18 replies to this topic

[Vulix]

Have kind of missed the news abuzz MWO recently due to the holidays and all, but do we know if there will be clan variants of any of the implemented IS mechs? Could make for some interesting reinventions of mechs already in the game.

[Ghogiel]

Battlemechs > Omnimechs.

Just think how OP it would be being able to build a mech in mechlab with clan tech but under battlemech build rules.

[cSand]

I think he means more like the Jenner IIC etc...

[Ghogiel]

cSand, on 27 December 2013 - 05:15 PM, said:

I think he means more like the Jenner IIC etc...

Yeah. Which are battlemechs not omnimechs.

[xhrit]

Yeah, just think of how OP the kodiak and stone rhino are going to be...

Edited by xhrit, 27 December 2013 - 06:17 PM.

[ValdnadHartagga]

Well, we can probably rule out the Macross unseen (Whammy, Marauder, and Rifleman IIc). However, since we have the Dougram/Crusher Joe Reseens we could probably see the IIcs of those, except the Thud-IIc which is a 3085 design. That said however, we already have at least three of each as regular IS BattleMechs - adding the IIcs would just be superfluous. I'd rather see the more unique second-liners like the Kodiak, Madrill, Kraken, et cetera (plus, they'd be more interesting-looking than facelifted version of 'Mechs we already have)

[Sandpit]

I imagine that would be the next logical package after clan mechs. Introducing the IIC variants

Edited by Sandpit, 05 January 2014 - 09:30 AM.

[cSand]

Ghogiel, on 27 December 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

Yeah. Which are battlemechs not omnimechs.

Thanks for your input, captain semantics. Must get tiring carrying your BT rulebook around everywhere

Edited by cSand, 30 December 2013 - 01:45 PM.

[Voidsinger]

Apart from the IIC variants, there were also the (C) variants. These were simpler modifications to Innersphere designs, refitted with Clan Weaponry etc.

These could form a bridge. It is also interesting to note that TRO dates don't count, rather you need to read the history behind the mechs for in service dates. That said, we don't have the current Dragon production model (Grand Dragon since 3039), So PGI have their own agendas on a few models (Faction specific). Guess we need to wait and see.

[yalk]

cSand, on 30 December 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Thanks for your input, captain semantics. Must get tiring carrying your BT rulebook around everywhere

Well, not just semantics...and this isn't a Battletech correction. It would be if PGI was ignoring the differences, then I'd agree, while it applies to Battletech it does not apply to MWO. This is not the case, however, as omnimechs are supposedly going to have more restrictions in build min/max than battlemechs, thus his remark Battlemechs>omnimechs is relevant to MWO.

So his correction is justified as having a Battlemech with the same min/max ability as our current mechs but with clantech weapons and true Dbl heat sinks would be quite powerful. Amazing that they can actually create a meta with second line garrison duty IIC battle mechs better than front line omnis.

TLDR: u got burned, grow up

Edited by yalk, 04 January 2014 - 02:41 PM.

[Lord Letto]

Locust IIC (Circa 2832), Jenner IIC (3042), Hunchback IIC (2856), Commando IIC (2856), Shadowhawk IIC (2831), Griffin IIC (2851), Thunderbolt IIC (3085), Orion IIC (2841) And Highlander IIC (2858). Only one that Won't Meet the Timeline is the TBolt IIC.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Locust_IIC
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jenner_IIC
http://www.sarna.net...i/Hunchback_IIC
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Commando_IIC
http://www.sarna.net...Shadow_Hawk_IIC
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Griffin_IIC
http://www.sarna.net...Thunderbolt_IIC
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Orion_IIC
http://www.sarna.net.../Highlander_IIC

[Sandpit]

Voidsinger, on 31 December 2013 - 05:13 AM, said:

TRO dates don't count

QFT

None of the manuals, tro, or other lore dates count

PGI has thrown out the entire timeline so at this point quoting things like service dates is moot at best.

[Bagheera]

Sandpit, on 05 January 2014 - 09:33 AM, said:

QFT

None of the manuals, tro, or other lore dates count

PGI has thrown out the entire timeline so at this point quoting things like service dates is moot at best.

If that were true, then they should skip the iiC mechs and give us IS mechs from 3055 as the next pack.

[Sandpit]

Bagheera, on 05 January 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

If that were true, then they should skip the iiC mechs and give us IS mechs from 3055 as the next pack.

It's not "if"
They've stated as such. The timeline cannot be kept because they can't get the stuff out in line with it. I'm not saying this to be a dbag to PGI, it's just a statement of fact from them. That's why the day for day calendar was suspended. I just think of it as a parallel universe where the time frames are a little different

[Wolf Ender]

Hunchback IIC would be AWESOME.
Glass Cannons are just fun to play

[Bagheera]

You know what I mean though, right now the timeline is arbitrary - but we are all using tech from basically ~3050. Assuming there is eventually some sort of territory or something happening, they aren't going to skip forward 5 years of tech just to give me a package of ecm mechs with melee weapons, even if they were designed in response to the clan invasion.

Nothing's in stone for the moment, but for the most part we can expect tech releases to follow whatever year we're playing at a given point in time.

[Sandpit]

Bagheera, on 05 January 2014 - 03:31 PM, said:

You know what I mean though, right now the timeline is arbitrary - but we are all using tech from basically ~3050. Assuming there is eventually some sort of territory or something happening, they aren't going to skip forward 5 years of tech just to give me a package of ecm mechs with melee weapons, even if they were designed in response to the clan invasion.

Nothing's in stone for the moment, but for the most part we can expect tech releases to follow whatever year we're playing at a given point in time.

I'm not banking on anything at this point lol

I'd think they would follow SOME sort of timeline for release of stuff but I gave up that mode of thinking once clans were announced and that same day as clans were announced Russ (or Bryan? I'd have to recheck but I think it was Russ) tweeted "CW will be here before Clans"
Then the next day the timeframe for CW was released and completely nullified the earlier statement about CW

[LauLiao]

Ghogiel, on 27 December 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

Yeah. Which are battlemechs not omnimechs.

I believe the Clans actually just refer to these as "Second-Line Mechs"

[CyclonerM]

It is true that the timeline has been dropped, but the game tech (except some exceptions.. ) is still based on 3050 IS Star League tech(and later Clan). So i would not see as probabile a 3055 'Mech pack.