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#101 A banana in the tailpipe

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 03:15 AM

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 03:23 AM

View PostRoadkill, on 30 December 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

If you're coring/killing Atlases in a dual LB-10X Hunchback, it's not because the LB is good. It's because the Atlas pilot sucked.


A little of column A and a little of column B. I definitely do higher damage if I go unnoticed for a match and walking around the wrong corner could easily spell a 100pt match because PGI hasn't broken up brackets by weight class, yet KBs still stay a consistent 3-4+ per match and for a medium facing the inherent challenges they already do, that's good enough for me. I pilot the difficult mechs because I prefer the challenge.

#103 z00med

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 04:53 AM

Besides the fact that I really like my Catapult with double shotgun... its effectiveness was dropping massively as soon as I got thrown in higher Elo games (it still gets me a lot of component destruction and is generally spoken more effective as a supporter who shows up where assaults/ Heavys are already engaged (from my limited experience).

but a damn slow HBK, some armour stripped with dual LB 10-X? The only advantage you may have is not beeing a priority target... I'm not doubting your skill but I think the holidays and the free prem time and the increased consumption of alcoholics over the holidays may have taken some part in those pilots "not realizing whats going on" while you fire 3-5 rounds of giant screenshaking bullet swarms in their face.

But now I will have to try 2x LB-10XAC on a Shadowhawk...:)

#104 Levon K

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 05:23 AM

Nothing but a brag thread. OP chewed up some greenzones and felt the need to self-aggrandize on the forums.

Many of us already ran dual LBX's in closed beta. It was a valid build on the Atlas, I chewed up a handful of mechs with that beast, but it is quickly swapped out once you realize it underperforms in most scenarios.

LBX AC's are clearly inferior unless the armor is already stripped off of the target.

Basically you're relying on the rest of the team to do the dirty work for you and then you just mop up afterwards.

You also mentioned lancemates, which means you're used to relying on others. Try pugging solo against upper-mid elo premades with that build.

#105 Alexandrix

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 05:45 AM

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#106 1xLocustx1

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 05:48 AM

So im also using dual Lbx builds but a 60kph Hunch is a dead hunch.

poptarters can take an easy shot and make you useless in a matter of seconds.

and i want to fight those poptarts that are made of "tinfoil" too! mine seem to have sooo much armor all the time :)

anyways, put an AC20 in there and get some speed cause as always "speed is life" there is a huge difference in running 60 and 70 kph, atleast i think so.

#107 Almond Brown

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 07:01 AM

View PostHoaggie, on 30 December 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:


I dont think you could have said it better. But how does one know if they are top Elo?


Take your E-Peen out. Measure it. If you think whatever size you got is BIG then you're obviously Leet and in the high ELO of MWO. LOL! :)

#108 KharnZor

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 06:20 PM

View Postlockwoodx, on 30 December 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

People were wondering how I got the Oxide paint scheme on my HBK the other day and I just told them that's rust from all the tears I've been collecting on the forums. You guys never disappoint for a good laugh at how bunched panties get over sharing a fun build that doesn't conform to the elitist attitudes so prevalent here. <3

As soon as PGI stops letting us cram huge components into unintended parts of mech builds the BOOMBACK won't be an issue anymore. Until then I'll have fun dropping those smug goliaths who've abused poor mediums since beta.

So much stupid.
Amusing.

View PostAlmond Brown, on 31 December 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:


Take your E-Peen out. Measure it. If you think whatever size you got is BIG then you're obviously Leet and in the high ELO of MWO. LOL! :rolleyes:

Just checked mine, sat it on my desk and it broke in half.





lol

#109 Hoaggie

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 06:53 PM

View PostAlmond Brown, on 31 December 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:


Take your E-Peen out. Measure it. If you think whatever size you got is BIG then you're obviously Leet and in the high ELO of MWO. LOL! :rolleyes:


I'm scared to share the measurements, what if the other guys are bigger?

#110 OneEyed Jack

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 02:46 AM

View PostKharnZor, on 31 December 2013 - 06:20 PM, said:

Just checked mine, sat it on my desk and it broke in half.

That's OK, as long as the desk didn't get hurt.

:D

#111 KharnZor

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 04:43 AM

View PostOneEyed Jack, on 01 January 2014 - 02:46 AM, said:

That's OK, as long as the desk didn't get hurt.

;)

lol :D

#112 anubis969

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 10:37 AM

View PostOneEyed Jack, on 30 December 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:

Did you test in the Testing Grounds?

No I did all my tests in live.

View PostOneEyed Jack, on 30 December 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:



I apologize for the quality. No idea why Youtube made such a mess of it. There was also a 2nd video that seems to have vanished.

Can't really argue with that, seems I was wrong, fast fire does work after all. That's good to know. Plus from watching your video I was able to work out why I failed to observe fast fire in effect (I live in the UK and stupidly hadn't compensated enough for my high ping). So thank you for linking the video :lol:.

#113 Sowaka

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:05 AM

I'm a bit curious about the LBX hate, is there any reason not to take it over something like two AC10s? I slapped two LBX and 2LLs into my Catapult K2 and seemed to perform wonderfully. Softens targets magnificently well at medium range, and if they get up close I can just pop out from around a corner and take out whatever softened limbs I want.

#114 Kubernetes

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:27 AM

LBX is fine as a backup to PPCs or other pinpoint weapons, but it's tough using it as your primary gun.

To the OP: great, you've just discovered the secret of the medium glass cannon. Any ballistic medium can wreck face if it relies on the strategy of "Everyone ignore me and shoot at my Atlas buddy!" I used to get great numbers out of my Blackjacks for the same reason (right up until the profusion of AC20 trial BJs--now everyone shoots at the Blackjack).

But good luck trying to sneak up on me--I make a point of singling out the glass cannons on the battlefield because of their big guns and the ease with which you can kill them. I look for BJs, Hunchies, Jagers, K2s, Phracts, etc., and blow out their shoulders asap. A 60kph Hunchie? Lol, even my Misery could run you down.

#115 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:30 AM

I see no reason to fear either smurphy build. Almost everything I have can run circles around it and my box of kleenex has better armor than it does on the rear....

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 12:02 PM

View PostSowaka, on 02 January 2014 - 11:05 AM, said:

I'm a bit curious about the LBX hate, is there any reason not to take it over something like two AC10s?

The reason why the LBX is a trash tier weapons is because its damage is spread out all over the place.

If I shoot you with an AC10, I'm going to do 10 damage on whatever I hit.
At anything other than absolute point blank (and even at point blank, if the target is a small mech), the LBX10 is going to spread damage over at least two different locations.

Currently, the LBX10 is clearly one of the the worst weapons in the game.

View PostSowaka, on 02 January 2014 - 11:05 AM, said:

I slapped two LBX and 2LLs into my Catapult K2 and seemed to perform wonderfully. Softens targets magnificently well at medium range, and if they get up close I can just pop out from around a corner and take out whatever softened limbs I want.

The reality is, you would be more effective if you used almost any other weapon configuration with the tonnage you spent on the LBX's.

That's the big thing that most folks who praise the LBX don't seem to really grasp. It's not that you can't do damage with the LBX... of course you can. And honestly, the final damage numbers on the scoreboard won't even look that bad. But the measure of a weapon isn't simply whether you can do damage... It's how well those weapons work, COMPARED TO OTHER WEAPONS OF EQUIVALENT TONNAGE, in terms of killing mechs.

And the LBX are easily one of the worst weapons in the game by that metric.

#117 E_Crow

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:35 PM

This just became one of my "I'm tired of losing in my regular load out, now screw everyone with my funky load out" mechs.

Edited by AstroTiki, 02 January 2014 - 07:36 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 05:11 AM

So much gold in this thread lol.
Maybe even enough to make the OP a gold HBK.
Throw in both the Project Phoenix/Saber reinforcements like the clan package and there'd be no stopping him.

Edited by KharnZor, 03 January 2014 - 05:13 AM.


#119 AlmightyAeng

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 06:19 AM

LBX-10's aren't a 'top tier' weapon...but they're no NARC. Mount 'em up, find a buddy with hard ballistics, and go thug stuff. Having a friend hit torsos first and then opening up with 4 machine guns and 2 LBX-10's on a JM6-DD is hilarious...we went through a group of 5 'mechs in a conga line last night doing it.

Top-tier? No. COMPLETE trash? No. Fun? Lots...especially when played into its niche style.

Edited by Ghost Badger, 03 January 2014 - 06:19 AM.


#120 DONTOR

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 10:03 AM

You could build it way better by placing the DHS in your left arm in your right arm and adding a medium laser, with no armor on your left arm since you dont need it.

Edited by DONTOR, 03 January 2014 - 10:04 AM.






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