there are more on other pages aswell.

[FupDup]

Khobai, on 14 November 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

No but ghost heat nerfed everything else.

its completely stupid that you can have three UAC/5s but you cant even have three large lasers without a penalty.

I'm well aware of the negative consequences of everybody's favorite game mechanic.

[Corvus Antaka]

Khobai, on 14 November 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

No but ghost heat nerfed everything else.

its completely stupid that you can have three UAC/5s but you cant even have three large lasers without a penalty.

yes indeed. Hopefully triple uac/5 will get a ghost heat adjustment soon

[Charons Little Helper]

ACs aren't OP - but they are a bit on the high end of the spectrum for heavier mechs.

My suggestion is simple - take ammo back to standard values.

This does two things.

1. In effect - all AC weapons weigh a ton or two more and take up 1-2 more slots.

2. It makes it riskier to take AC weapons due to ammo explosions. If you take 3-4 tons currently, you can stick it all in your legs. The change would make it so that you'd have to start putting ammo in places where it's more likely to get hit and explode.

[Sandpit]

akpavker, on 14 November 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

well **** me can we get a few more posts going on balistics???

here are some other posts about the same **** that you could posted on instead of making a new one!

http://mwomercs.com/...al-ac20-jagers/
http://mwomercs.com/...t-fire-weapons/
http://mwomercs.com/...re-so-powerful/
http://mwomercs.com/...80#entry2919700

these were just on the front page im sure there are more on other pages aswell.

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[OneEyed Jack]

akpavker, on 14 November 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

well **** me can we get a few more posts going on balistics???

here are some other posts about the same **** that you could posted on instead of making a new one!

http://mwomercs.com/...al-ac20-jagers/
http://mwomercs.com/...t-fire-weapons/
http://mwomercs.com/...re-so-powerful/
http://mwomercs.com/...80#entry2919700

these were just on the front page im sure there are more on other pages aswell.

Sandpit, on 15 November 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

this

Is your shoulder still hurting from when your arm was twisted to force you to read?

[Sandpit]

OneEyed Jack, on 15 November 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

Is your shoulder still hurting from when your arm was twisted to force you to read?

No, my head still hurts from having to weed through 10 threads on the exact same subject because people think their "new" idea is special enough to ignore the CoC and post duplicate threads.

[GalaxyBluestar]

Sandpit, on 15 November 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

No, my head still hurts from having to weed through 10 threads on the exact same subject because people think their "new" idea is special enough to ignore the CoC and post duplicate threads.

you should become a mod and clean them up then. that's what used to happen or an amalgamation of two threads. wonder why it doesn't so much these days?

[Roadbeer]

GalaxyBluestar, on 15 November 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

you should become a mod and clean them up then. that's what used to happen or an amalgamation of two threads. wonder why it doesn't so much these days?

It does... but then you get the QQ about Goodwin's Law MODs stifling THEIR voice because their thread was MUCH more important than the other one, and merged threads are just too hard to follow.

[NRP]

How about instead of slightly nerfing ACs, we slightly buff energy weapons?

[Sandpit]

Do you not see what I'm talking about?

[Roadbeer]

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