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[Drunk Canuck]

Want to get people to carry AMS without it feeling like it's a complete waste of tonnage? How about upping the ammo per ton from 1000 rounds to 2000? Give me more reason to counter all the LRM boats with my dual AMS Mech's because right now, even running two or three tons does not seem like enough in some matches, and I'd rather just carry two tons and have 4000 rounds, that would counter one or two LRM boats in a single match easily

[Roadbeer]

[Stomp]

Upping it might be cool, but doubling it? I wouldn't mind seeing something like 1250 rounds/ton. As it is I bring AMS on several of my mechs, like my Spider or any of my assaults. In my opinion, if you're going to purchase a 100 ton mech, and then not even devote a ton and a half to your team, you're a righteous ***** haha. That's NOTHING on an Atlas.

[Sandpit]

Drunk Canuck, on 25 November 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Give me more reason to counter all the LRM boats with my dual AMS Mech's

Wouldn't not getting shot up by LRMs be reason enough?

[Drunk Canuck]

Sandpit, on 25 November 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

Wouldn't not getting shot up by LRMs be reason enough?

Carrying 2 or 3 tons of AMS ammo on my Jester, I have had more then one match where I ran out of ammo before I died, and it was usually well before. AMS ammo should be increased, 1500 might be sufficient, but 1000 isn't much in the grand scheme of things.

[Shrike ski]

I both agree and disagree, AMS was always a {Scrap} shoot in table top in how much ammo you used (didn't cover teammates tho) wouldn't be opposed to seeing an increase in total shots but a doubling is a bit much, maybe 1250? per ton. and as in other threads in this forum a team play bonus for covering your teammates with AMS should exist small cbill bonus that is not xp.

[PenitentTangent]

1200 feels like a good number to me.

[kevin roshak]

AMS isnt made to make you compelety immune to missiles. its there as a suplement to cover and ecm and whatever else there is to avoiding missiles.

[Daniel Travieso]

It makes perfect sense, I support the double amount idea.

Machine gun ammo is 2000 rounds per ton and that is at least a .50 cal.
AMS ammo is smaller and should at least be the same amount or even more.

Edited by Daniel Travieso, 26 November 2013 - 10:51 AM.

[PenitentTangent]

Daniel Travieso, on 26 November 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

It makes perfect sense, I support the double amount idea.

Machine gun ammo is 2000 rounds per ton and that is at least a .50 cal.
AMS ammo is smaller and should at least be the same amount or even more.

I don't necessarily think this logic is always true. Ams systems use special rounds designed to screw up missiles by ripping holes in them, knocking them off course, or detonating their payload. with the whole reloading and function of AMSs, its actually hard to fit large amounts of ammunition in them. Also, most modern AMS systems fire either 20mm or 25mm ammunition. 0.50 cal is 12.7mm, which is noticeably smaller. While the AMSs in BT may fire ammo smaller than 20mm, It probably isn't smaller by much.

regardless, I think we need to keep a boundary on the amount of ammunition the AMS can have per tonne just as a nerfing factor. I think 1250 or at most 1500 rounds is enough per tonne.

IDK, this whole concept is thrown out the window by Clan AMS anyway.

(Excuse any typos; English is not my native language)

Edited by PenitentTangent, 27 November 2013 - 04:58 PM.

[Funkin Disher]

1250 or 1500 sounds good to me too.

[Sug]

Roadbeer, on 25 November 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

******** it road i was going to post that.