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#21 MisterFiveSeven

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 09:59 AM

View PostJonal, on 26 November 2013 - 08:46 AM, said:

I would rather the MM balance by total mech weight then ELO. To me that seems to matter much more.


And then you will discover that the worst pilots in every match are piloting atlases.

And you will probably see more steamrolls than less.

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:08 AM

Everyone stopped learning once "stick together" became the defacto tactic in Conquest.

Riding in someone elses' cockpit only really tells you "X is a better shot then me".

Adding weight limits to the game only feeds the "stop capping" meme, and really doesn't belong in the non-Deathmatch modes: Learn to maneuver, fat-at…

Edited by Goose, 26 November 2013 - 10:32 AM.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:19 AM

View PostAmsro, on 26 November 2013 - 06:06 AM, said:

Elo ratings are all skewed due to poor MatchMaking resulting in inaccurate Elo, resulting in Roadbeer threads, resulting in forum tears that powers the inner workings of the MatchMaker.

Result = We all use the same Meh Matchmaker, so at least we are all in this together!

Actually some just wait patiently in hopes it gets fixed or a solo q is added before going back to the grinder. It is no fun to be apart of 12-2 or 2-12 matches and that those steam rolls usually mean a low Cbill count at the end.
The fun isnt there and the grind unbearable.

It was to wet to go out
to cold to play ball
so sally and I
sat in the house
and did frack all.

Edited by Blurry, 26 November 2013 - 10:19 AM.


#24 Jonal

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:22 AM

View PostMisterFiveSeven, on 26 November 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:


And then you will discover that the worst pilots in every match are piloting atlases.

And you will probably see more steamrolls than less.


I see plenty bad Atlas players already, but I take solace in the fact they soak up lots of damage before they die at least. I'm not sure how I can see any more steamrolls, it's rare when its a close fight as it stands now.

#25 Sarsaparilla Kid

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:53 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 26 November 2013 - 05:48 AM, said:

I am of a different school as you I guess. I figure we should face all players! PEEF an Khobai In a drop against or with me would probably be humbling, but that wouldn't stop me from learning a thing or two, and then someday start sneaking a kill or two against them.

Facing better opponents makes you a better player, whether you know it or not.


Sadly, PEEF has left to play another game for now...

IBRB!
(in before Roadbeer)

#26 Sandpit

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 11:25 AM

Speaking of which, stop me if you've heard this one before

Scene: Canyon mid-steptember, cool afternoon. Sandpit derping along in his Stalker alongside his Atlas ECM buddy after a big firefight. Sand's team is up 7v3 at the moment but Sand's poor Stalker is pretty banged up and smoking a little. His Atlas buddy shows to be at 89% health in the lance info. When all of a sudden, they round a corner and BAM! there's an enemy Stalker...!

*Sand"Atlas buddy help me out here" *Sand derps forward to pew pew the heathen enemy Stalker*

*Atlas buddy ".............." *Atlas pulls back and hides around corner*

Sand "Hey buddy, I could use some help here! I'm banged up and won't hold out much longer, can you soak some damage and help me out?"
Atlas buddy ".............."

Sand "uhm hello? help?" *Sand continues to pew pew pew his heart out dueling the heathen*
Atlas buddy "................."

Sand "Dude! come help! please?!?!? You have like no damage!
Atlas buddy ".............."

*Teammate Derp "He's out of weapons dude, quit asking him to help and just do it yourself. Quit QQing."
Sandpit "So, being out of weapons prevents you from soaking some damage and still helping your team win somehow?"
Teammate Derp "uhm, well uhm. DERP! Derp, DERP derp DERP!"

*All names have been changed to protect the derps

#27 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 12:05 PM

View PostSarsaparilla Kid, on 26 November 2013 - 10:53 AM, said:


Sadly, PEEF has left to play another game for now...

IBRB!
(in before Roadbeer)

That may be sad for the game but not so much for the Forums. He was a bit to cocky for someone playing a game. :P

Kinda like someone who, when I complimented their in game tactics, told me to take notes... As if I did do in real life what they were simulating in a game ;) .

#28 Sandpit

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 12:08 PM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 26 November 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

That may be sad for the game but not so much for the Forums. He was a bit to cocky for someone playing a game. :P

Kinda like someone who, when I complimented their in game tactics, told me to take notes... As if I did do in real life what they were simulating in a game ;) .

you don't take notes........?

How do you past the test though? :P

#29 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 12:09 PM

View PostSandpit, on 26 November 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

you don't take notes........?

How do you past the test though? ;)

I pay for the right answers! :P

#30 Mystere

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 12:16 PM

View PostSandpit, on 26 November 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

you don't take notes........?

How do you past the test though? :P


By staying alive:



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:28 PM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 26 November 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

I pay for the right answers! :P

I KNEW this was P2W!!!

#32 MnDragon

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:44 PM

Have you all forgotten that the ELO is the mythical E-Peen system that is all make believe? No one knows what their ELO score is and never will, nor is it public so we don't what everyone elses looks like either. Only Paul and the devs get to look at our E-Peen Length Observations (ELO) and laugh at their smallness or cower at their prowess. Everyone should know by now that the Matchmaker is nothing more than a hat that is given to an AI version of Roadbeer who randomly picks the names out of a hat and matches based on what would be the most troll-like game possible.

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:50 PM

View PostMystere, on 26 November 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:


By staying alive:



we need a "hug post" option lol

#34 Hellcat420

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:55 PM

they need to go back to weight class matching. tonnage limits are a bad idea and will hurt the game more then it will help.

#35 Sarsaparilla Kid

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:56 PM

View PostMnDragon, on 26 November 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

Everyone should know by now that the Matchmaker is nothing more than a hat that is given to an AI version of Roadbeer who randomly picks the names out of a hat and matches based on what would be the most troll-like game possible.


No...I'm sure Roadbeer would do a better job than the matchmaker currently running... :blink:

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 04:11 PM

View PostSandpit, on 26 November 2013 - 11:25 AM, said:

Speaking of which, stop me if you've heard this one before

Scene: Canyon mid-steptember, cool afternoon. Sandpit derping along in his Stalker alongside his Atlas ECM buddy after a big firefight. Sand's team is up 7v3 at the moment but Sand's poor Stalker is pretty banged up and smoking a little. His Atlas buddy shows to be at 89% health in the lance info. When all of a sudden, they round a corner and BAM! there's an enemy Stalker...!

*Sand"Atlas buddy help me out here" *Sand derps forward to pew pew the heathen enemy Stalker*

*Atlas buddy ".............." *Atlas pulls back and hides around corner*

Sand "Hey buddy, I could use some help here! I'm banged up and won't hold out much longer, can you soak some damage and help me out?"
Atlas buddy ".............."

Sand "uhm hello? help?" *Sand continues to pew pew pew his heart out dueling the heathen*
Atlas buddy "................."

Sand "Dude! come help! please?!?!? You have like no damage!
Atlas buddy ".............."

*Teammate Derp "He's out of weapons dude, quit asking him to help and just do it yourself. Quit QQing."
Sandpit "So, being out of weapons prevents you from soaking some damage and still helping your team win somehow?"
Teammate Derp "uhm, well uhm. DERP! Derp, DERP derp DERP!"

*All names have been changed to protect the derps


sadly this happens... when said atlas still has weapons. :blink:

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:02 PM

I think the matching system is broken. That or so few people are still playing it has very little to chose from. A large majority of the time when solo launching I am placed on a team that gets completely rolled. And/or placed on a team that is missing one or two players. I am constantly on teams with players roaming around by the themselves, going AFK, running into the middle of death and anything else you can imagine that you shouldn't do. All the while the opposing team is a tightly knit pack, focus firing everything in sight. Why does this happen?

I'm not trying to complain so much as I am to understand what the hell is going on. MWO is not a one man show, so no matter how well I do it simply doesn't matter. I love so many parts of this game, but the horrid matching is driving me away. And recently I find it gets worse every week. That or I have the worst luck in the world and karma is due for a big payback.



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