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Jman5, on 29 December 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

I'm genuinely terrible with the Gauss mechanic, but thanks.

Guass isn't too hard to get the hang of. I like it on my BJ1 for tarting.

Edited by lockwoodx, 29 December 2013 - 12:22 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Lb10Xs, while very fun, are sub optimal. Sure, you can get quite a bit of damage, and even kill, but significantly less effectively than its fronloaded AC cousins since you can actually aim those over 200M and it will only damage a single component, rather than be spread over the entire 3 torso regions.

Also, if you bring 3 on the muromets, bring at least 90 ammo, you will run out early otherwise.

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Jman5, on 29 December 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

I'd love to see a recording of you playing a match in that loadout. Like others said, I'm having trouble picturing a successful 60 kph hunchback. Speed was the first thing I upgraded when I got a hunchback.

BTW, I touched up your build some to improve things a little bit. I thought CASE was a waste with your tonnage starved build. I shuffled your armor values around to make them better, I removed the medium head laser and replaced it with 3 small lasers. I split your ammo up between a leg and an arm to prevent a single shot from draining your ammo dry. Finally, I moved heatsinks around some to act as better buffers for your internal items.

HBK-4G

I love my build the way it is but let me know how yours preforms. Good matches for me are 3-4kbs... 6-8 assists, and 400-700 damage.

Mcgral18, on 29 December 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

Also, if you bring 3 on the muromets, bring at least 90 ammo, you will run out early otherwise.

I have lance-mates who run 3lbx muromets. They don't do as much because phracts get targeted first.

Mediums have all sorts of unknown advantages. Fight smarter not harder soldier.

Edited by lockwoodx, 29 December 2013 - 12:32 PM.

[Bagheera]

lockwoodx, on 29 December 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

Protip: If you use to use a build back in beta that was bad, chances are it's better now and the user is stuck in their ways. The only real baddies are the ones who don't evolve and adapt.

Oh, I'll grant you that lb-x are better now than they were, but that didn't stop people from doubling up on them back then for fun either.

Post your video of you 1-shotting a fresh mech, otherwise you're just hyperbole. I love a fun build as much as the next guy, but there's no sense in pretending you've found some secret awesome thing that no one has tried before - neither of which are true, lol.

[Deathlike]

TBH, I'm kinda crying inside when I'm told that 2 LBX10s are the equivalent of an AC20 or "AC40".

I think my ELO bracket is broken.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

Hmm so lets see here.


A double LBX Hunchy that does 60kph, with an effective range of >200m.

Yeah, I would love to play in your bracket, too.


Oh, Lockwood -- I took a go at the LBX build and found a way to save 8 tons and go significantly faster with that Double LBX build. I also managed to get significantly more speed a few more lasers, as well.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6ef43c465e73bc3

Edited by mwhighlander, 29 December 2013 - 03:11 PM.

[Dark Horse X]

lockwoodx, on 29 December 2013 - 07:14 AM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c38557ecc3e9804

Keep in mind it's a mech for advanced play for someone who desires the appropriate reward for the risk involved. Once your hunch is gone that's it so learn to twist like chubby checkers baby. That said... you will turn people into confetti before they know what happened. Faster than boom jagers because your rate of fire is double and heat is non existent. I almost always run out of ammo before a match ends unless I'm the one who makes the first mistake. Even with the hunch gone you can still zombie around and rack up some decent damage.

When running the twin LB10X's you don't need all of the heat sinks and moving so slowly only invites an LRM deluge. Here's a take on your build incorporating the AMS, beefing up the arm armor somewhat, maxing the head armor, reducing the heat sinks and adding a couple of SLAS's; although you could drop the SLAS's and add another ton of AMS ammo - you may definitely need it.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8a0182997c92b88

Edited by Vlad Dragu, 29 December 2013 - 03:13 PM.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

Vlad Dragu, on 29 December 2013 - 03:12 PM, said:

When running the twin LB10X's you don't need all of the heat sinks and moving so slowly only invites an LRM deluge. Here's a take on your build incorporating the AMS, beefing up the arm armor somewhat, maxing the head armor, reducing the heat sinks and adding a couple of SLAS's; although you could drop the SLAS's and add another ton of AMS ammo - you may definitely need it.

[smurfy]http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8a0182997c92b88[/smurfy]

hey, umm boss. You actually DO need those heat sinks as you need at least 10 to be a valid loadout.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Ladies please, control your orgasams. I warned you it's a risk/reward build and glass cannon.

Happy hunting and o7.

Deathlike, on 29 December 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

I think my ELO bracket is broken.

No we've encountered each other a few times before. Either you're slipping or I'm gaining. A win win for me.

Edited by lockwoodx, 29 December 2013 - 03:45 PM.

[NKAc Street]

When will PGI stop changing things based upon noobs dying and crying?

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NKAc Street, on 29 December 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

When will PGI stop changing things based upon noobs dying and crying?

I'd love to know because noobs accusing me of using AC40s when I blasted them with DUALBX10s is one of the major reason i created this thread in the first place. The other reason being PGI needs to wake up and realize this build will shred people once weight limits happen, not to mention the mech bay issues.

[Mcgral18]

lockwoodx, on 29 December 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

I'd love to know because noobs accusing me of using AC40s when I blasted them with DUALBX10s is one of the major reason i created this thread in the first place. The other reason being PGI needs to wake up and realize this build will shred people once weight limits happen, not to mention the mech bay issues.

It hardly tears people apart. What you'll see is Wangs, Shaqs and BJs with AC20s and PPCs, poptarting to their hearts content. Just smaller poptarts.

Ton for ton, you are better off with an AC20 and more backup weapons, rather than 2 Lb10s.

You have a hard time tearing into people with 3 of them, let alone only 2.

[NKAc Street]

lockwoodx, on 29 December 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

I'd love to know because noobs accusing me of using AC40s when I blasted them with DUALBX10s is one of the major reason i created this thread in the first place. The other reason being PGI needs to wake up and realize this build will shred people once weight limits happen, not to mention the mech bay issues.

Thats kinda my point though, that build isn't any real threat to good players. I have a catapult that I do very well in, noobs complain and cry. Even before the ridiculous AC/20 ghost heat nerf, it did not pose a sigificant threat to good players, only whiner noobs. Is my Catapult OP because some noob whiners get shredded with it?

What needs to be talked about is when is something actually OP as opposed to cry babies who got killed with a certain setup.

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Mcgral18, on 29 December 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

It hardly tears people apart. What you'll see is Wangs, Shaqs and BJs with AC20s and PPCs, poptarting to their hearts content. Just smaller poptarts.

Ton for ton, you are better off with an AC20 and more backup weapons, rather than 2 Lb10s.

You have a hard time tearing into people with 3 of them, let alone only 2.

Ton for ton I'm better off with my Dual LBX10. Why? Those tarters are made of tinfoil. Spray their face once with doublebuck and they back off... waltz into a crowd popping then back and forth and suddenly it's chaos. You're not only a glass cannon able to decimate an assault, but you're the bulldozer who pushes for your lance. I can't tell you how many times I've told pugs.. "ok follow me as I push" then start twisting and BLAPing scurbs. I don't even care if they drop.... because each hit is enough to make them **** their jumpers and question WTF is this HBK all about. Players with high fidelity systems go deaf, players on the moon base never know what hit them, and when you give someone the business end of DUALBX from a single barrel, people take notice.

One thing Mechwarrior lacks is intimidation. Too many ladies in tinfoil playing peekaboo...

I mean business and if you end up on the end of it, sucks to be you.

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lockwoodx, on 29 December 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

Ton for ton I'm better off with my Dual LBX10. Why? Those tarters are made of tinfoil. Spray their face once with doublebuck and they back off... waltz into a crowd popping then back and forth and suddenly it's chaos. You're not only a glass cannon able to decimate an assault, but you're the bulldozer who pushes for your lance. I can't tell you how many times I've told pugs.. "ok follow me as I push" then start twisting and BLAPing scurbs. I don't even care if they drop.... because each hit is enough to make them **** their jumpers and question WTF is this HBK all about. Players with high fidelity systems go deaf, players on the moon base never know what hit them, and when you give someone the business end of DUALBX from a single barrel, people take notice.

One thing Mechwarrior lacks is intimidation. Too many ladies in tinfoil playing peekaboo...

I mean business and if you end up on the end of it, sucks to be you.

NKAc Street, on 29 December 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

Thats kinda my point though, that build isn't any real threat to good players.

I totally respect your opinion man. All I can say at this point is try it for yourself. It's a game changer for a 50 ton mech.

[Mcgral18]

lockwoodx, on 29 December 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

Ton for ton I'm better off with my Dual LBX10. Why? Those tarters are made of tinfoil. Spray their face once with doublebuck and they back off... waltz into a crowd popping then back and forth and suddenly it's chaos. You're not only a glass cannon able to decimate an assault, but you're the bulldozer who pushes for your lance. I can't tell you how many times I've told pugs.. "ok follow me as I push" then start twisting and BLAPing scurbs. I don't even care if they drop.... because each hit is enough to make them **** their jumpers and question WTF is this HBK all about. Players with high fidelity systems go deaf, players on the moon base never know what hit them, and when you give someone the business end of DUALBX from a single barrel, people take notice.

One thing Mechwarrior lacks is intimidation. Too many ladies in tinfoil playing peekaboo...

I mean business and if you end up on the end of it, sucks to be you.

I am afraid you're wrong, any competent poptart can aim for your left torso mid air, or brawling. Frontloaded pinpoint wins a brawl if both parties are equal skill.

[Wildstreak]

You are not the first to do Dual LBX on a Hunchback.
I found this back when I considered which Hunchbacks I wanted to try. I think it is from Closed Beta, notice how small the cap bases are.

[C E Dwyer]

I use a single ubx10 on my hunchie with medium lasers, rather be faster than your twin build

people are highly critical of this weapon, but its grossly underestimated.

strange I look at this thread right now, because I've just come off a 3kills, 5 assists match with mine, Victor, Battlemaster, and Griffin

[Deathlike]

lockwoodx, on 29 December 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

No we've encountered each other a few times before. Either you're slipping or I'm gaining. A win win for me.

It's ok, my ELO regularly takes a beating.

Just not with LBX.

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