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[ColonelMetus]

he comes for you...

(with 360 targeting retention module)

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...80ee112ec5160e8

[zztophat]

I've personally never found JJs to be all that useful for hunting lights in anything heavier than a light. It's just that way the way the heavier mechs handle, JJs are very useful on them but not on par with a light's ability to evade with them. Frankly in a medium with a 360XL I'd do most of my light splattering with my feet firmly on the ground.

EDIT: biggest difference is the fact that when you hit the ground after a jump in a light, you practically hit it running, where as in a medium you lose a lot of time getting back to full speed. Meaning that if a light wants to shake a jumping medium, all they have to do is make said medium jump.

Edited by zztophat, 08 December 2013 - 06:14 PM.

[LORD TSARKON]

I"ve found the 360 Targeting Module to not work all the time.. (used it on my DDC ATlas,ect)...

Your Medium Mech might chew up lights... but my Shadowhawk will chew you up fast with AC/20 or 2 UAC 5s,ect..

[ColonelMetus]

LORD TSARKON, on 08 December 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

I"ve found the 360 Targeting Module to not work all the time.. (used it on my DDC ATlas,ect)...

Your Medium Mech might chew up lights... but my Shadowhawk will chew you up fast with AC/20 or 2 UAC 5s,ect..

i would just run away like a frenchmen

[Carrioncrows]

You are better off with the Wolverine 7K

http://goo.gl/EA9rZl

Spreads both the energy and the missiles over several locations.

And you can keep the head mounted one as a medium pulse

[Deathlike]

This is like the 2nd thread in a row where I see a terribad design posted.

Now I completely understand why these threads are made.

[Escef]

Deathlike, on 08 December 2013 - 06:29 PM, said:

This is like the 2nd thread in a row where I see a terribad design posted.

Now I completely understand why these threads are made.

It's a far cry from terribad. Or even bad. Hell, I've dropped big mechs with a 2D Commando with less firepower, though the Commando is faster and smaller. Overall, it's nothing that can't be done better on a SHD, though.

[Carrioncrows]

Or the Griffin 3M - http://goo.gl/HGTySS
(They messed up the hardpoints, it should have 2 energy and 4 Missile, so just pretend the SRM6 is x2 streak2's)

2 large pulse
4 Streak2's.

Edited by Carrioncrows, 08 December 2013 - 06:49 PM.

[Deathlike]

Escef, on 08 December 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

It's a far cry from terribad. Or even bad. Hell, I've dropped big mechs with a 2D Commando with less firepower, though the Commando is faster and smaller. Overall, it's nothing that can't be done better on a SHD, though.

Well, the KTO is the king (in terms of Streaks), although the Streakhawk is perfectly meta-compliant and then some (it's much more diverse/useful).

I didn't like his build (it wasn't the point). My point was more than there already exists something a lot more threatening and pointing this out is pretty much "meh".

[Escef]

Deathlike, on 08 December 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:

My point was more than there already exists something a lot more threatening and pointing this out is pretty much "meh".

If you want to say it's "meh", go ahead and say it's "meh". 'Cause it is. But calling it "terribad" is a disservice to the OP and the community, and makes you look bad.

[Deathlike]

Escef, on 08 December 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

If you want to say it's "meh", go ahead and say it's "meh". 'Cause it is. But calling it "terribad" is a disservice to the OP and the community, and makes you look bad.

It's not when the weapon loadout is literally on one side. I know that hasn't stopped Highlanders, but the Griffin loadout can be replicated elsewhere.

TBH, none of the Saber pack mechs excite me, but I haven't made a final opinion on them (since, it's all conjecture).

Seems like you could do more than that IMO anyhow (excessive JJs, and max engine eats too much tonnage for my liking).

[Sybreed]

ColonelMetus, on 08 December 2013 - 06:19 PM, said:

i would just run away like a frenchmen

people who post this kind of comment really don't know anything about the war

[Deathlike]

Sybreed, on 08 December 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

people who post this kind of comment really don't know anything about the war

Wait until you hear his defense for "LRMs being OP"...

Edited by Deathlike, 08 December 2013 - 07:38 PM.

[Escef]

Deathlike, on 08 December 2013 - 07:35 PM, said:

It's not when the weapon loadout is literally on one side. I know that hasn't stopped Highlanders, but the Griffin loadout can be replicated elsewhere.

So, that makes it terribad when one fo the best mechs in the game has the same issue? Yeah, I don't think so.

[ColonelMetus]

all its weapons B on one side dawg, so i fixed that problem by putting an XL engine in it so it cant lose that side now hu care bro.

secondly i already payed for saber reinforcements, so of course im going to build my mechs i payed for, it would be foolish to buy them then walk away because "there are better mechs"

thirdly LRM as they are now are fine, even when boated, its the fllooders that are going to get them nerfed for everyone else.


4th.... what war? the french have fled like cowards from litterally dozens of them so its assinine to simply say "the war"

[Deathlike]

Escef, on 08 December 2013 - 08:16 PM, said:

So, that makes it terribad when one fo the best mechs in the game has the same issue? Yeah, I don't think so.

Well, the Highlander does have missiles on the other torso... it has actual options. The 733 is an interesting missile boat.

The Griffin has nothing, literally.

[ColonelMetus]

sounds like some one is just sitting at work (prolly 7/11 or am pm) mad that i can afford 110 dollars on phoenix/saber. and they cant afford that so instead they hate on it and call it stupid or surat

Deathlike, on 08 December 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

Well, the Highlander does have missiles on the other torso... it has actual options. The 733 is an interesting missile boat.

The Griffin has nothing, literally.

it has AMS and can still stand near allies to protect them from missiles, thats not nothing, but you probably dont understand team play

[Deathlike]

ColonelMetus, on 08 December 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

sounds like some one is just sitting at work (prolly 7/11 or am pm) mad that i can afford 110 dollars on phoenix/saber. and they cant afford that so instead they hate on it and call it stupid or surat

It's not about the money... it's just not that intriguing or interesting.

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it has AMS and can still stand near allies to protect them from missiles, thats not nothing, but you probably dont understand team play

AMS still has been unimportant to me since the "LRM dive bombing bug" was fixed.

Also, learning to find/use cover is so much easier to benefit from, most of the time.

Besides, spotting for teammates is not that hard in a light.

Edited by Deathlike, 08 December 2013 - 08:26 PM.

[Escef]

ColonelMetus, on 08 December 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

4th.... what war? the french have fled like cowards from litterally dozens of them so its assinine to simply say "the war"

Do some research on how many wars the French have been in. And in how many of them their forces ate lives as readily as any other.

20th Century-wise, yes, WWII and Vietnam are big standouts as French loses. But the French have tangled with the Brits and Germans repeatedly, giving as good as they got most of the time.

Edited by Escef, 08 December 2013 - 08:59 PM.

[MonkeyCheese]

116kph is nothing new, other mediums can reach that speed or near it and the cent9D to 140kph. If you are in a light slower than 140-170 than you are either in an old slow raven build or you are doing it completely wrong.

Only lights who blindly run in without inspecting loadouts get done in 1v1 vs streak boats with my team 10-12 thanks to disconnects. Example - Just before I was in my DK and identified 2 4ssrm2 oxides on the other team so I kept off their field of view and out of range and focused on the bigger mechs with my team until we all chased the jenners and won.