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[3CLIPZ3]

Hey guys I need some help picking a new Setup to play MWO on Max settings. From my research I have concluded that MWO is more CPU than GPU driven so going with a good processor is more important than the graphic card (correct me if im wrong) any advice would be very much appreciated. I am trying to get the best bang for my buck and (don't need the best of the best for an extra 5-10 FPS)

Here are the few choices I am currently looking at:

$800 Used Alienware Desktop: Older Processor but good graphics card.

http://vancouver.en....4181878450.html

$899-$1,199 New From Dell:

http://www.dell.com/...del_id=xps-8700

http://www.dell.com/...del_id=xps-8700

$999,-$1,299 Boxing sale new computers from NCIX:

http://pc.ncix.com/n...F52E40D-5541397

http://pc.ncix.com/n...D0DCC23-5541415

Build my own NCIX: $1162.72

-Intel Core i7 3770 http://www.ncix.com/...ucts/?sku=70539
-Bitfenix Prodigy mITX Mini-ITX http://www.ncix.com/...43&promoid=1051
-EVGA GeForce GTX760 http://www.ncix.com/...49&promoid=1051
-ADATA SX900 2.5" 128GB SSD http://www.ncix.com/...79&promoid=1051
-Thermaltake TR2500W Power http://www.ncix.com/...55&promoid=1051
-Noctua NH-D14 http://www.ncix.com/...ucts/?sku=64540
-ASUS P8G61-I R2.0 mITX http://www.ncix.com/...ucts/?sku=75617
-Memory: http://www.ncix.com/...36&promoid=1051
-Windows 7 Home Premium 64

Edited by 3CLIPZ3, 27 December 2013 - 04:52 PM.

[valt901]

You can also look at ibuypower.com and cyberpowerpc.com. these places make gaming desktops, although most are liquid cooled and i don't know the quality/reliability of liquid cooled units. I also can't vouch for the quality of the product because i don't own one although i have been looking to upgrade myself and these places are on my look at list.

[nungunz]

Honestly I'd suggest just buying all the parts off of a website like NewEgg.com and just building you own computer. It's much cheaper, gets you very familiar with the system, and easy to do.

There are a ton of great tutorials (newegg has a fantastic one on youtube) out there to help out.

[Cyberiad]

You can get an Xeon E3 for cheaper. It's an i7 except without the Intel GMA. Saves power and better for thermal since there are no unused components soaking up clock voltage. Or if you want to be a badass you could get the E5 which has twice the memory bandwidth of an i7 lol...

Edited by SiliconLife, 27 December 2013 - 06:48 PM.

[3CLIPZ3]

nobody likes the NCIX one I built?

[Egomane]

Moving you over to our hardware forums.

Edit: Either I'm blind or your NCIX build is missing a PSU.
Edit2: Yes, I'm blind... found it!

Edited by Egomane, 28 December 2013 - 03:36 AM.

[Sen]

the NCIX prebuilt machines aren't bad. The self-built. . there's really not much point to going with a soon-to-be-phased out socket, plus the price on ivy really isn't significantly lower than haswell. Overclocking? Yes, ivy runs hot, haswell runs a little hotter, but you won't see any huge real world gains between 4.0 and 4.4 anyway.

Lastly,

You might consider Windows 8 vs Windows 7. I know a lot of people JUST CAN'T live without the start menu, but there really are a lot of under the hood performance improvements that make it worth considering. It's a much more EFFICIENT operating system than 7 [once you get used to it].

Just a thought.

Edited by Sen, 28 December 2013 - 06:27 AM.

[Durant Carlyle]

3CLIPZ3, on 27 December 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

Build my own NCIX: $1162.72

-Intel Core i7 3770 http://www.ncix.com/...ucts/?sku=70539
-Bitfenix Prodigy mITX Mini-ITX http://www.ncix.com/...43&promoid=1051
-EVGA GeForce GTX760 http://www.ncix.com/...49&promoid=1051
-ADATA SX900 2.5" 128GB SSD http://www.ncix.com/...79&promoid=1051
-Thermaltake TR2500W Power http://www.ncix.com/...55&promoid=1051
-Noctua NH-D14 http://www.ncix.com/...ucts/?sku=64540
-ASUS P8G61-I R2.0 mITX http://www.ncix.com/...ucts/?sku=75617
-Memory: http://www.ncix.com/...36&promoid=1051
-Windows 7 Home Premium 64

3CLIPZ3, on 28 December 2013 - 03:24 AM, said:

nobody likes the NCIX one I built?

The self-build system is fine, except for one thing -- you chose a non-overclockable CPU, and that Noctua cooler is going to waste. You need the K version of the CPU to overclock.

I would also recommend going with a 4770K CPU and Z87 mainboard, just for the extra few percentage points of performance since the game is so CPU bound.

Sen, on 28 December 2013 - 06:12 AM, said:

You might consider Windows 8 vs Windows 7. I know a lot of people JUST CAN'T live without the start menu, but there really are a lot of under the hood performance improvements that make it worth considering. It's a much more EFFICIENT operating system than 7 [once you get used to it].

Yep. Plus, you can make Windows 8 exactly like Windows 7 by using a program like Classic Shell or Start8 or others. Those programs give Windows 8 the Start button, the full Start menu, and they can turn off all of the app/touch "features" you don't need. All of the improved performance without all of the useless non-desktop stuff.

Edited by Durant Carlyle, 28 December 2013 - 11:45 AM.

[TB Freelancer]

Strangely enough the 4770k is $70 cheaper than the 3770k as of right now on ncix

Edited by TB Freelancer, 29 December 2013 - 04:43 AM.

[Barbaric Soul]

Here, save yourself $300- http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2odAK

[Sen]

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All of the improved performance without all of the useless non-desktop stuff

For the record, having TuneIn radio and Netflix apps alone make the start screen worth it.

Just sayin'

Edited by Sen, 29 December 2013 - 07:06 AM.

[3CLIPZ3]

I've decided to go with the i5 4670k and either a GTX 760,770. I wonder will this be enough to hit a 70-80 fps on max settings like this guy or do i need a 780 as well? (with the updated 12v12 unlike the video)
thanks so far for all the advice.

Edited by 3CLIPZ3, 02 January 2014 - 03:17 AM.

[NuclearPanda]

I have a GTX760 (upgraded from a 460) and it's definitely a great card. Should have no issues at all with it.

[Sen]

the 760 is a mid range card and should do alright with MwO.
The 770 is a reasonable improvement over the 760.
the 780 is probably overkill.
the 780ti is a complete waste of money, but worth each and every single penny.

[Xorak]

You should build your own system. You've looked at enough configurations to have a good idea what you want. Assembling the parts really is not difficult. Installing the OS is very easy too.

I have an older i5-750 overclocked to 3.8 ghz with turbo disabled. It's got 8gb of RAM, and a 7970. I run max settings at 1080p. Post processing is off because it reduces visibility at a distance. I don't think the frame rate ever dips into the 30's, or if it does, only the mid to high 30's. Either way, it does not slow down noticeably.. I upgraded to the 7970 from a 5870, and that was not running max settings and still slowed down a bit in combat. It is a little slower than a 760, but not much. I suggest getting a GTX 770 or a 7970 / R9 280X or better for max settings at 1080p.

I use Windows 7, and cannot comment on 8.

[xWiredx]

For reference, my system gets consistently 60-85fps (using F9 in-game, max in-game graphics settings) and is less powerful hardware. I'm running an i7 2600K (4.8GhZ currently, 5.1GhZ stable on a Corsair H50) and a Galaxy GC GTX 660Ti 2GB. With the hardware you picked you will be fine. When DX11 comes in full effect I will no doubt have to make a few small quality sacrifices, but this is a really good baseline. If you have faster stuff in your system you should be happy with this game for the foreseeable future.

[Deathsiege]

I recommend cyberpower as well. I got a great desktop system for $1K and they threw in all kinds of freebies like lighted box and keyboard and free shipping.

[PictishWolf]

Sen, on 28 December 2013 - 06:12 AM, said:

You might consider Windows 8 vs Windows 7. I know a lot of people JUST CAN'T live without the start menu, but there really are a lot of under the hood performance improvements that make it worth considering. It's a much more EFFICIENT operating system than 7 [once you get used to it].

If you want the best of both worlds, I recommend a program called "startisback". It lets you restore the start menu and other Windows 7 stuff to Windows 8. When I got it, it was $3 for 1 license or $5 for 3 licenses. Its setup is very intuitive. I opted to leave some of the Windows 8 additions enabled but you can make it look and act exactly like Windows 7 if you want. It even has a few options that are new and improvements on Windows 7's UI.

Check it out. If you don't like it, I know that there are several other options available that do similar things but this one works perfectly for me.

Edit: Sorry, was in a hurry and hadn't read the whole thread. Durant Carlysle's reply didn't include startisback, though, so still good info.

Edited by PictishWolf, 02 January 2014 - 11:12 AM.

[3CLIPZ3]

Okay I bought my new rig today here it is for $1,527.00 after tax

-i5 4670k
-Asus Z87-K
-16GB DDR3-1600 Memory
-120 GB SSD SATA
-1TB WD SATA
-LG DVDRW
-Asus 780 GTX (Yolo right?)
-Thermaltake Commander MS-I Snow Edition White w/600W P.S.U
-Windows 7
-1 Yr Parts+Labour Warranty

Yes 780 GTX Might be overkill but at least I won't have to upgrade GPU for long time and I can never complain I should have saved up for it had I went with the 760 or 770. Plus it's more future proof at the rate tech/gaming is moving. Thank you again all very much for helping me with this big purchase.

Edited by 3CLIPZ3, 02 January 2014 - 05:48 PM.

[Goose]