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#1 Hawk819

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 01:55 PM

I don't think [Russ] Bullock mentioned this, or not. What I want to know is how will the Clan versions of the SRM work?

1) will they be the same mechanics and damage?

OR

2) Nerfed to all amounts of hell till there's no more tomorrow?

#2 Dock Steward

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 02:11 PM

He mentioned SSRM's having a built in chain fire effect (potentially), but I don't remember if he said anything about SRM's. My assumption was that they were going to try to balance most clan tech with heat.

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 02:21 PM

Make the Clam SRMs slightly different to the point of being arbitrarily different? Nah, they'll figure something out.

Edited by Alcom Isst, 05 January 2014 - 02:21 PM.


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Posted 05 January 2014 - 09:18 PM

Personally I would like them to use different firing mechanics, i.e. IS is the buckshot and Clans could maybe use a "ripple fire" that has a greater effective range and accuracy (the time it takes to get all missiles out would be fairly short, i.e. 0.7 seconds or so for a CSRM6?), but not as good of a twitchy in-your-face weapon.


PGI is probably going to ghost heat them to hell and back, and/or make them fire out really slow without increasing their accuracy.

Edited by FupDup, 05 January 2014 - 09:19 PM.


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Posted 05 January 2014 - 09:39 PM

View PostFupDup, on 05 January 2014 - 09:18 PM, said:

Personally I would like them to use different firing mechanics, i.e. IS is the buckshot and Clans could maybe use a "ripple fire" that has a greater effective range and accuracy (the time it takes to get all missiles out would be fairly short, i.e. 0.7 seconds or so for a CSRM6?), but not as good of a twitchy in-your-face weapon.


Something like this would work for me.

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 08:31 AM

View PostFupDup, on 05 January 2014 - 09:18 PM, said:

Personally I would like them to use different firing mechanics, i.e. IS is the buckshot and Clans could maybe use a "ripple fire" that has a greater effective range and accuracy (the time it takes to get all missiles out would be fairly short, i.e. 0.7 seconds or so for a CSRM6?), but not as good of a twitchy in-your-face weapon.


PGI is probably going to ghost heat them to hell and back, and/or make them fire out really slow without increasing their accuracy.

Do you mean like a staggered fire effect?

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 08:37 AM

Does it really matter if they don't reliably hit?

#8 FupDup

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 08:55 AM

View PostSandpit, on 06 January 2014 - 08:31 AM, said:

Do you mean like a staggered fire effect?

Yeah, like MW4's SRMs.



Or MWLL:


Almost like a "missile duration" of sorts, but faster than firing SRMs out of a Narc tube in current gameplay.



EDIT: Why isn't it embedding? :wub:

Edited by FupDup, 06 January 2014 - 09:10 AM.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 08:59 AM

View Posthawk819, on 05 January 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

I don't think [Russ] Bullock mentioned this, or not. What I want to know is how will the Clan versions of the SRM work?

1) will they be the same mechanics and damage?

OR

2) Nerfed to all amounts of hell till there's no more tomorrow?

basing this on the current state: They won't

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 09:16 AM

View PostDock Steward, on 05 January 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

He mentioned SSRM's having a built in chain fire effect (potentially), but I don't remember if he said anything about SRM's. My assumption was that they were going to try to balance most clan tech with heat.


Balancing it with heat? Ugh... I'd rather they just discover clan heat sinks and I'll keep my IS weapons.

#11 Sandpit

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 09:21 AM

View PostFupDup, on 06 January 2014 - 08:55 AM, said:

Yeah, like MW4's SRMs.



Or MWLL:


Almost like a "missile duration" of sorts, but faster than firing SRMs out of a Narc tube in current gameplay.



EDIT: Why isn't it embedding? :wub:

I think that could be a way to do it.

#12 Strum Wealh

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 11:00 AM

View Posthawk819, on 05 January 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

I don't think [Russ] Bullock mentioned this, or not. What I want to know is how will the Clan versions of the SRM work?

1) will they be the same mechanics and damage?

OR

2) Nerfed to all amounts of hell till there's no more tomorrow?

View PostDock Steward, on 05 January 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

He mentioned SSRM's having a built in chain fire effect (potentially), but I don't remember if he said anything about SRM's. My assumption was that they were going to try to balance most clan tech with heat.

From the Command Chair post, it sounds like the Clan Streak SRM launchers (and possibly the larger IS-built SSRM launchers, later in the BT timeline) would fire their missiles in sets of 2 (such that the SSRM-2 fires one volley of 2 missiles per salvo, the SSRM-4 fires two volleys of 2 missiles each (for a total of 4 missiles per salvo), and the SSRM-6 fires three volleys of 2 missiles each (for a total of 6 missiles per salvo)).

Though, it doesn't touch on what (if anything) might be done to the Clans' standard SRM launchers to distinguish them from the IS-built versions; it's possible that they could have the same "launch all of the missiles at once" firing pattern as the IS SRM launchers, with the differences (other than weight and crits, obviously) coming from heat generation adjustment and recycle time. :wub:

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:31 PM

Is srm's will continue to be broken, and clan will work like IS srms used to.

#14 DONTOR

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:40 PM

View PostFupDup, on 06 January 2014 - 08:55 AM, said:

Yeah, like MW4's SRMs.



Or MWLL:


Almost like a "missile duration" of sorts, but faster than firing SRMs out of a Narc tube in current gameplay.



EDIT: Why isn't it embedding? :P

LOL those MW4 SRMs look redciulous and seemed to do very little damage. No wonder I never used them back then!

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:42 PM

View PostDONTOR, on 06 January 2014 - 02:40 PM, said:

LOL those MW4 SRMs look redciulous and seemed to do very little damage. No wonder I never used them back then!

Yeah, they only did something like 1.5 damage per missile (9 damage for an SRM6) in MW4 Mercs (I dunno what their MW4 Vengeance or Black Knight damages were). Although, the Clan Streaks were pretty nice for knocking people over if boated.





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