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[Werewolf486 ScorpS]

This seems to have been the PGI way to fix most problems, Ghost heat being the biggest! Enjoy a good laugh!

[Koniving]

I agree. Heat Scale was a very un-intuitive fix when a combination of locked threshold (Note 1) and reduced ammo (note 2) could have been both simpler, cost effective, and done within 30 seconds or less to tack into a testing build.

That's not to mention far more effective and easier to communicate. "You can't hit 30 points of heat at once or reach 30 points of heat overtime. If you do you will shut down." Most meta builds instantly go out the window as useless. It becomes either boat lots of small weapons, boat autocannons, or chain fire everything. Since ammo gets reduced, the only choices are small low-heat weapons or chain fire.

Note 1

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(MW3 it's 30 threshold [i.e. fire 3 PPCs you shut down, fire 2 ER PPCs you shut down, fire 4 large lasers you shut down, etc.]. MW2 had "40" (You can fire 4 and shut down) in its playstation version for an "arcade" feel. MW4, the game that killed the franchise, had 60 (Fire 6 PPCs at once and shut down) which encouraged boating of high power, high alpha weapons instead of boating weaker DPS weapons. MWO currently has the possibility of reaching 88.56 with twin PPCs (you could fire 8 PPCs and 2 ML and still not shut down). The trial mechs start with 40. The average 10 DHS player has 60. Experimenting with the concept of clan DHS in MWO's current DHS rules, could easily get a clan mech with a threshold of 120 [before ghost heat, that'd be 12 PPCs or 120 AC/5s fired at the same time to shutdown]).

Note 2

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A low threshold would restrict mainly energy builds into utter uselessness unless the player chain fired and serious missile boating builds would be stuck firing once every 10 seconds, due to shutting down every time they alpha striked. Macro-fired, the 4 AC/2 rig would shut down within 5 seconds with 16 DHS. Sadly the twin AC/20 rig would barely be affected as MWO heat for it is actually lower than tabletop heat. A combination of raising AC/20 heat by 1 point and reducing its ammo would severely limit the AC/20's appeal as a boat-friendly weapon. Unfortunately all autocannons (except the AC/2) would thrive in a low threshold environment. So changing ammo counts to be less per ton would fix the other half of our anti-boating paradox. Ammo counts were originally (in order AC/20, AC/10, AC/5, AC/2) 5 shots, 10 shots, 20 shots, 45 shots per ton.

Also fun video!

Edited by Koniving, 27 November 2013 - 12:07 AM.

[a little fluffy bunny]

Koniving, on 27 November 2013 - 12:01 AM, said:

Wisdom

It never ceases to amaze me how right you are about the heat - and more to the point how simple your fix is.

Keep it up, good Sir, I have hope that one day your perseverance will come to fruition.