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#1 Rebas Kradd

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:07 PM

Doubtless taking advantage of the upsurge of people taking mediums lately.

Sadly enough, it's working, because nobody wants to play the role mediums are assigned. Sprint and swarm, use your speed to your advantage, is that role. Unfortunately, no role except direct combat is really incentivized in the game right now, so nobody is interested in it. Therefore mediums (which could still use some incentivization themselves) will find themselves mostly in a combat role that suits them ill, and these awesome sales and contests that are obviously meant to promote mediums will only go so far.

Mediums: all I can say is, use what speed you have to your advantage. Meaning, do some capping, swarm and engage one target at a time (that means ignore others). Let's get the most out of these things.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:14 PM

"Vs the World" includes premades full of Assaults.

Edited by Biglead, 28 February 2014 - 04:15 PM.


#3 Rebas Kradd

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:17 PM

View PostBiglead, on 28 February 2014 - 04:14 PM, said:

"Vs the World" includes premades full of Assaults.


My point was that "mediums vs the world" does not exactly work right now. ;)

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:20 PM

these tourneys are always tough going because of this ;)

Would be nice to have a solo que only for the tourney that forces you to pug.

Edited by Colonel Pada Vinson, 28 February 2014 - 04:20 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:20 PM

View PostRebas Kradd, on 28 February 2014 - 04:07 PM, said:

Doubtless taking advantage of the upsurge of people taking mediums lately.

Sadly enough, it's working, because nobody wants to play the role mediums are assigned. Sprint and swarm, use your speed to your advantage, is that role. Unfortunately, no role except direct combat is really incentivized in the game right now, so nobody is interested in it. Therefore mediums (which could still use some incentivization themselves) will find themselves mostly in a combat role that suits them ill, and these awesome sales and contests that are obviously meant to promote mediums will only go so far.

Mediums: all I can say is, use what speed you have to your advantage. Meaning, do some capping, swarm and engage one target at a time (that means ignore others). Let's get the most out of these things.

View PostRebas Kradd, on 28 February 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:


My point was that "mediums vs the world" does not exactly work right now. ;)


Medium mechs have their moments.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:31 PM

View PostRebas Kradd, on 28 February 2014 - 04:07 PM, said:

Doubtless taking advantage of the upsurge of people taking mediums lately.

Sadly enough, it's working, because nobody wants to play the role mediums are assigned. Sprint and swarm, use your speed to your advantage, is that role. Unfortunately, no role except direct combat is really incentivized in the game right now, so nobody is interested in it. Therefore mediums (which could still use some incentivization themselves) will find themselves mostly in a combat role that suits them ill, and these awesome sales and contests that are obviously meant to promote mediums will only go so far.

Mediums: all I can say is, use what speed you have to your advantage. Meaning, do some capping, swarm and engage one target at a time (that means ignore others). Let's get the most out of these things.



Your post has ZERO talk about the "ATLAS", I wanted more more QQ..... rate it a 1 1/2 stars out of 10.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:34 PM

View PostSLDF LawDog, on 28 February 2014 - 04:31 PM, said:



Your post has ZERO talk about the "ATLAS", I wanted more more QQ..... rate it a 1 1/2 stars out of 10.


Well, if it's any consolation, I still get shivers when I round a corner to find an Atlas waiting for me.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:02 PM

View PostSteelgrave, on 28 February 2014 - 04:34 PM, said:


Well, if it's any consolation, I still get shivers when I round a corner to find an Atlas waiting for me.


The TOPIC of his post was about the ATLAS. He went on a RANT about everything., BUT the ATLAS.

It was (Mediums QQ, Medium QQ..............).

#9 Rebas Kradd

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:27 PM

View PostSLDF LawDog, on 28 February 2014 - 05:02 PM, said:


The TOPIC of his post was about the ATLAS. He went on a RANT about everything., BUT the ATLAS.

It was (Mediums QQ, Medium QQ..............).


Well, these premades that I see do in fact contain 3 DDCs a lot of the time.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:30 PM

I think it has more to do with soon as PGI introduces their new launch module you will never see them again.

It is a matter of use it before you lose it.

#11 Willard Phule

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:45 PM

View PostRebas Kradd, on 28 February 2014 - 04:07 PM, said:

Doubtless taking advantage of the upsurge of people taking mediums lately.

Sadly enough, it's working, because nobody wants to play the role mediums are assigned. Sprint and swarm, use your speed to your advantage, is that role. Unfortunately, no role except direct combat is really incentivized in the game right now, so nobody is interested in it. Therefore mediums (which could still use some incentivization themselves) will find themselves mostly in a combat role that suits them ill, and these awesome sales and contests that are obviously meant to promote mediums will only go so far.

Mediums: all I can say is, use what speed you have to your advantage. Meaning, do some capping, swarm and engage one target at a time (that means ignore others). Let's get the most out of these things.


Tough crap. The matchmaker places teams based on Elo...not tonnage or weight class. Deal with it. Enjoy the roflstomp. Bend over and take what it gives you, without any lube.

#12 Rebas Kradd

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:41 PM

View PostWillard Phule, on 28 February 2014 - 05:45 PM, said:


Tough crap. The matchmaker places teams based on Elo...not tonnage or weight class. Deal with it. Enjoy the roflstomp. Bend over and take what it gives you, without any lube.


You are all going to be surprised at how little tonnage matching does to change that,

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:50 PM

View PostRebas Kradd, on 28 February 2014 - 04:07 PM, said:

Doubtless taking advantage of the upsurge of people taking mediums lately.

Sadly enough, it's working, because nobody wants to play the role mediums are assigned. Sprint and swarm, use your speed to your advantage, is that role. Unfortunately, no role except direct combat is really incentivized in the game right now, so nobody is interested in it. Therefore mediums (which could still use some incentivization themselves) will find themselves mostly in a combat role that suits them ill, and these awesome sales and contests that are obviously meant to promote mediums will only go so far.

Mediums: all I can say is, use what speed you have to your advantage. Meaning, do some capping, swarm and engage one target at a time (that means ignore others). Let's get the most out of these things.


I made an elite Centi D with an XL370, 2 MPL's, 2MG's, and 2 SSRM's.

Hit, and more importantly, run.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 07:08 PM

View PostRebas Kradd, on 28 February 2014 - 06:41 PM, said:

You are all going to be surprised at how little tonnage matching does to change that,


Meh. You never know. Yeah sometimes the lighter team wins but there's a dev post in one of the matchmaker threads where they say, yeah the heavier team is more likely to win, with the greater the weight disparity the better the chance that the heavier team wins.

I think worst case with 3-3-3-3 there's a 195 ton difference in the teams which is a hundred tons lighter than the worst match I've personally encountered.

Edited by Sug, 28 February 2014 - 07:09 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2014 - 10:50 AM

View PostRebas Kradd, on 28 February 2014 - 04:07 PM, said:

Doubtless taking advantage of the upsurge of people taking mediums lately.

Sadly enough, it's working, because nobody wants to play the role mediums are assigned. Sprint and swarm, use your speed to your advantage, is that role. Unfortunately, no role except direct combat is really incentivized in the game right now, so nobody is interested in it. Therefore mediums (which could still use some incentivization themselves) will find themselves mostly in a combat role that suits them ill, and these awesome sales and contests that are obviously meant to promote mediums will only go so far.

Mediums: all I can say is, use what speed you have to your advantage. Meaning, do some capping, swarm and engage one target at a time (that means ignore others). Let's get the most out of these things.

you forgot the most important part of being a medium..... don't leave the assaults behind. its why you loose.

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 11:04 AM

I am seeing a rash huge fail with the ELO and MM system this weekend. AS if they turned it off. I have been teamed with people that do not know what grouping is or English for that matter.

It's like they are all from Poland and nobody has a clue.

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 12:03 PM

View PostSteelgrave, on 28 February 2014 - 04:20 PM, said:


Medium mechs have their moments.

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Takes a bunch of courage to post a pic that you died in. You do have a lot to be happy about though. That was a heck of a run! :) :ph34r:

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 06:11 AM

View PostRebas Kradd, on 28 February 2014 - 04:07 PM, said:

Doubtless taking advantage of the upsurge of people taking mediums lately.

Sadly enough, it's working, because nobody wants to play the role mediums are assigned. Sprint and swarm, use your speed to your advantage, is that role. Unfortunately, no role except direct combat is really incentivized in the game right now, so nobody is interested in it. Therefore mediums (which could still use some incentivization themselves) will find themselves mostly in a combat role that suits them ill, and these awesome sales and contests that are obviously meant to promote mediums will only go so far.

Mediums: all I can say is, use what speed you have to your advantage. Meaning, do some capping, swarm and engage one target at a time (that means ignore others). Let's get the most out of these things.


A big part of the problem may be that P.G.I. is not encouraging the players to fill their roles--nor are players actually doing the research on what their roles are in certain 'mechs or weight classes. If players can play their 'mech's outside of their weight-class or design roles, great, but there is a reason 'mechs have roles in the first place. I think certain 'mechs would be A LOT more effective if they were actually played to their specific role; their specific strengths.

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 06:34 AM

View PostIskareot, on 01 March 2014 - 11:04 AM, said:

I am seeing a rash huge fail with the ELO and MM system this weekend. AS if they turned it off. I have been teamed with people that do not know what grouping is or English for that matter.

It's like they are all from Poland and nobody has a clue.


Dude I live in the Atlantic Time Zone, that's east of Boston... yes I know but there really are places east of Boston. Living in that time zone I sometimes get on early in the mornings and do some pugging. 9 am for me it close to 3 pm in Berlin. needless to say I have dropped with many European pilots and I have to report that European Pilots have a very different play style than NA Pilots. If you are not used to dropping with them it can really mess you up because of how different they actually do things because it's the lone NA pilot who doesn't have a clue when thrown into a large group with them.

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 06:57 AM

View PostSteelgrave, on 28 February 2014 - 04:34 PM, said:


Well, if it's any consolation, I still get shivers when I round a corner to find an Atlas waiting for me.

I think I turned your mech into a steel grave that way at least once.





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