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#1 DjPush

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 01:26 PM

System:

Phenom II x4 965 BE 3.4ghz
16gb DDR3 RAM 1600
Radeon HD 7850 1gb OC edition
Rosewell 530W PSU
Seagate 1TB 7200RPM HDD

I have all graphics settings on max and run 1920x1080 res. I usually get 20-40fps. On 1680x1000 res It jumps all over the place. usually from 35-90fps. Is this normal? Is my system bottlenecked somewhere?

Temps are all normal. usually around 40 to 50C.

thank you.

#2 DjPush

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 01:33 PM

Also CPU and GPU are barely running at about 25% memory usage when game is running. Should it be using more of its available memory? Is there a way to make it use more? Just trying to educate myself on how all this works.

#3 Werewolf486 ScorpS

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 01:39 PM

Do these three things:

CPU Unpark

Turn Shadows to low

V-Sync off

#4 p8ragon

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 02:31 PM

This game is massively CPU bound. It likes fewer cores with higher frequencies. I went from a 4ghz i7 to a 4.8ghz i5...and I actually saw an IMPROVEMENT in fps despite retaining the same video cards

#5 Durant Carlyle

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 03:23 PM

Yeah, 800MHz is more important than the extra four Hyper-Threading pseudo-cores.

However, the "liking fewer cores" part doesn't actually hold true.

Two-core processors absolutely suck for this game, even if you could get one to 6GHz or higher. The sweet spot is four physical cores, running as fast as possible.

Edited by Durant Carlyle, 18 November 2013 - 03:25 PM.


#6 Goose

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 04:21 PM

View PostWerewolf486, on 18 November 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

Turn Shadows to low

http://www.tweakguid.../Crysis3_9.html

#7 Werewolf486 ScorpS

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 05:16 PM

View PostGoose, on 18 November 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:



What? I saw an improvement in FPS that was noticeable, not saying it's gonna fix it all, but it helps.

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 07:27 PM

Setting anything to Low is butt-ugly, but sometimes you got'a do it.

I'm just saying "There's bigger yealds to be had, first." ;-)

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 12:22 PM

View PostWerewolf486, on 18 November 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

Do these three things:

CPU Unpark

Turn Shadows to low

V-Sync off


Viper is telling me that it is blocking adware when I try to download the CPU unpark file for my 1055T. Is there a better/safer site to get this from?

I'm hoping this helps my low framerates:
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T @ 2.8 GHz
8 GB RAM
AMD HD 5870

Edited by Marauder3D, 19 November 2013 - 12:29 PM.


#10 Durant Carlyle

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 12:50 PM

You're not using the big green Download buttons are you? Those are ads.

You need to click the link just above the Add Comment section, right above one of the big green Download button ads -- it says "Download application executable files ..." The actual file name you should be downloading is Unpark-CPU-App.zip.

#11 xWiredx

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 01:01 PM

You need more IPC or a higher clock frequency on that CPU. Get some nice cooling and take that unlocked CPU as far as it can go or get an Intel Core i5 with higher clocks. My Phenom II X3 720BE was only stable to 3.7GhZ on air, but that chip should be able to do 3.8-4.2GhZ under water.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 03:05 PM

I have a Phenom II x4 955 non-BE 3.4ghz and a GTX 460 768MB and I get similar frames @1080, 20-35, never going above 60 with everything on low at 1600x900.

I don't think this game likes AMD CPUs?

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 03:13 PM

It's not necessarily AMD CPUs themselves. Keep in mind that a Phenom II X4 955 is slower than a Core i5 750.

For most gaming, that's not going to hurt you, but MWO is particularly ridiculous about system requirements.

Edited by Catamount, 19 November 2013 - 03:32 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 03:43 PM

View PostCest7, on 19 November 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

… and a GTX 460 768MB …

That might also be an issue: Do you know how loaded you GPU memory is, in-game?

Edited by Goose, 19 November 2013 - 03:44 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 04:02 PM

MWO is highly CPU bound. You will not get 60 fps minimums without a highly overclocked fx8350 (4.6 GHz or so), or an overclocked i5 or i7.

My advice is to sit tight until they finish their DX11 performance pass and take DX11 live and see if things improve before upgrading.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 05:06 PM

Thanks for the tips gents, got it working. Unfortunately, didn't have a huge impact, maybe improved things 4-6 FPS. Caustic is especially bad still, but hey, that is a tough map for many setups I think.

#17 BP Raven

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 05:45 PM

Try turning envionment to low if you haven't already done so; i get practically double my fps vs setting it to max, with (to my eyes) very little visual difference.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 11:38 PM

View PostGoose, on 19 November 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

That might also be an issue: Do you know how loaded you GPU memory is, in-game?


With textures on medium @ 1080p it'll max out. Lower resolutions sit around 75%.. low textures on 1600x900 underutilizes it a bit.

#19 Goose

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 12:57 AM

Er: Without a precise number, I have to assume "max out" it bad

1080 @ low textures it is. :-(

View PostBP Raven, on 19 November 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

Try turning envionment to low if you haven't already done so; i get practically double my fps vs setting it to max, with (to my eyes) very little visual difference.

Zero out Particles, and Shadows, Shaders and Objects at medium or less should all be considered - er, before destroying the environment …

Also: Turn off Ambient Occlusion in the driver.

#20 Bullseye69

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 04:28 PM

i went a head and order up a r9 270x card to replace my hd 7770 card was having low frame rate and also my texture would load unload on build in game. I figured that it maybe the ram on video card being overload since it only a 1 gig card and i figured it couldn't hurt to double the amount of stream processor on the card should maybe stabilize the frame rates a bit. I will know by tomorrow how it going to preform. I do know that under the direct x 11 test they had I lost 5 to 15 frames and the game was unplayable for me I hope when they do get it fixed I will pickup some framerates since the new card is stronger and I here that Direct x 11 shifts thing more to the GPU than the CPU. Has anyone else noticed that when you die and you getting scene of your dead mech your frame rates go up a lot, kind of wondering if all those hud effects we have might not be killing some frame rates just by itself. Someone time when you die just observe before clicking into spectator mode, I dont run in 3rd person mode but would be interesting to see how the frame rates do vs 1 person mode.





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