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[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Calling out friendly locations is a banable offence!

In-Game Exploits/griefing

Team Treason:
"Treasonous provision of information to enemy combatants, also known as "bird-doging" is forbidden. This involves a player using the in-game chat to provide the enemy team with the locations of their own team mates. While we appreciate that some players may wish to have a round end early by calling out the location of an AFK team-mate, the risk that this could be used against an active participant of the match to deny them the use of cover and movement makes this a form of a griefing. You may declare a teammate AFK but not their coordinates or position." -Niko Snow

I think the devs should shut off global chat for all dead pilots untill the match is over. They can chat with their team just not the enemy team.

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 18 December 2013 - 10:32 PM.

[luxebo]

Although I have never had a power down/light hunt game so far with Skirmish, I personally think that there should be adjustments to this gamemode, like maybe a position marker every 30 sec the enemy goes when there is only one enemy left, or maybe sudden boundaries set inside the map so no hiding.

[Captain Stiffy]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 18 December 2013 - 10:29 PM, said:

Calling out friendly locations is a banable offence!

Also it's been said again and again that it's not illegal or against anything to hide when you have no hope of victory.

It's against the rule to just go hide and do nothing. But if you fight and then hide when you are going to lose that's legal.

It also makes sense as KDR is a tracked stat.

Also it's usually easy on most maps to split up and find them. Some not so much tho.

Edited by Captain Stiffy, 18 December 2013 - 10:51 PM.

[Rhent]

Skirmish is an awesome mode. If you are the last mech for your team and can run 150 and the other team has only heavies and lights, you can troll them for 10 minutes. Its awesome you get to troll your own team mates and lock their mechs down. The game developers create a great mode for griefers. Glad to see the OP is making a point to call out how when he's griefing that people are calling out his location and spoiling his fun.

[Captain Stiffy]

It is a test of a gaming platform (in this case MWO) to have it targeted by people who are experienced in considering the griefing mindset.

The easier it is for them, generally, the crappier the system you will find. A well designed system does not lend itself well to being exploited.

Valve is practiced at this by now.

[Rhent]

I've already posted how to fix Skirmish. All they have to do is when they are down to 1 mech vs 3+ mechs, that if the single mech doesn't do at least 1 point of damage every 30 seconds, the game ends and the larger team wins.

I've turned off skirmish now due to griefing eating my time.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Captain Stiffy, on 18 December 2013 - 10:43 PM, said:

Also it's been said again and again that it's not illegal or against anything to hide when you have no hope of victory.

It's against the rule to just go hide and do nothing. But if you fight and then hide when you are going to lose that's legal.

It also makes sense as KDR is a tracked stat.

Also it's usually easy on most maps to split up and find them. Some not so much tho.

LOL non participation rule again. You’re reading into it and adding your own rules.

If a mech has dmg, kills, assists. They participated. The rule says nothing about "no hope of victory"

You have NO IDEA if a light is looking for an opening, looking for the most dmg enemy, trying to spit the enemy up. Either way, report them because you’re going to get reported. I can see it now. You to PGI... but bbuuut they did something I did not like first. PGI to you, two wrongs don’t make a right you should have reported them have a nice vacation.

[GRiPSViGiL]

If you are not prepared to be in game for the full 15 minutes...do not drop. The team with the most mechs alive wins if the timer runs out.

[Captain Stiffy]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 18 December 2013 - 11:02 PM, said:

LOL non participation rule again. You’re reading into it and adding your own rules.

If a mech has dmg, kills, assists. They participated. The rule says nothing about "no hope of victory"

You have NO IDEA if a light is looking for an opening, looking for the most dmg enemy, trying to spit the enemy up. Either way, report them because you’re going to get reported. I can see it now. You to PGI... but bbuuut they did something I did not like first. PGI to you, two wrongs don’t make a right you should have reported them have a nice vacation.

No. I can't find it right now but this very day there was a mod posting about it.

If you hide without fighting that is illegal. Hiding when the fight is over and having done damage is not. Period.

It's been gone over again and again and again.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Stif, im not arguing with you. Ill just report you if i see it. have a nice day

Rhent, on 18 December 2013 - 10:59 PM, said:

I've already posted how to fix Skirmish. All they have to do is when they are down to 1 mech vs 3+ mechs, that if the single mech doesn't do at least 1 point of damage every 30 seconds, the game ends and the larger team wins.

I've turned off skirmish now due to griefing eating my time.

luxebo, on 18 December 2013 - 10:40 PM, said:

Although I have never had a power down/light hunt game so far with Skirmish, I personally think that there should be adjustments to this gamemode, like maybe a position marker every 30 sec the enemy goes when there is only one enemy left, or maybe sudden boundaries set inside the map so no hiding.

No just no.
The matches are set for 15 minutes. If you don’t/can’t wait 15 minutes OR go play a match in your other mech. That’s your problem!

GRiPSViGiL, on 18 December 2013 - 11:04 PM, said:

If you are not prepared to be in game for the full 15 minutes...do not drop. The team with the most mechs alive wins if the timer runs out.

<---This. END OF STORY!

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 18 December 2013 - 11:11 PM.

[Alex Warden]

GRiPSViGiL, on 18 December 2013 - 11:04 PM, said:

If you are not prepared to be in game for the full 15 minutes...do not drop. The team with the most mechs alive wins if the timer runs out.

qft

[GRiPSViGiL]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 18 December 2013 - 11:02 PM, said:

LOL non participation rule again. You’re reading into it and adding your own rules.

If a mech has dmg, kills, assists. They participated. The rule says nothing about "no hope of victory"

You have NO IDEA if a light is looking for an opening, looking for the most dmg enemy, trying to spit the enemy up. Either way, report them because you’re going to get reported. I can see it now. You to PGI... but bbuuut they did something I did not like first. PGI to you, two wrongs don’t make a right you should have reported them have a nice vacation.

He isn't making up a rule. Last post by Egomane gives the exact PGI stance:

http://mwomercs.com/...on/page__st__20

If you engage and then hide, it is perfectly fine.

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 18 December 2013 - 11:06 PM, said:

Stif, im not arguing with you. Ill just report you if i see it. have a nice day

LOL, and your report will be discarded.

Edited by GRiPSViGiL, 18 December 2013 - 11:13 PM.

[Bobdolemite]

The only time ive seen this went as follows:

both teams fight to near death (approx 8-9 mins), the end result 4 vs 1 - all of our team (4) were heavily damaged

we chased for about 5 mins total splitting up to scour the whole map

At this point the enemy team called out the position of the lone survivor

He was a nearly fresh Misery sitting powered down amid some terrain

It still took time to kill the sand-bagger (clock was very close) (no clue HTF he got up there in the first place lol)

I would say in situations where someone is being a [redacted] for the sake of wasting everyone's time then your within your rights to report their location in general. Powering down in a crater and walking away from the computer is not a valid tactic =/

///

Despite this 1 match the majority of Skirmish ive played have been fun (the random tool seems to be a low occurrence)

Edited by Bobdolemite, 18 December 2013 - 11:14 PM.

[YueFei]

Some people just really have no patience. I have won a few matches when it's 3v1 or 4v1. I don't give up. Most of the time I still lose, but once every 4 or 5 matches, I manage to finish what my team started because those last few enemies are all banged up, and grab the win for my team. But to pull it out of the hat I need time and distance. Sometimes it means I have to break off and run the other way for a while, so I can sneak back in from an unexpected angle. But I'm always trying to win the match for my team. If someone doesn't appreciate that and gives away my position, well, he takes our odds of winning from slim to none. Just lets me know which players are quitters.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

GRiPSViGiL, on 18 December 2013 - 11:11 PM, said:

He isn't making up a rule. Last post by Egomane gives the exact PGI stance:

http://mwomercs.com/...on/page__st__20

If you engage and then hide, it is perfectly fine.


LOL, and your report will be discarded.

Then why are you arguing with me? LMAO!!!
Here is my 2nd post

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 18 December 2013 - 11:02 PM, said:

LOL non participation rule again. You’re reading into it and adding your own rules.

If a mech has dmg, kills, assists. They participated. The rule says nothing about "no hope of victory"

so no my report will not be discarded if someone takes part in team treason.

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 18 December 2013 - 11:20 PM.

[GRiPSViGiL]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 18 December 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

Then why are you arguing with me? LMAO!!!
Here is my 2nd post


so no my report will not be discarded if someone takes part in team treason.

My apologies....I got the impression you were on the counter side of the argument. I think you and Stiff were on the same side of the argument as well.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

If some ******* powers down, I will call him out.

KDR is a worthless EPEEN stat that only makes special's happy about their poor performance,
and are you REALLY going to waste 8 minutes shutdown b/c you don't want to die in a match you are clearly losing?


How about, gfys

Edited by mwhighlander, 18 December 2013 - 11:28 PM.

[luxebo]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 18 December 2013 - 11:06 PM, said:

No just no.
The matches are set for 15 minutes. If you don’t/can’t wait 15 minutes OR go play a match in your other mech. That’s your problem!

I can wait 15 minutes. I'm just suggesting potential ways the match will end faster. Plus, many matches are long-lasting, up to maybe 5-1 minutes left on the clock. I've actually hit a few draws. I'm not trying to argue with you, but I'm saying this mode is still under progress as it seems. PGI would probably change some rules and stuff.

mwhighlander, on 18 December 2013 - 11:27 PM, said:

If some ******* powers down, I will call him out.

KDR is a worthless EPEEN stat that only makes special's happy about their poor performance,
and are you REALLY going to waste 8 minutes shutdown b/c you don't want to die in a match you are clearly losing?

How about, gfys

I wouldn't call him out, but I would tell the guy to try for another kill or two, maybe potentially winning. Otherwise I'll leave. Not worth a suspension of calling one another out.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

mwhighlander said:

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If some ******* powers down, I will call him out.

[color=black]KDR[/color] is a worthless [color=black]EPEEN[/color] stat that only makes special's happy about their poor performance,
and are you REALLY going to waste 8 minutes shutdown b/c you don't want to die in a match you are clearly losing?


How about, [color=black]gfys[/color]

you go into a match KNOWING its a 15 minute match!
If KDR is worthless to you, fine. The guy your calling out thinks otherwise and if your not paying his mech bills you truly have no leg to stand on when telling others there KDR is worthless.
Please call me out when Im last standing and looking to split the enemy or go in for sneak attacks and actually win and not get blow up. Ill take joy in reporting you.

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 18 December 2013 - 11:37 PM.

[Captain Stiffy]

In this mode you should be able to pop a flare and suicide. Fixes everything.