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[Ronin Cahill]

simple questions before I purchase the clan mech packs.


1. are they Omni mechs..ie no wpn restrictions on hardpoints, jjets for any you wish to place them on and no engine cap.

2. if they are truly Omni why do we need 3 variants.

3. are clan weapons and tech actually better as thy are supposed to be..or did the devs balance them to make them actually no better than IS gear.

these need to be answered before anyone should buy those stupidly expensive packs, who on earth would pay that kind of cash if the mechs are not any superior . and tech.

Ronin

[spectralthundr]

Yeah I don't know what they're smoking or what size their balls are at this point. But No DX11, no CW, no UI 2.0. None of the proposed features we were shown 2 years ago. 500 dollars for a gold skin???? LOL

I have defended you PGI, but what the hell is this?

[Sable Hawk]

Omni is omni.

Or is there a jacked version that limited the amount of a type of weapon but not the location?
Ex. limited to 5 energy weapons that can be mounted anywhere on the mech?

[CDLord HHGD]

Dat Cat!

Edited by cdlord, 13 December 2013 - 06:52 PM.

[Teshtube]

Ronin Cahill, on 13 December 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

simple questions before I purchase the clan mech packs.


1. are they Omni mechs..ie no wpn restrictions on hardpoints, jjets for any you wish to place them on and no engine cap.

2. if they are truly Omni why do we need 3 variants.

3. are clan weapons and tech actually better as thy are supposed to be..or did the devs balance them to make them actually no better than IS gear.

these need to be answered before anyone should buy those stupidly expensive packs, who on earth would pay that kind of cash if the mechs are not any superior . and tech.

Ronin

while i understand you wanting all of these,
from gameplay balance perspective it would be very hard for them to make these mech fair if this was the case,
however i have no doubt that they have found a way to make these mechs unique in a way,

that being said i have heard some people suggest ways this can still be a thing,
such as different variants having different engines (unchangeable as part of balance) or space in the parts (as in more arm actuators (not actually them but things like them) thus making each variant have different amount of space in each of the parts, allowing each of them to have different builds,

idk, i guess we have to wait and see

spectralthundr, on 13 December 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

Yeah I don't know what they're smoking or what size their balls are at this point. But No DX11, no CW, no UI 2.0. None of the proposed features we were shown 2 years ago. 500 dollars for a gold skin???? LOL

I have defended you PGI, but what the hell is this?

well not only do we know all of those are very close, the 500 skin is not meant to be for everyone, that is literally just for people who want to support them and get somthing very unique for it,
i dont feel like im remotely missing out on somthing for not getting one, i personally wouldnt even want a gold mech lol
for those its simply dont like it, dont buy it.

that being said, at first glance i though the pack prices were horrible, but it seems to be 30 bucks a mech, which honestly isnt that bad, i just wish we could choose which mechs we wanted in our pack

Edited by Set Tesh, 13 December 2013 - 05:15 PM.

[Lord Perversor]

cdlord, on 13 December 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

What?

this http://www.mwomercs.com/clans a pitty there is not a Vulture i'm a Sad panda today

[Belorion]

They are a touch pricey.

[Orion ji]

bawahaha @ all the fools before me who bought this [redacted]. Fun game, but their business model was created by the lowest [redacted] on the planet...or any planet for that matter.

GG PGI ...GG.

Ima go back to Star Conflict now...see you guys there! They know how to keep customers happy, maintain balance and have created the most epic (space)gameplay ever...for the price(which is f2p btw:))

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 14 December 2013 - 12:08 PM.

[Jolly Llama]

I will not be buying this package until we have UI 2.0 on live servers and promises singed in dev blood that CWis going live in a week.

And under no ******* circumstances will I pay $500 for a gold mech. Talk about a shiny ****...

[spectralthundr]

geodeath, on 13 December 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

I will not be buying this package until we have UI 2.0 on live servers and promises singed in dev blood that CWis going live in a week.

And under no ******* circumstances will I pay $500 for a gold mech. Talk about a shiny ****...

This ^^^^ between a gold founders pack, an overlord phoenix pack, and a bit on MC and hero mechs, it's time to start delivering on some of the promises before they get any more of my money. C'mon PGI/IGP we all have limits.

[NoSkillRush]

calm down people i am sure this is just a joke.

[Death By Pancakes]

Right now it's called their clan mech sale, soon it will be called their going out of business sale

[Smegmw]

AOL died because of the give us more money/subscribers business model PGI/IGP will too.

[Orion ji]

oh wait! Will my PGI GOLD package come with a cd(or 1000) in the mail? You know, the one we alll used as college coasters for our cheap beers. LOL!!

[FupDup]

Oh my god those things are FUCKlNG EXPENSIVE.

[Belorion]

Orion ji, on 13 December 2013 - 05:15 PM, said:

bawahaha @ all the fools before me who bought this pos. Fun game, but their business model was created by the lowest fuktards on the planet...or any planet for that matter.

GG PGI ...GG.

Ima go back to Star Conflict now...see you guys there! They know how to keep customers happy, maintain balance and have created the most epic (space)gameplay ever...for the price(which is f2p btw:))

Actually it looks like they are taking a page from the SC rule book. Charge ridiculous prices for something that doesn't exist.

[Bishop Steiner]

Ronin Cahill, on 13 December 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

simple questions before I purchase the clan mech packs.


1. are they Omni mechs..ie no wpn restrictions on hardpoints, jjets for any you wish to place them on and no engine cap.

2. if they are truly Omni why do we need 3 variants.

3. are clan weapons and tech actually better as thy are supposed to be..or did the devs balance them to make them actually no better than IS gear.

these need to be answered before anyone should buy those stupidly expensive packs, who on earth would pay that kind of cash if the mechs are not any superior . and tech.

Ronin

be careful what you wish for. If they are TRUE Omnis, you can weapon swap to your hearts content, but the engines, structure and armor is static.

Also, Paul, John, George and Ringo stated long ago that they were going to re-imagine a lot of the weapons, one for better game play balance, but also because they wanted them to actually fit the mythos of the Clans better, something that even the Product Line developers for the TT game openly say needed to be done.

Since they are apparently not going to be in seperate locked queues, they have to make some balance factors, since enforcing numeric superiority seems to be a no go. Make it open season and you just wasted the last 32 years of design work.

Careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

[Viges]

Omni? THEY ARE GOLD!!!

[Damia Savon]

Ronin Cahill, on 13 December 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

simple questions before I purchase the clan mech packs.


1. are they Omni mechs..ie no wpn restrictions on hardpoints, jjets for any you wish to place them on and no engine cap.

2. if they are truly Omni why do we need 3 variants.

3. are clan weapons and tech actually better as thy are supposed to be..or did the devs balance them to make them actually no better than IS gear.

these need to be answered before anyone should buy those stupidly expensive packs, who on earth would pay that kind of cash if the mechs are not any superior . and tech.

Ronin

Well I will be surprised if they are truly overpowered compared to the existing mechs.

No offense to those who want super Clan mechs but do you really want new mechs that make all the ones people have spent time and money on utterly obsolete and noncompetitive?

[Mr David]

Lets face it, everyone with a Phoenix badge next to their name is probably going to buy at least up to the Daishi, and probably all the way to the Mad Cat or Masakari no matter the level of Omni or differentiation. The gold mechs are only for people who want recognition or basically donate to PGI, not for 99.9% of us, which is fine. The Daishi pack is nearly identical to the Overlord, which was considered by most to be a good purchase even with the Thud and Locust. Anyone thinking buying clan mechs means clicking the easy button will be dissappointed. Any advantage or disadvantage upon launch will get adjusted within a few months, as it should be for the balance of the game. I would actually welcome the locked engine and armor as a compromise for unlimited weapons customization. It would make playing clan mechs a different experience from IS mechs with completely different strategies. What I do like though is the hints of what is to come given by the details of the clan pack purchase.

Airhorns will likely mean everyone with them will have the ability to sound off on a kill like a Heavy Metal. Unique module slots mean that by launch, unique mech abilities will be implemented across the board. Custom titles was something for UI 2.0 and not possible with the current UI, meaning it must be in place by the Clan launch. I know optimism is not an emotion often shown on this forum, for good reason sometimes, but I think we can actually have some for this. PGI has been improving things at an increasing rate for the past several months. The sky-is-falling mentality of forum posters is mind boggling sometimes.