

Friar's Confuzzled Again.
#1
Posted 06 January 2014 - 05:43 AM
I thought mistakenly perhaps that i needed 3 of 1 mech to get master skill. Now in a different area its three of that weight class ie lights/meds/hvy's/assults....
So huh?
Now Questions.
1. Which is it? 3 of same mech or 3 of class?
2. Do i take 1 commando to master or all 3?
3. If i master 1 or 3 do i master all lights/class? ie i'll have master level skills in say a jenner?
The Confuzzled Friar.
#2
Posted 06 January 2014 - 05:56 AM
Edited by FriarShaggy, 06 January 2014 - 05:57 AM.
#3
Posted 06 January 2014 - 06:03 AM
Edited by Bhelogan, 06 January 2014 - 06:04 AM.
#4
Posted 06 January 2014 - 06:09 AM
1. You need all the basics of 3 variants of the same chassis to unlock elite.
2. You need all the elite of 3 variants of the same weight class to unlock master.
Usually unsaid but still important:
3: The mech itself needs all basics to unlock elite, and all elites to unlock mastery.
Normally, to get your first elite you need to get 3 variants of the same chassis through the basics. That will unlock 'elite' for all three of those variants. So the most economical way to get to your first mastery is to unlock all four elite efficiencies of those same mechs. You would only need to buy three mechs to get the mastery, and would get the mastery of those three mechs at the same time. It is possible to earn your mastery with different mechs in the same weight class, but it gets more expensive. For example you could get to elite with a Commando, Spider, and Raven and then use those three get your first mastery. But you would need to buy 3 Commandos, 3 Spiders, and 3 Ravens and go through the basics of all 9 of those mechs to get the 3 elites you eventually master.
However, regardless of how you unlocked your first mastery, mastery gets unlocked for the whole weight class. So, if you achieved mastery with the Commandos and decided you want a Jenner, you would still need take 3 Jenners through the basics to unlock elite, but your mastery of other mechs in the weight class means that you could then sell and never touch two of those Jenners again without throwing away your opportunity to master it. The first Jenner with all four elites will "master" automatically since you unlocked mastery with the Commandos.
Does that make sense, or is it still confusing?
#5
Posted 06 January 2014 - 06:13 AM

#6
Posted 06 January 2014 - 06:45 AM
Friar.
Ps Turist

#7
Posted 06 January 2014 - 06:50 AM
FriarShaggy, on 06 January 2014 - 06:45 AM, said:
Friar.
Ps Turist

No, on the first part. You need to have master unlocked on 3 commandos first. Finishing elites, on 3 variants of mechs in a weight class will make master available to those mechs that have elites finished only. now, having the mech mastered does not mean that you have unlocked the extra module slot. Only that you have the ability to unlock it once you have enough exp.
Konril, on 06 January 2014 - 06:09 AM, said:
1. You need all the basics of 3 variants of the same chassis to unlock elite.
2. You need all the elite of 3 variants of the same weight class to unlock master.
Usually unsaid but still important:
3: The mech itself needs all basics to unlock elite, and all elites to unlock mastery.
This
Edited by Bhelogan, 06 January 2014 - 06:52 AM.
#8
Posted 06 January 2014 - 06:50 AM
FriarShaggy, on 06 January 2014 - 06:45 AM, said:
Friar.
Ps Turist

No, 3 commando's with mastery unlocked (all elites completed) unlocks mastery for all other mechs of the same weight class. Once you have a chassis ready for mastery, you can do the same for all other chassis of the same weight class.
#9
Posted 06 January 2014 - 06:55 AM
Now heres where i'm confused.....Do i take just 1 commando to mastery or all 3 to unlock the ability for the other lights?
#10
Posted 06 January 2014 - 07:08 AM
FriarShaggy, on 06 January 2014 - 06:55 AM, said:
Now heres where i'm confused.....Do i take just 1 commando to mastery or all 3 to unlock the ability for the other lights?
If you have finished elites on all 3 commandos, then they are mastered. You don't have to unlock the master module slot. Doing so will only allow you to equip one extra module on that specific chassis. You do have to buy modules, and some have to be unlocked via GXP in the pilot tree, but you can remove them from mechs and swap them around. Some are consumable, so will be gone after one use.
#11
Posted 06 January 2014 - 07:11 AM
*Sighs and takes a deep breath.*
First let's define some things.
Mech = battlemech, can be anything from the Harvester Ant

to the Goliath

Class = short for weight classification. It is also called "Category."
Refers to Light, Medium, Heavy, Assault.
Chassis = Refers to the line of Battlemech.
For example the Hunchback chassis developed primarily by the Komiyaba/Nissan General Industries manufacturing company. Or the Atlas for which certain variants are produced entirely by Yori 'Mech Works, Defiance Industries, Independence Weaponry, and Robinson Standard BattleWorks.
Variant = If you think of cars, then the Chassis is the model (Hunchback) and the Variant is the year and extras packed in (4SP).
And here it is altogether.

Now, let's give the solid answer in one location:
- To get elite, you must have 3 Variants of the same Chassis brought up to complete the Basics. They must be of the same chassis, but cannot be the same variant (or another version of the same variant; i.e. champion and regular, Sarah's mech, and Package specific versions with their regular versions do not count.)
- To get master, you only need 3 elites of the same Class. They do not have to be the same chassis.
Edited by Koniving, 06 January 2014 - 07:27 AM.
#12
Posted 06 January 2014 - 07:12 AM

Friar.
#13
Posted 06 January 2014 - 07:18 AM
If you have 3 commandos you need basic on all three to unlock elite; you need elite completed on all three to unlock master.
If you buy 3 spiders, you need to complete basic for all three to unlock elite; you will only need to complete elite on one mech to reach master, because you already fulfilled the requirement for 3 fully elited mechs in this weight class.
You can also mix any 3 fully elited mechs in the same weight class... But you always need 3 of each basis to complete the basics for that chassis to get any further
#14
Posted 06 January 2014 - 09:11 AM
#15
Posted 06 January 2014 - 09:18 AM
And props to Kon, for the over the top thorough answer.

#16
Posted 06 January 2014 - 10:28 AM
#17
Posted 06 January 2014 - 10:29 AM
Initially, you need to take three variants of a chassis, and finish elites, to unlock the module grind for each variant...Subsequent chassis of the same weight class, just need to have three variants basic'd, to unlock the elite tree all the way through the master grind. Essentially, you no longer need to take two variants you may or may not like *through* the elite grind, to master out the variant you do like, to get that variant the extra module slot.
#19
Posted 06 January 2014 - 11:44 AM
Gorantir, on 06 January 2014 - 10:28 AM, said:
Pilot tree and Mech trees are not the same thing. Granted the command post bout this is a little vague to have any real clue what they are planning to implement.
http://mwomercs.com/...ls-and-modules/
Edited by Bhelogan, 06 January 2014 - 11:46 AM.
#20
Posted 06 January 2014 - 11:44 AM
Edited by Void Angel, 06 January 2014 - 11:51 AM.
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