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[Artgathan]

FupDup, on 27 November 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

Perhaps I exaggerated it a tad too much, but if I heard rumors correctly we'll be getting weapon manufacturer variants with CW for owning certain planets...stuff like extra range, less heat, and supposedly even less weight on some items (there may be other tweaked variables). Having access to straight-out better equipment is something that I know I would certainly want to have secured.

Ah yes! I popped the question of whether we'd see manufacturer specific questions in ATD 30something and they said they did have a template for it. It's one feature I'd love to see, but only as "side-grades" - no one variant is outright superior to others (or else the game can get very unbalanced very quickly).

[Sandpit]

Artgathan, on 27 November 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

According to the 20min video from the Launch Party it will be mercs that control planets, factions just open up zones that the mercs can fight in. From what I understand it'll work like this:

Davion and Kurita fight over control of a "front". Once Davion, for instance, hits X% control, mercs can then bid for contracts to take control of planets in the front that Davion owns.

You've got that a bit backwards. Mercs don't own or control planets. Factions do. I think you may have misunderstood part of it. Factions will be the ones that can move planetary boundaries. The mercs can be hired by factions to assist them.

[Almond Brown]

3rdworld, on 26 November 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

And yet I never said they should have owned everyone they played. I made absolutely zero comment on how they should have done, or if the results were anything but as expected.

You both inferred that on my statements.

Your provision of statistics that relate directly to outcome, "3 kills in 5 Matches", pretty much reads as "they suck really bad". Better off, next time, to avoid the responses you didn't seem to like, is don't make inferences with stats that create said inferences you weren't making.

[Captain Stiffy]

LOL when I made almost this exact same post 6 months ago I nearly got banned for it.

I guess times have changed.

[aniviron]

It is a good theory, at least. I do remember the PPC though, how any mech with energy hardpoints actually had PPC hardpoints, and the PPC was the go-to weapon for the serious player for oh, about 7 months. This, despite the PPC having been king for so long that every level of play was all PPCs all day.

[Kin3ticX]

Good point OP. Heres a list of weapon preferences i threw together. Maybe mine is similar to all of yours. This should be what PGI picks up in their metrics from me.

Weapons I use most of the time;
ac20, ac10, UAC, ac5, ac2, PPC, ER large, Large, Medium Lasers

weapons I seldom use;
LRMs, SRMs, Streaks, ER PPC, small laser, Gauss rifle, Tag

weapons I never use;
LBX, Machineguns, Flamers, Pulse Lasers, NARC

[3rdworld]

Almond Brown, on 28 November 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:

Your provision of statistics that relate directly to outcome, "3 kills in 5 Matches", pretty much reads as "they suck really bad".

To people that don't play 12s perhaps. Anyone that has ever ran a 12 knows how difficult and unkind they can be.

Personal skill won't make or break the match, and the only way you could possibly be shut out of a game, is to basically be out of position the entire time.

[Victor Morson]

Sandpit, on 27 November 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

You've got that a bit backwards. Mercs don't own or control planets. Factions do. I think you may have misunderstood part of it. Factions will be the ones that can move planetary boundaries. The mercs can be hired by factions to assist them.

They've stated repeatedly mercs can actually own planets in the outlying areas (near the Periphery). Wouldn't surprise me if they go back on it though.

Kin3ticX, on 29 November 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

Good point OP. Heres a list of weapon preferences i threw together. Maybe mine is similar to all of yours. This should be what PGI picks up in their metrics from me.

Weapons I use most of the time;
ac20, ac10, UAC, ac5, ac2, PPC, ER large, Large, Medium Lasers

weapons I seldom use;
LRMs, SRMs, Streaks, ER PPC, small laser, Gauss rifle, Tag

weapons I never use;
LBX, Machineguns, Flamers, Pulse Lasers, NARC

We could do almost an entire thread on just this, heh.

Mostly:
AC/20, AC/5, PPC, ER PPC, Medium Laser, Small Laser, Small Pulse Laser, SRM2-6.

Often:
LRM, Gauss, TAG, Streaks

Rarely:
Large Pulse, Medium Pulse, AC10

Never:
Flamer, NARC, LBX/10, Machine Guns, AC/2.

Bonus: Worst piece of equipment in the game:
The NARC Beacon wins, defeating the Flamer and Machine Gun without even trying!

Edited by Victor Morson, 29 November 2013 - 04:54 PM.

[Pwnocchio]

If dev's realize that most of the players don't use items that they spent a lot of time coding they'll get the message and tweak accordingly when they have the resources to do so.

I think what is more alarming/concerning is not the 'balance' issues, but the fact that we are still waiting on UI 2.0 and there is now Community Warfare in sight.

Tweaking is something that they will presumably use over time to change the game meta/flavor. I wouldn't actually ever expect 'all mechs/weapons to be created equal' because they'll need to change the mix over time to keep the game fresh.

[Victor Morson]

Pwnocchio, on 29 November 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

If dev's realize that most of the players don't use items that they spent a lot of time coding they'll get the message and tweak accordingly when they have the resources to do so.

Counterpoint: Nobody has used the flamer for a year and a half, we've all complained about it, and the last time they spent the literal, no hyperbole 5 minutes in the weapons XML to tweak it at all was about a year ago.

What I am saying is.. I don't think that's likely.

[Itsalrightwithme]

Victor, I think you should differentiate uAC5 and AC5 on your list ..... or do you really think of them as one and the same?

For solo pugging or some 4-man, I like:
Mostly:
AC20, uAC5, AC5, PPC, SPuls, AC2.

Sometimes:
LPuls, ERLLas, LLas, MG, LB-10x, SRM, SSRM2, MG.

Rarely:
MPuls, LRM (with TAG), AC10, ERPPC.

Never:
NARC.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Captain Stiffy, on 28 November 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

LOL when I made almost this exact same post 6 months ago I nearly got banned for it.

I guess times have changed.

Same here when I suggested the best solution to spiders was to exploit them until the devs do something yet I received infractions and mod scorn.

Hypocritical PGI staff is deplorable on these forums.

[TOGSolid]

I don't think any amount of playing or not playing something will make PGI wake up to the fact that this game will be permanently FUBAR'd as long as the heat system and pinpoint damage mechanics remain as they are.
Honestly, the only thing keeping a game this fundamentally broken going for this long is the fact that it's called MechWarrior.

Edited by TOGSolid, 30 November 2013 - 02:38 AM.

[Karl Streiger]

You can also take a 80 Alpha BattleMaster or a Double 40 Alpha Dragon Slayer/Protector....yes you are dead after those damage...but hey you have a premium Mech and someone is very very pissed of after getting shot by you.

Ghost Heat is great to penalize you for using such a Mech....but 80dmg on point are 80 dmg on point - in the right moment a kill is a kill. At least nobody would be able to kill you

[kevin roshak]

OP I like the Grinch reference. Also suprisingly this made sense, which i personally find rare in almost every forum post i read...

[Svensken]

if the devs dont give a fk then they dont give a fk

posting on forum dont change that