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[Sybreed]

I know PGI does a lot of stat tracking, so I'd like to know if it's possible to get the following stats for the last 6 months:

- Damage dealt by LRMs (% of the overall dmg dealt)
- Same for SRMs, lasers, ACs

It would be interesting to know what weapon system does the most damage overall, and it could surprise some of us that some weapons don't do as well as we think. Do ACs do more than 50% of the damage? Are LRMs really the fearsome weapon some say they are? That's some stuff that'd be nice to know.

[Varent]

Sybreed, on 08 January 2014 - 10:37 AM, said:

I know PGI does a lot of stat tracking, so I'd like to know if it's possible to get the following stats for the last 6 months:

- Damage dealt by LRMs (% of the overall dmg dealt)
- Same for SRMs, lasers, ACs

It would be interesting to know what weapon system does the most damage overall, and it could surprise some of us that some weapons don't do as well as we think. Do ACs do more than 50% of the damage? Are LRMs really the fearsome weapon some say they are? That's some stuff that'd be nice to know.

Im willing to bet in actual overall damage dealt the numbers will be ...

1. lasers. - Most common weapons in the game, on all lights and used as backup weapons on tons of mechs.

2 AC - High Alpha, People like them, easy to use.

3. PPC - Lot of jump snipers out there.

4. LRM/SRM? I think this is a toss up... can put them either 4 or 5 respectively. This is mostly due to the underuse of LRM and the hit reg problems of SRM

[OneEyed Jack]

Those stats would only show what weapons were being used more, not anything representative of the weapons themselves.

[Artgathan]

I'd actually like to see the average accuracy for everyone's SRMs and LRMs. I think that would perhaps be more telling than the damage.

[stjobe]

In the meantime you can always go to https://mwomercs.com...ats?type=weapon and tally up your own stats.

For me it's
60% energy (53% lasers, 7% PPCs)
20% ballistics
17% SRMs
3% LRMs

Can you tell I prefer running lights?

[Varent]

stjobe, on 08 January 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

In the meantime you can always go to https://mwomercs.com...ats?type=weapon and tally up your own stats.

For me it's
60% energy (53% lasers, 7% PPCs)
20% ballistics
17% SRMs
3% LRMs

Can you tell I prefer running lights?

similiar for me. Though im actually a pretty well rounded player. That said my srm and balistic are a wee bit higher, though not by much. I admit a love for srm.

[stjobe]

Varent, on 08 January 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

I'm actually a pretty well rounded player.

Let's not get into body shapes, ok?

Varent, on 08 January 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

That said my srm and balistic are a wee bit higher, though not by much. I admit a love for srm.

I'm most surprised that I've actually fired so little PPCs (or should I say, done so little damage with them...).

[Varent]

stjobe, on 08 January 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

Let's not get into body shapes, ok?


I'm most surprised that I've actually fired so little PPCs (or should I say, done so little damage with them...).

you know you want my hawt body jobe, dont lie *wink wink*

I think some of my stats are wonky because my play style has changed dramatically since I started. I may have higher lrm stats than I should since ive mostly abandoned using them these days.

[Sug]

stjobe, on 08 January 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

Can you tell I prefer running lights?

Sybreed, on 08 January 2014 - 10:37 AM, said:

It would be interesting to know what weapon system does the most damage overall, and it could surprise some of us that some weapons don't do as well as we think. Do ACs do more than 50% of the damage? Are LRMs really the fearsome weapon some say they are? That's some stuff that'd be nice to know.

....wait what?

What info are you looking for? Which weapons people are using more? Which is more accurate? Which does the most damage?

[Deathlike]

Considering that the silent majority provide telemetry to PGI and that PGI is pretty silent about their telemetry (or give little to no context of what their telemetry means)...

Yea, no dice.

[Victor Morson]

Sybreed, on 08 January 2014 - 10:37 AM, said:

I know PGI does a lot of stat tracking, so I'd like to know if it's possible to get the following stats for the last 6 months:

- Damage dealt by LRMs (% of the overall dmg dealt)
- Same for SRMs, lasers, ACs

It would be interesting to know what weapon system does the most damage overall, and it could surprise some of us that some weapons don't do as well as we think. Do ACs do more than 50% of the damage? Are LRMs really the fearsome weapon some say they are? That's some stuff that'd be nice to know.

The only stat that's actually researched at PGI is Paul/Russ's mood level, which is why we often never see a change and when we do, it's out of left field and often very dumb.

If they were doing any kind of actual analytic stuff with the weapons, they'd be constantly tuning and we'd have a way better situation. We also wouldn't have them nerfing already subpar guns in favor of fixing broken ones.

I will bet you fifty dollars that Russ saw someone at Valve talking about how they review data and just tried to say the same things, because it's clear nobody is looking at the gun data in practice.

Edited by Victor Morson, 08 January 2014 - 02:05 PM.

[Noesis]

API system.

[Mister Blastman]

Deathlike, on 08 January 2014 - 01:45 PM, said:

Considering that the silent majority provide telemetry to PGI and that PGI is pretty silent about their telemetry (or give little to no context of what their telemetry means)...

Yea, no dice.

The majority of silent telemetry concurs balance has been quiet and measured when looked at obfuscatorily.

[Deathlike]

Mister Blastman, on 08 January 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

The majority of silent telemetry concurs balance has been quiet and measured when looked at obfuscatorily.

Well, silence is golden.

BUY A GOLD MECH PLZ.

[Rebas Kradd]

I'd like to see which Mechs do the most damage. I imagine it's the Jagermech.

[Troggy]

The problem with stats and telemetry is asking the right questions....I suspect that looking at this much data makes it surprisingly hard to come to conclusions.

I would be interested in a correlation of Elo and Damage per shot fired, for each weapon.

I would be interested in a correlation of Ave Ping and damage per shot per weapon.

I would be interested in somehow correlating Elo with weapon selection.

--
Troggy

[Victor Morson]

Troggy, on 08 January 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

The problem with stats and telemetry is asking the right questions....I suspect that looking at this much data makes it surprisingly hard to come to conclusions.

We used to debate if they were looking at casuals over competitive players all the time
We used to debate what they were doing wrong with the analytics

Then I realized what was actually happening was none of it. Because NO MATTER what group, style, experience level, etc. you are playing in.. flamers aren't doing jack all and they've been untouched for nearly a year. The last time I saw someone take a NARC they were in a horrible stock 'mech.

The reason their data seems bad is they aren't getting data in the first place. We are seeing the mad, irrational changes brought on by what's happening in their closed off internal-office games without a single care given for the world outside it.

EDIT: I may joke that an AC/10 must have killed Paul and that brought this on, but it's only a half joke. If this were fact it would not surprise me.

Edited by Victor Morson, 08 January 2014 - 03:13 PM.

[FupDup]

Victor Morson, on 08 January 2014 - 03:11 PM, said:

...flamers aren't doing jack all and they've been untouched for nearly a year...

Speaking of Flamers...

Edited by FupDup, 08 January 2014 - 03:14 PM.

[anonymous161]

pretty sure medium lasers would get the highest number by far.

I wanna know the number of players that actively play this game, thats a stat that most companies will release. What confidence can we actually have if they wont even allow us to know how many people log on and play a day for more than one match?

[Victor Morson]

FupDup, on 08 January 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

Speaking of Flamers...

That is absolutely hilarious. I just totally linked that on my unit forum.