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[Sybreed]

They should look at the X:Rebirth debacle.

Those who don't know the X games, they are space sims in which trading, building stations, having multiple fleet of ships are the foundations of what's fun in those games. In their latest iteration, they removed the possibility to pilot different ships (now you can only command AI captains), they dumbed down the economy and trading in general, put only about 25% of the number of sectors (call them maps) that we had in X3 and really, really streamlined and dumbed down the combat by limiting the number of weapons available and how many you can fire at will on your ship.

When people found out that the new X game was a dumbed down, streamlined, but more beautiful version of their beloved serie, they decided to take a look at the codes and found several signs that X:Rebirth was supposed to be released on Xbox first, then on PC. In short, they released a console port to the PC, because somehow they got blocked from releasing their game on Xbox. You can't configure a joystick properly, but an Xbox controller works flawlessly! The UI is a mess that screams "made for consoles" and they added silly mechanics like scanning cargos in deep space and retrieving them for magic loot.

The biggest mistake is that they thought they could have their cake and eat it too. They tried to catter to a wider audience by dumbing the game down, without ******* their veteran fans, but their main audience are the hardcore X veterans who have played the games for over 15 years (or so) and never wanted a "version for stupids" of X.

Now, anyone who got steam can go read the forums and enjoy the **** storm, it's quite possibly the worst I've seen (worse than the Rome 2 Total War fiasco).

The moral of the story is: If your main fanbase is made of hardcore PC gamers, don't **** it off by dumbing your game down, because the little benefits of having a fanbase made of unloyal, casual kids who change the game they play every month isn't worth it and it'll damage your reputation for a very long time.

edit: Spelling/grammar mistake... I wrote that in a hurry

Edited by Sybreed, 18 November 2013 - 02:05 PM.

[Ransack]

I was so close to buying that, since I have all the others. You just saved me some money. Thanks.

[Xeno Phalcon]

Garth Erlam, on 05 November 2013 - 09:48 AM, said:

• Removed the key binding option "Fire Selected Weapon Group". Mouse 1's (Left Click) default key bind is now "Fire Weapon Group 1", this can be remapped in the options screen.

It has already begun.

[mike29tw]

Damnit I enjoyed X:TC so much ...... was looking forward to getting it sometime next year.

[kuangmk11]

I like the stance RSI has take with consoles. To sum up "give me the latitude to do whatever I want, when I want, with no hoops to jump through and maybe I will think about putting my game on your box."
https://forums.rober...s4-and-consoles

[Heffay]

Xeno Phalcon, on 18 November 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

It has already begun.

That will be restored tomorrow.

[M4NTiC0R3X]

Ehum:



We already know they're a big bunch of sell outs.

Edited by M4NTiC0R3X, 18 November 2013 - 01:10 PM.

[Sybreed]

kuangmk11, on 18 November 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

I like the stance RSI has take with consoles. To sum up "give me the latitude to do whatever I want, when I want, with no hoops to jump through and maybe I will think about putting my game on your box."
https://forums.rober...s4-and-consoles

interesting read, thx.

Pretty much everyone who bough X:Rebirth are asking for refunds and are waiting on SC now.

[Fabe]

Does any one have any sort real solid prof other then some poor design choices that they plan to port the game over to console or is this just more anti PGI slander from the hate cult?

[Heffay]

Fabe, on 18 November 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

Does any one have any sort real solid prof other then some poor design choices that they plan to port the game over to console or is this just more anti PGI slander from the hate cult?

The latter.

[MonkeyCheese]

Sybreed, on 18 November 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

The moral of the story is: If your main fanbase is made of hardcore PC gamers, don't **** it off by dumbing your game down, because the little benefits of having a fanbase made of unloyal, casual kids who change the game they play every month isn't worth it and it'll damage your reputation for a very long time.

I have been saying this for months, look how quickly the console kiddies move on to the next FIFA, madden, NBA, tiger woods, call of duty game when it is and if it isn't a sequal they will jump over to the new release from the competitors.

Another example is transformers war for Cybertron on ps3 for me, decent game that would attract new movie fans and old generation 1 fans thanks to the art style and setting away from earth/humans.

The online multiplayer was decent months later when I finally got the game, then it slowly started to decline as to where match finding times were crazy so I just stopped trying, and I assume it got even worse when the sequal came out and I would guess that even the sequals multiplayer is quiet these days. Even a massive juggernaut like transformers with well made games can't even hold up for that long.

Free to play might work on consoles but i see the grind/slow Mech collection and limited mechbays as a turn off to the casual console crowd when compared to more open games like planetside 2 that has open worlds with multiple classes and guns from the begining and a already massive player base that can convert to console.

I really hope the console whispers are not true as I can't see mwo working there if we can't even keep a healthy player base here.

[Sybreed]

good point about planetside 2. I think the main reason you won't see it on consoles (well, it could work on PS4 I guess) is the sheer computer power needed to make it work.

[MonkeyCheese]

Sybreed, on 18 November 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

good point about planetside 2. I think the main reason you won't see it on consoles (well, it could work on PS4 I guess) is the sheer computer power needed to make it work.

What do you mean??

Planetside 2 is 100% officially coming to playstation 4 and that is one hell of a technically massive game.

But they have the power of SOE and a massive playerbase behind them.

Edited by MonkeyCheese, 18 November 2013 - 07:10 PM.

[Sybreed]

MonkeyCheese, on 18 November 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:

What do you mean??

Planetside 2 is 100% officially coming to playstation 4 and that is one hell of a technically massive game.

But they have the power of SOE and a massive playerbase behind them.

oh, well I didn't know that. I meant the console generation that was on the market at the time Planetside 2 was released didn't have the power to run the game (X360 & PS3).

[Sybreed]

here's an article about the whole mess if anyone is interested... I'm really saddened to see such a good franchise burst into flames like this...

http://www.gamefront...-in-spaaaaaace/

[xengk]

Meanwhile in Russia....

[Sybreed]

woah, just realized IGP edited the title and sent this to off-topic (I think that's the 5th thread I made that was sent to OT this month)