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{Scrap} State Rewind Or Why High Ping Players Win Most Matches


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#21 Alistair Winter

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 12:50 PM

View PostVillz, on 11 January 2014 - 12:35 PM, said:

This OP is easily the most Rtarded thing i'v read on these forums in a LONGGGGG time. and thats saying something.


Then how do you explain.... THIS?

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I did 5 times more damage than the Raven 2X while my ping was 4 times as high. This proves that light mechs with high pings are OP.

Here's a tutorial on how to raise your ping in order to be an elite MWO player.

#22 Bagheera

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 12:57 PM

Can someone explain to my why people think that if they cannot hit a player with a high ping that said player can somehow magically hit them with no trouble?

Shouldn't it work both ways?

Edited by Bagheera, 11 January 2014 - 12:59 PM.


#23 R Razor

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 12:58 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 11 January 2014 - 12:50 PM, said:


Then how do you explain.... THIS?

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I did 5 times more damage than the Raven 2X while my ping was 4 times as high. This proves that light mechs with high pings are OP.

Here's a tutorial on how to raise your ping in order to be an elite MWO player.



Maybe it just proves you're a more skilled player?

#24 YueFei

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 01:04 PM

Uh, even if you have a high ping, other people can still hit you. That's not the issue. The issue is that when a player with high ping leaves cover to shoot at you, you can't react in time.

It does cut both ways, though. The player with high ping, if he comes under attack, also can't react fast enough. He starts to twist/turn/jump/whatever, but the server doesn't get the action until a couple hundred milliseconds later. So on his own screen, it will also look like he's safely turned, or made it into cover, but because of his latency, the server thinks he didn't move fast enough and still got hit.

The solution for *everyone* is to move in an anticipatory way. Don't wait til you see the enemy to react. Always be twisting, turning, stutter stepping, whatever, until you're ready to shoot. Whining about HSR + lag isn't going to change anything, so we gotta adapt how we play.

#25 Zerberus

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 01:40 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 11 January 2014 - 12:50 PM, said:


Then how do you explain.... THIS?

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I did 5 times more damage than the Raven 2X while my ping was 4 times as high. This proves that light mechs with high pings are OP.

Here's a tutorial on how to raise your ping in order to be an elite MWO player.


1. Anecdotal evidence never proved jack ****.
2. any raven pilot worth his salt knows that the 2x is crapptastic and the 3l is king
3. your team was overall stronger, not roflstomp strong, but just looking at the damage numbers you obviously had better aim for the most part. Most newbs think lots of damage makes a pilot, but in reality it`s much more efficient and the sign of a truly capable marksman (not necessarily pilot) to eliminate tas many enemy combatants as possible using as few shots as possible.

And that`s just the tip of the iceberg.. all we have is the EG SS....Record demos of the match and post them to youtube, an endgame screen says almost nothing about the battle encounter. That is why world history doesn`t really care HOW someone won or lost a battle, just whether they did or not. :)

#26 CGB Behemoth

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 01:51 PM

I'm travelling much. So i have played from many locations, with many internet providers. Didn't have such problems at all (played at 50-450 pings).

P.S. Sorry for my bad English

#27 Bagheera

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 01:52 PM

View PostZensei, on 11 January 2014 - 01:18 PM, said:

again Bageehra with the whats wrong with you


For someone who claims to have uninstalled you've developed quite a hate-***** for me, sad really. Following me around a forum for a game you supposedly no longer play.

Your life must be quite rewarding.

#28 Roadbeer

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 02:01 PM

View PostBagheera, on 11 January 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:


For someone who claims to have uninstalled you've developed quite a hate-***** for me, sad really. Following me around a forum for a game you supposedly no longer play.

Your life must be quite rewarding.


So many of those... Darthbane comes to mind for me.

#29 Sephlock

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 02:18 PM

View PostBagheera, on 11 January 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:



For someone who claims to have uninstalled you've developed quite a hate-***** for me, sad really. Following me around a forum for a game you supposedly no longer play.

Your life must be quite rewarding.

View PostZensei, on 11 January 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:



it is rewarding, try stopping trolling me, cuz until you stop I will not
Looks like our island is turning into the one from "Lord of the Flies".

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#30 Zerberus

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 02:33 PM

View PostZensei, on 11 January 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:


it is rewarding, try stopping trolling me, cuz until you stop I will not


Don`t you have another thread that you`re not supposed to be in anymore either because you uninstalled specifically becasue of the forumwarriors an hour ago?

And yet you still expect us to take you seriously... :)

#31 Bagheera

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 05:45 PM

View PostZerberus, on 11 January 2014 - 02:33 PM, said:


Don`t you have another thread that you`re not supposed to be in anymore either because you uninstalled specifically becasue of the forumwarriors an hour ago?

And yet you still expect us to take you seriously... ^_^


Sssshhhh.

No one tell her that we do this for fun.

#32 Roadbeer

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 05:50 PM

View PostBagheera, on 11 January 2014 - 05:45 PM, said:


Sssshhhh.

No one tell her that we do this for fun.


Hell, some of us made a religion of it.

Never not post



#33 Sandpit

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 05:53 PM

View PostPataine, on 07 January 2014 - 12:37 PM, said:

Host state needs to either be fixed or taken out of the game. .

Does this mean I can FINALLY add something to my list?????

View PostRoadbeer, on 11 January 2014 - 02:01 PM, said:


So many of those... Darthbane comes to mind for me.

Oddly enough, I ran across a thread on the star citizen forums the other day
It was entirely completely and totally all about how PGI and MWO sucks. I mean like over a hundred pages. And it's Vassago and various other players that have left or quit or etc.

They spend hours bashing PGI and MWO over there lol

#34 Bagheera

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 10:03 PM

View PostSandpit, on 11 January 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

Does this mean I can FINALLY add something to my list?????


Too bad no one has any vids from the 200kph commando days, you could really use that as an example of the game without HSR.

View PostSandpit, on 11 January 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

Oddly enough, I ran across a thread on the star citizen forums the other day
It was entirely completely and totally all about how PGI and MWO sucks. I mean like over a hundred pages. And it's Vassago and various other players that have left or quit or etc.

They spend hours bashing PGI and MWO over there lol


I went to look up that thread just for kicks. You owe me 15 minutes for making me skim through that drek!

#35 Alistair Winter

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 10:19 PM

View PostZerberus, on 11 January 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

1. Anecdotal evidence never proved jack ****.

View PostR Razor, on 11 January 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

Maybe it just proves you're a more skilled player?

Pro tip: If someone on the internet makes no sense, briefly consider if they're being ironic / sarcastic. ^_^

Edited by Alistair Winter, 11 January 2014 - 10:25 PM.


#36 Sandpit

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 10:22 PM

View PostBagheera, on 11 January 2014 - 10:03 PM, said:


Too bad no one has any vids from the 200kph commando days, you could really use that as an example of the game without HSR.



I went to look up that thread just for kicks. You owe me 15 minutes for making me skim through that drek!

I lulz'd myself to sleep after about 10 ^_^

#37 Zerberus

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 01:28 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 11 January 2014 - 10:19 PM, said:

Pro tip: If someone on the internet makes no sense, briefly consider if they're being ironic / sarcastic. B)

Well played, sir. I fell for it. -_-

Then again, I propbably wouldn`t have on any other forum, but I`ve seen pigs fly into space and discover new planets with intelligent life on these forums :P

Edited by Zerberus, 12 January 2014 - 01:29 PM.


#38 Roadbeer

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 01:31 PM

And now the mystery of how House Marik brand space bacon came to be, is solved.

#39 Sandpit

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 01:42 PM

:P sense is tingling

soon



#40 Nick Makiaveli

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 01:56 PM

View PostZensei, on 11 January 2014 - 01:18 PM, said:


again Bageehra with the whats wrong with you


maybe you should study the game more, cuz you seem to need to be explained to alot


And maybe you should learn civil discourse. Rather than call someone names and denigrate their intelligence, try asking questions. Only the ignorant and foolish are absolutely convinced they are right.

Example: Did it occur to you that she was considering your argument and willing to be convinced, and that she was seeking more information prior to making a judgement call?

Example of what you did: Hey dumbass, pretty obvious you have no facts to back up your lame *** argument, so why don't you just ****? (Note this was purely for educational purposes and not an actual hateful response.)





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