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Tesunie, on 06 December 2013 - 06:30 PM, said:
I never said that it was easy to escape a strike. I only say it is possible.
I still have as of yet to see any "math" on your side, but you did post links to a lot of helpful information that neither of us knew. My math proves that it is possible to escape a strike, even with a slow mech.
Artillery was designed to take on slow objects. The slowest mech in the game is an Atlas, so it is only reasonable that an Atlas, being the "fastest" slow mech around, will have additional problems with them. (AKA: Even with the largest engine, it's still not going to be as fast as many other mechs, even other assaults.)
I mention Elo as you mentioned being at high Elo (with skilled people), as that seems to be where this "problem" is. I'm just saying that we don't know what our Elo is, and that trying to figure it out by any reported stat isn't going to give any sense of accuracy. Maybe you are high Elo, maybe you aren't. We can't tell.
Your story is very plausible, and if it is true (I do not doubt you on that), then you used the artillery strikes as you should. You use good timing for them, place them well, and use terrain to your strikes best advantage. This is expected.
Half of the way you dodge a strike is to just stay on the move (not technically even trying to dodge the strike per say). This doesn't mean not using terrain nor never stopping. However staying in some form of movement, even bobbing up and down a hill, into or out of cover, etc, is usually a good idea. Most good pilots I see (unlike a Victor earlier today) stay in some kind of motion to dodge shots, move into and out of cover, etc. (The Victor in my match stood still and was deciding to play mid range sniper against a dual AC20 Jager, and got quickly cored with a nice hill right to the side of them.)
You keep making it sound like the strikes are impossible to dodge. All I'm proving, and have done so with hard math, is that it is in fact possible to dodge a strike within the 4 seconds in a 60 kph mech, if not even slower. I by no means said this would be easy, nor did I say it was simple. However, most pilots I know of find it possible to get out of a strike's main bulk of damage. Saying it is possible doesn't mean it is easy. It just says it is possible.
Yeah, you proved (actually it was I who proved it) that in the BEST CASE SCENARIO it is possible to get to the edge of an artillery strike at 60 km/h. Who cares? If someone dropped an artillery strike on you in your best case scenario, they obviously were going to miss anyway. You don't need to change speed or direction to avoid it? LOL. You weren't dodging anything, you were just walking. In other words, it was going to miss you anyway, as I said from the very beginning. When dodging requires an actual reaction — a change in speed or direction, if your mech only goes 60 km/h, you are still going to be in the danger zone when the shells hit, end of story.
