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[Wintersdark]

Roland, on 02 January 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

Actually, the most common case where a mech runs off and hides, shut down, is Conquest.

Sure, but its not a problem on Conquest, as the game will wrap up quickly. Either the last hiding mech has enough control for a win and he's hiding in order to win (rather than dying and losing the game for his team) or he simply can't win, either way it's fine and nobody us stuck standing around for ages.

Likewise if someone runs off and hides on Assault, nobody cares because you can just step on the base and end it. Surviving players can still act towards winning the game, and that too wraps the battle up quickly.

But on Skirmish, it's trivially easy for say a spider to hide where he won't be found, and then every opposing player is stuck with their thumbs up their ***** just waiting. Sure, they'll win, but it'll still suck enormously.

[Sean Crees]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 28 December 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

Dead players can freely leave the game

While my mech is stuck in game. You give me the ability to take my dead mech to another game and i will GLADLY disconnect and let that A**hole run down the game clock on skirmish. Otherwise his coordinates are getting called out.

Same with disconnects/AFK's in any game mode. Your not contributing to winning a match, and your the last one left, then you deserve to have your position called out to the enemy.

[Corvus Antaka]

Sean Crees, on 24 February 2014 - 02:18 PM, said:

While my mech is stuck in game. You give me the ability to take my dead mech to another game and i will GLADLY disconnect and let that A**hole run down the game clock on skirmish. Otherwise his coordinates are getting called out.

Same with disconnects/AFK's in any game mode. Your not contributing to winning a match, and your the last one left, then you deserve to have your position called out to the enemy.

you have 4 mechbays. pilot a different mech sometime

[Belorion]

Both telling the other team AND shutting down if you are the last mech are frowned upon...

If you run and hide, you are wasting 23 other peoples time. If you are hiding temporarily while waiting on an advantage of some sort, that is a different matter.

If you call out a friendlies position and their intent was the latter, then you are hurting your teams chance of pulling off a victory no matter how remote the possibility.

[Deathsani]

I often agree with you colonol panda, but I don't give a rat's ass about somebody's e-peen. I have yet to be on a team where somebody is this big of a coward, but I will for damn sure be dropping some serious hints on where they might hide.

If there was more at stake than a fictional number that nobody could see but them, like if there were CW, or other persistent game elements I would care. As it is now, I want to play and I want everyone else to play how they want without waiting for some jackass to stop crying in the corner. Grow up and stop concerning yourself with e-sports KDR bullshit and blow things up with your god damn giant robots.

It's mech-WARRIOR not mech-hide-and-seek.

PS, not all of that was for you, Panda vision. I genuinely do respect you but, with conquest being so boring and capping being so unrewarding, skirmish is the last bastion of entertainment for me. Play like this turns a fast fun match into ten minutes of find-the-douchebag.

Edited by Deathsani, 24 February 2014 - 05:29 PM.

[Zerberus]

GRiPSViGiL, on 27 December 2013 - 05:33 PM, said:

We need to be able to disable the minimap without powering down so when you end up the last mech you can't have teammates give away your position so easily.

I have seen instances where 2 and 3 mechs positions were given away in a match.

I see this happen a lot and report it every time no matter which team it occurs to with a screenshot as it is treason and against the code of conduct. It is NOT against the code of conduct to have engaged and then evade or hide in ANY game mode we presently have. That has been confirmed multiple times by CMs: You can reference that here by looking over Egomane's final post of the thread - LINK.

Pay close attention to this statement quoted from the Post by Egomane: "If you fight to the best of your abilities and hide when there is no way for you to win anymore, that is perfectly fine."



If you are the last mech your teammates do not allow you to evade and pick your engagement. They just want you to go die so they get their mech back even though a win condition to every game mode is the timer running out with the most mechs alive. So if you are not willing to exit game and drop in a new mech you should be prepared to be in game for 15 mins every time you hit launch.

I agree 100%, and an slowly but surely getting fed up with ******* giving away teh position of out last light that is actually still fighting.... It`s must be lot of fun to maneuver for 30 seconds into what you think will be a nuice ambuch just to have some pre-pubescent fucktard give away your exact position, and rinse and repeat it for 5 minutes, fighting against both teh enemy AND the greifing Traitor on your own team (edit* Feature idea: when ingame report added, incluede option to report AND mark as traitor. If marked by 7 or more, no rewards for the match, and all that submitted reports will auto-add the player to their block /"don`t ever make me drop with that ******* again" lists).... just becasue he doesn`t have the maturity and patience to wait and watch you kill the atlas, highlander, hunchback and Victor that are all cherry red CT but still fully armed...

Seriously, this is one of if not THE most fun-sucking occurence out there, especially since it is no longer limited to skirmish games like it was in december up to mid january.....

Minimap and /or chat (preferably the latter or both) should be disabled completely for spectators, period.



Now, regarding people whining about others "unnecessarily extending teh match" specifically in skirmish mode:

Shut the hell up and SUCK IT UP!

For months you people asked for SPECIFICALLY and EXACTLY what you have now, and I quote "no way to end the match early except killing all the enemy team"

The entire community told you all, time and time again, that that is exactly what we had in closed beta, and we told you in no uncertain terms that this is exactly what would happen.

You disagreed loudly and vehemently, one of your main "pro-Skirmish" arguments being: "We will use parts of the map that most people don`t even know exist becasue the gameplay will be more dynamic. And you increased the volume and incessant new thread creating until it was almost impossible to read anything but "We want TDM NOW!!", and actually kept throwing your collective temper tantrum WELL AFTER A WEEK AFTER THE MODE WAS INTRODUCED! (Yes, you continied whining about skirmish being so badly needed, a week after it was interroduced to the game. YOu were so busy whining that you didn`T even realize you were whining about nothing.)

And now, you`re whining again, that it`s not hat you wanted after all, that you want /need a way to end the match because "x". Even though "x" is, in this case, exactly one of the thigs that you all touted as such a good reason for skirmish: seeing and using parts of the map you didn`t know existed (and apparently still don`t care to explore and /or use, H9 alpine, anyone?)

******* HELL NO!

We already have assault mode, which was exactly that, TDM with an option to end early, born during CB out of exactly the situation that you all so incessantly stated would never happen. BUT that was too "tactically boring" for the Church of Skill^TM, which was the whole reason they screamed until they turned blue that "we" need skirmish in the first place.

Seriously, either STFU or GTFO, because you obviously don`t have the slightest clue what you really want so you just whine ultil you get whatever just crossed your addled mind as a good idea.

You are doing nothing but wasting even more of everyone`s time with your continued whining. Including PGI`s.

Ever thought about the (very probably) possibility that your precious Quakeabee gamemode just MIGHT have taken up development resources that would have otherwise given us other , more important features either faster or w /less bugs?? No, of course you didn`t , because in your entitled dream world game code grows on magical programming trees that blossom 24/7 and spit out perfect code, optimized and proofed, with exactly the features you dreamt up 10 seconds ago.

To be honest, nobody takes your whines seriously anymore, anyway.... so you mas as well save oyur breath and blood pressure.

And for teh record: One player considers hulk smash robits fun, one considers scouting fun, one considers trolling fun, one considers guerrilla tactics fun.....

But the ONLY ones consistently trying to FORCE their idea of fun onto the entire playerbase are the Hulk smash robots" (read: Skirmish /asault blob) players..... First cap timers in assault and conquest, then skirmish mode, and now they are trying to rationalize conduct that is clearly against the ToS /CoC, solely for their own benefit. As they did with the timers. And skirmish mode. These people need to be banned for their repeated infractions, not catered to like their farts are pixie dust and their shit is made of platinum... and THAT is something I hold strongly against PGI, no separating the wheat from the chaff whatsoever. It may only be my perception, but I have yet to become aware of ANY case where someone was actually sactioned for ingame griefing, reported or not.

In closing, equality does not mean that you acting like an entitled ***** stomping on the rights and desires of others is the same thing as allowing them the same rights that you have.... and BTW, human history shows that entitled ****** actively oppressing others (in this case and most others by using their perceived but nonexistent rights to take others actual rights away) are also always on the wrong side of history in the long run...

Edited by Zerberus, 05 March 2014 - 08:14 PM.

[Ryoken]

Wintersdark, on 27 December 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

I'd be right with you, except for Skirmish.

Quite frankly, F*** that guy who runs and hides and drags the match on for another 7 minutes.

Yupp F*** him good!

Those k/d guys have a tiny epeen anyway!

To fix Skirmish simply autokill all mechs on the loosing team! Then those k/d chickens will no longer annoy everybody in this game mode.