


I'm Making Everyone Cry About Ac/20S Yet I Don't Even Use Them
#101
Posted 31 December 2013 - 03:15 AM

#102
Posted 31 December 2013 - 03:23 AM
Roadkill, on 30 December 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:
A little of column A and a little of column B. I definitely do higher damage if I go unnoticed for a match and walking around the wrong corner could easily spell a 100pt match because PGI hasn't broken up brackets by weight class, yet KBs still stay a consistent 3-4+ per match and for a medium facing the inherent challenges they already do, that's good enough for me. I pilot the difficult mechs because I prefer the challenge.
#103
Posted 31 December 2013 - 04:53 AM
but a damn slow HBK, some armour stripped with dual LB 10-X? The only advantage you may have is not beeing a priority target... I'm not doubting your skill but I think the holidays and the free prem time and the increased consumption of alcoholics over the holidays may have taken some part in those pilots "not realizing whats going on" while you fire 3-5 rounds of giant screenshaking bullet swarms in their face.
But now I will have to try 2x LB-10XAC on a Shadowhawk...

#104
Posted 31 December 2013 - 05:23 AM
Many of us already ran dual LBX's in closed beta. It was a valid build on the Atlas, I chewed up a handful of mechs with that beast, but it is quickly swapped out once you realize it underperforms in most scenarios.
LBX AC's are clearly inferior unless the armor is already stripped off of the target.
Basically you're relying on the rest of the team to do the dirty work for you and then you just mop up afterwards.
You also mentioned lancemates, which means you're used to relying on others. Try pugging solo against upper-mid elo premades with that build.
#105
Posted 31 December 2013 - 05:45 AM
#106
Posted 31 December 2013 - 05:48 AM
poptarters can take an easy shot and make you useless in a matter of seconds.
and i want to fight those poptarts that are made of "tinfoil" too! mine seem to have sooo much armor all the time

anyways, put an AC20 in there and get some speed cause as always "speed is life" there is a huge difference in running 60 and 70 kph, atleast i think so.
#107
Posted 31 December 2013 - 07:01 AM
Hoaggie, on 30 December 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:
I dont think you could have said it better. But how does one know if they are top Elo?
Take your E-Peen out. Measure it. If you think whatever size you got is BIG then you're obviously Leet and in the high ELO of MWO. LOL!

#108
Posted 31 December 2013 - 06:20 PM
lockwoodx, on 30 December 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:
As soon as PGI stops letting us cram huge components into unintended parts of mech builds the BOOMBACK won't be an issue anymore. Until then I'll have fun dropping those smug goliaths who've abused poor mediums since beta.
So much stupid.
Amusing.
Almond Brown, on 31 December 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:
Take your E-Peen out. Measure it. If you think whatever size you got is BIG then you're obviously Leet and in the high ELO of MWO. LOL!

Just checked mine, sat it on my desk and it broke in half.
lol
#112
Posted 02 January 2014 - 10:37 AM
OneEyed Jack, on 30 December 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:
No I did all my tests in live.
OneEyed Jack, on 30 December 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:
I apologize for the quality. No idea why Youtube made such a mess of it. There was also a 2nd video that seems to have vanished.
Can't really argue with that, seems I was wrong, fast fire does work after all. That's good to know. Plus from watching your video I was able to work out why I failed to observe fast fire in effect (I live in the UK and stupidly hadn't compensated enough for my high ping). So thank you for linking the video

#113
Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:05 AM
#114
Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:27 AM
To the OP: great, you've just discovered the secret of the medium glass cannon. Any ballistic medium can wreck face if it relies on the strategy of "Everyone ignore me and shoot at my Atlas buddy!" I used to get great numbers out of my Blackjacks for the same reason (right up until the profusion of AC20 trial BJs--now everyone shoots at the Blackjack).
But good luck trying to sneak up on me--I make a point of singling out the glass cannons on the battlefield because of their big guns and the ease with which you can kill them. I look for BJs, Hunchies, Jagers, K2s, Phracts, etc., and blow out their shoulders asap. A 60kph Hunchie? Lol, even my Misery could run you down.
#115
Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:30 AM
#116
Posted 02 January 2014 - 12:02 PM
Sowaka, on 02 January 2014 - 11:05 AM, said:
The reason why the LBX is a trash tier weapons is because its damage is spread out all over the place.
If I shoot you with an AC10, I'm going to do 10 damage on whatever I hit.
At anything other than absolute point blank (and even at point blank, if the target is a small mech), the LBX10 is going to spread damage over at least two different locations.
Currently, the LBX10 is clearly one of the the worst weapons in the game.
Sowaka, on 02 January 2014 - 11:05 AM, said:
The reality is, you would be more effective if you used almost any other weapon configuration with the tonnage you spent on the LBX's.
That's the big thing that most folks who praise the LBX don't seem to really grasp. It's not that you can't do damage with the LBX... of course you can. And honestly, the final damage numbers on the scoreboard won't even look that bad. But the measure of a weapon isn't simply whether you can do damage... It's how well those weapons work, COMPARED TO OTHER WEAPONS OF EQUIVALENT TONNAGE, in terms of killing mechs.
And the LBX are easily one of the worst weapons in the game by that metric.
#117
Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:35 PM
Edited by AstroTiki, 02 January 2014 - 07:36 PM.
#118
Posted 03 January 2014 - 05:11 AM
Maybe even enough to make the OP a gold HBK.
Throw in both the Project Phoenix/Saber reinforcements like the clan package and there'd be no stopping him.
Edited by KharnZor, 03 January 2014 - 05:13 AM.
#119
Posted 03 January 2014 - 06:19 AM
Top-tier? No. COMPLETE trash? No. Fun? Lots...especially when played into its niche style.
Edited by Ghost Badger, 03 January 2014 - 06:19 AM.
#120
Posted 03 January 2014 - 10:03 AM
Edited by DONTOR, 03 January 2014 - 10:04 AM.
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