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[Shadey99]

Well it is that time again... I've nearly mastered my Shadowhawks, Thunderbolts, and Battlemasters... So I need something new to play around with... The poll includes the ones I'm currently looking at. I'm thinking about the Jenner, Black Jack, Hunchback, and Victor.

At the moment I have Locusts (Mastered), Spiders (Mastered), Cicadas (Mastered), Shadowhawks, Catapults (Mastered), Jager Mechs (Mastered), Thunderbolts, Battlemasters, and Highlanders (Mastered).

So which do you guys suggest?

Edited by Shadey99, 14 November 2013 - 02:18 PM.

[Diego Angelus]

I say go hunch very fun mech and can take a lot of damage. I use 4h(3ML,AC20,),4p(4ML,2ERLL) and 4sp(5ML,2SRM6+Artemis) all with STD 250 engine and I love them all. Black Jack is is also fun I'm buying those atm.

[DONTOR]

The Victor is so incredibly well rounded that you just cant go wrong plus its an amazing ballistic boat. Use JJs and a big XL engine and you will roll damage for days. Each variant has enegy and ballistics in the arms which makes it very accurate, and all victors have Missle weapons in the left torso( 2-3) for each one.

[Rhaythe]

I'm glad to see the medium mechs well-represented on this list. Especially those two. Made me happy.

[Bishop Steiner]

Wow. Tough choice for me.

Out of those, the HBK-4G is my favorite single model.

That said, the VTR chassis overall in all 4 versions is just one of the best mechs in the game, bar none. There are two things it doesn't do well: Scout and Tank. It is the best flanker/Scrapper in the Assault/Heavy bracket, because it can carry the firepower of an Atlas, but has the Mobility of a Cataphract 3D, whilst carrying notably more armor than any heavy, and it's giant Centy arms allow it to tank damage surprisingly well, making it ideal for XL engines.

Twist and shout, and it does amazing things. The biggest mistakes I regularly see people do on the chassis are 1) Neglect the BFG, 2) Over or Under Engine it 3) Remove the JJs (max them out FFS) or try to LRM boat with them.

The VTR is a mobile infighter, than needs a high alpha to survive. Keep it in the 70-75 kph bracket (340 and 350 xls are the bread and butter of the Victor), mount big ballistics, and good energy on the other side, and add SSRMs or SRMs for infighting. You pretty much cannot go wrong.


The other choices can indeed be good MEchs, but Jenners...well to my mind you either ARE, or are not a Light Pilot. Real success does not tend to come to dabblers. (not counting people who just take advantage of borked hit detection). The Hback is a great little mech, but if you had issues with the Shad, I don't see how a slower, less versatile non jumping version of the mech will benefit you.

And overall, aside from the Champion BJ, the other roles, the BJ tends to be mediocre. Some people, like any mech, can do well in them, but in general they are a lackluster design.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 13 November 2013 - 07:57 AM.

[Pastor Priest]

Another vote for the Victor. It is my favorite at this point, with the SHD a close second. It is a versatile heavy hitter. While it is expensive it get set up, it is probably the best flanker in the game. I take particular pleasure in catching a medium or heavy alone and tearing them apart.

[Bobdolemite]

Voted Victor for all of the above mentioned reasons, the Victor should be owned by all at some point. Though honestly in that mix my favorite is the blackjack. I own two variants one being Ac-20 3 x ML and the other being 6 x ML. Love them both, when I start sucking in other mechs these are my goto's to have some fun.

That being said Victor is a fantastic mech! I leveled my hunchies but never really liked them =/ I guess starting with the Centurion got me kind of spoiled on armed humanish robots.

*Jenner is an absolute blast as well, this is IMO hands down the best light mech in the game*

Edited by Bobdolemite, 13 November 2013 - 11:55 AM.

[DrSlamastika]

I voted for VIctor cose they are really good, but I hope you will take hunchie or BJ cose there aro not many player playing for mediums Just assaults everywhere

[Bishop Steiner]

DrSlamastika, on 13 November 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

I voted for VIctor cose they are really good, but I hope you will take hunchie or BJ cose there aro not many player playing for mediums Just assaults everywhere

Hmmm.. the Shadowhawk would like a word with you.

[Shadey99]

Bishop Steiner, on 13 November 2013 - 07:55 AM, said:

The other choices can indeed be good MEchs, but Jenners...well to my mind you either ARE, or are not a Light Pilot. Real success does not tend to come to dabblers. (not counting people who just take advantage of borked hit detection).

I mastered Spiders before everyone started to complain about them. That said I do very well in my Locust 3M, with Jenners being a slightly slower slightly larger and up-gunned Locust 3Ms with JJs... I figure I'll do just fine in those. It's also the brother to my beloved Cicadas, which are sadly way to much larger in MWO...

Bishop Steiner, on 13 November 2013 - 07:55 AM, said:

The Hback is a great little mech, but if you had issues with the Shad, I don't see how a slower, less versatile non jumping version of the mech will benefit you.

Well the Hunchback is certainly shorter, I can fire clean over the head of Hunchies... I'm figuring I'd use the ballistic Hunchies just like I have the SHadowhawk, but on a shorter frame.

Bishop Steiner, on 13 November 2013 - 07:55 AM, said:

And overall, aside from the Champion BJ, the other roles, the BJ tends to be mediocre. Some people, like any mech, can do well in them, but in general they are a lackluster design.

I see the BJ as being a smaller Jager... and I like my Jagers... A couple variants with JJs adds a few extra options.

And I agree with everyone about the Victor. It's as fast as my BMs, but built like a Highlander. While I already mastered highlanders the Victor is tempting...

[NRP]

Why not challenge yourself and work on the Atlas tree?

[Shadey99]

NRP, on 13 November 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

Why not challenge yourself and work on the Atlas tree?

I don't even like how slow my Highlanders are... an Atlas would be even slower (& I'm not buying a Boar's Head just for the engine). I ran them as trial mechs and was never really impressed...

[Alaskan Nobody]

I am working on finishing my Phoenix mechs still...
As well as my Jenner(s) (Go Sarah's!)
Atlas....
And I need to get another 2 Jagers...

Hunchbacks are the next on my list after that.
Cause Centurion.

Don't know where I am gonna go after that... but I am debating Awesomes, because "everyone" says they suck - and I am kinda perverse (I.E. twisted) that way.

[Shadey99]

You guys really want me to work out another 15 mil (I already have 15 mil sitting around now) for those 3 Victors...

I could already buy the Jenners, BJs, and Hunchies... I guess I'll have to see if I can hold out for another 15 million cbills of farming...

Btw, how high up are the Jenners arm lasers? I'm curious how well they hill hump, which is a favorite tactic of mine in my Locust 3M...

Edited by Shadey99, 14 November 2013 - 12:31 PM.

[NRP]

Jenners have JJs, so arm height isn't that important (but to answer your question the arm weapons are pretty high).

[Appogee]

Victor has been one of my favourite chassis. But Jenners are great, too.

Give the BJs a miss until you're bored and up for a challenge.

[Oppresor]

I went with the Victor because it's the closest to what I would have gone for, an Atlas. The Victor looks the part and is capable of dishing out some serious damage; you just need to be a little careful from sideways incoming fire.