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#21 StonedDead

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 04:14 PM

Honestly, I don't mind the skirmish mode. I was one who asked for it. Sometimes it's fun to hunt someone down that wants to hide. Sometimes it's fun to mess with people. I once survived almost a whole match on canyon without weapons by pretending to be be a dead mech whenever anyone got close. They literally walked around me waving guns in my face repeatedly, but didn't fire. They ran all over the map trying to find me and I found it hilarious. I had hit the power down key when I lost the guns and the guy stopped shooting me even though there was no kill message. Totally stumped him that my mech stopped working when he shot me. Swore in chat that I had DC'ed so he couldn't get the kill. I just ran around after that, powering down whenever I heard mechs walking or saw them on seismic. Lived for about 12 mins, several of them being the sole survivor when I should have been the first mech down. The other team was cursing me, and my team was laughing. It was worth it.

Too bad I just can't get interested enough to play a match. I have grown bored with the content thus far. I really do need to play some though, my premium time is just wasting away.

#22 Mekwarrior

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 07:43 PM

I don't get what people mean when they say they can't choose not to play skirmish, the button next to the launch button allows you to choose game mode, if you want to choose assault or conquest you can.

I've been playing skirmish a lot recently because it's new and interesting, actually I did notice that it was slightly more challenging than assault many times.

I would welcome even more game modes, maybe defend the base vs destroy the base for example (with more than one building though lol), or others.

Edited by Mekwarrior, 11 January 2014 - 07:44 PM.


#23 Roadbeer

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 08:21 PM

NOPE.

This is exactly what everyone cried for.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

Now deal with it.

#24 Alex Warden

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 08:48 PM

View PostZerberus, on 10 January 2014 - 09:10 PM, said:

Strongly against.

The "community" asked, no, SCREAMED at the top of their lungs for MONTHS that they wanted a "pure" deathmatch mode with absolutely no frills and no way to end early. So much that they continued whining almost a month after it was announced that the mode would be introduced.

EVERYTHING that is happening in skirmish games is EXACTLY what almost everybody that has been playing since closed beta or even just for a few months told them would happen. To the letter and the dot on the i.

IMO the only change tha needs to happen to skirmish mode (because it is, in fact, EXACTLY what "the community" wanted in every way) is that it needs to finally be deselectable so that the people that enjoy actual tactics and not the mindless hurr-durr-assault-smash-mech-blobfest that is skirmish can queue up for Conquest and Assault without having to waste 3/4 matches playing Quakewarrior Online.


ain´t it funny that the first community demand (gameplaywise) that PGI willingly fulfills is a stupid idea?

i was one of those who said ... "give us new game modes" i said that because assault is a deathmatch... with the "alternative" (and imho still poorly implemented) capture mechanic...

and i was one of those who cried out when the first guy mentioned "Deathmatch" as an alternative .... *insert18+cursehere*

well, maybe seeing the current workload and backlogg PGI is facing, the best they could do for breaking up the stall gameplay of the last year, was simply bringing a deathmatch and editing the spawnlocations... fair enough, i didn´t expect even this that soon...


BUT, to give a statement @your post: i think it´s totally reasonable - now that the car´s smooched the tree - to criticise WHAT we have to play now. and assuming this mode stays for a while, why not finetune it at least ...

(btw, i like the environmental thing... we could do that for all modes, current and future, not as a "skirmish fix", but as an MWO mechanic...+10 @the suggestion)

i personally don´t think we need a fix for skirmish.. i witnessed those annoying situations maybe 3 or 4 times since the mode´s in, most games end with the last kill... and in most of those the last mech (funfact: 90% a not very much damaged Spider^^)survives no longer than 3 minutes... i can live with that...

plus, and that´s really just me, i find it funny what ppl come up with finding a good "timeout" position ^_^

and as i said, the moments that those grieferguys succeed are very very rare

regards - Alex (edited for typos)

Edited by Alex Warden, 11 January 2014 - 08:57 PM.


#25 Amsro

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 08:49 PM

I for one am enjoying skirmish mode when it comes up. I've yet to find someone that can hide from me! ^_^

I'll always be using the ANY search mode, nice to change it up. One mode gets boring. B)

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 09:04 PM

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 10:11 PM

View PostMekwarrior, on 11 January 2014 - 07:43 PM, said:

I don't get what people mean when they say they can't choose not to play skirmish, the button next to the launch button allows you to choose game mode, if you want to choose assault or conquest you can.


Yes, you can.

However this increases my waiting time to get a match as the MM is only searching for 1 game mode...... (and anyone elses who does not want to play skirmish, for that match or at all etc...)

It's annoying to have to constantly change between them, and sometimes I even forget when I login and end up in a skirmish match I didn't want to be in as I can't stop the searching and change it from ANY once I click launch.....

Its already taking too damn long to find matches, forcing me to select assault OR conquest instead of being able to have the MM look for a match in BOTH of those modes for me sucks.


I guess you could say that anyone who wants to play skirmish and not the other 2 modes is stuck in this same situation (only 1 mode selected so less matching options so longer queue time generally etc)

However im not sure what PGI can do for those people unless they added another skirmish mode or something similar to it so they could queue for 2 game modes as well etc...... (however there is really only 1 version of Straight TDM sooo............oh solaris I guess they would also queue for so that would work.....)

Edited by Fooooo, 11 January 2014 - 10:22 PM.


#28 Mekwarrior

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 10:51 PM

Oh ok.

But it's only a few seconds more, of course it's better to not to wait for even a few seconds but maybe a better fix would be to get rid of the ready button instead lol.

But I'd still rather see new modes and new gameplay with a few seconds longer to wait, than the same old two modes forever to save a few seconds.

#29 MadcatX

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 11:18 PM

If I had to ballpark it, I'd say I've played around 100 skirmish matches.

It's actually made me appreciate even more that in game anyways, there isn't a whole lot of players who go out of their way to annoy other players, unlike quite a few multiplayer games out there that do have more people who want to ruin other folks fun for twisted kicks. Skirmish hiding would be the perfect game mode to troll a match, and, at least myself having never yet experience this once (closest thing is an average light pilot that extends the game by doing a bit of damage to the enemy when you know he isn't going to do much at all, but nonetheless, even if annoying, I'll always defend a last player standing right to fight it to the end.

Sometimes you get those rare times when you spectate an excellent pilot, those are interesting to watch.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 11:36 PM

View PostZerberus, on 10 January 2014 - 09:10 PM, said:

Strongly against.

The "community" asked, no, SCREAMED at the top of their lungs for MONTHS that they wanted a "pure" deathmatch mode with absolutely no frills and no way to end early. So much that they continued whining almost a month after it was announced that the mode would be introduced.

EVERYTHING that is happening in skirmish games is EXACTLY what almost everybody that has been playing since closed beta or even just for a few months told them would happen. To the letter and the dot on the i.

IMO the only change tha needs to happen to skirmish mode (because it is, in fact, EXACTLY what "the community" wanted in every way) is that it needs to finally be deselectable so that the people that enjoy actual tactics and not the mindless hurr-durr-assault-smash-mech-blobfest that is skirmish can queue up for Conquest and Assault without having to waste 3/4 matches playing Quakewarrior Online.


Just to build here, stricter drop weight restrictions and a shorter time limit (say, 5 minutes instead of 15) would be correct answers as well.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:07 AM

Skirmish mode was welcomed at first but it just continues the boring blind grind. I quit last week, until cw comes out and more features are added the game has gotten too boring and the meta takes the fun out for me.

#32 Roadbeer

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 03:53 AM

View PostDarth Bane001, on 12 January 2014 - 12:07 AM, said:

I quit last week


I love how he posts this in almost every thread.

Nobody cares dude.

#33 Sandpit

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:06 PM

View PostDarth Bane001, on 12 January 2014 - 12:07 AM, said:

Skirmish mode was welcomed at first but it just continues the boring blind grind. I quit last week, until cw comes out and more features are added the game has gotten too boring and the meta takes the fun out for me.

View PostRoadbeer, on 12 January 2014 - 03:53 AM, said:


I love how he posts this in almost every thread.

Nobody cares dude.

He's just ere for the cake now

#34 Bagheera

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:17 PM

View PostRoadbeer, on 12 January 2014 - 03:53 AM, said:


I love how he posts this in almost every thread.

Nobody cares dude.


Nah, that's just the extent of his goldfish like memory. He forgets that he quit last week, plays a few games, remembers he was mad, and quits again. The following week the cycle picks up once more.

#35 EvilCow

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:40 PM

Skirmish is fine, go fix bugs instead.

#36 Zerberus

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 01:22 PM

View PostRoadbeer, on 12 January 2014 - 03:53 AM, said:


I love how he posts this in almost every thread.

Nobody cares dude.

I`m starting to think he quits every Saturday and reinstalls every Monday... B) :P

Edited by Zerberus, 12 January 2014 - 01:22 PM.


#37 Karl Marlow

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 01:43 PM

I've not really seen anyone hiding in skirmish mode but I've not really been playing as much due to holidays and more recently this winter storm that has made work hectic. I am not uprised to hear that this is happening though. It was highly predictable.

Personally I like objective based Pvp. Deathmatch just feels odd in any game Ive seen it in. Normally fights happen for a reason. You fight an enemy because you are wanting to take something or deny it t your foe. Yeah you might want to thin out the enemy but thisis usually in relation to you objective. Its easier to capture a base because there are fewer enemies on the field.

As it is right now Skirmish is just assault without a point. The real problem with assault wasn't the preence of the ase but rather the mechanics surrounding the bases capture. Actually turning it into a fortified position that has some means of protecting itself would be very helpful. Requireing a certain minimum reuired tonnage to start the cap would also be helpful.

View PostRoadbeer, on 12 January 2014 - 03:53 AM, said:


I love how he posts this in almost every thread.

Nobody cares dude.


I quit early last year. then cameback 3 months later. Can I haz cookie?

Edited by ThomasMarik, 12 January 2014 - 01:46 PM.


#38 Corbon Zackery

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 01:49 PM

Just put one objective marker center of the map. So if one mech is just squatting in the corner you can end the match.


There has to be some point to skirmish mode otherwise its just blob of high alpha mechs fighting a blob of high alpha mechs.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 01:59 PM

View PostCorbon Zackery, on 12 January 2014 - 01:49 PM, said:

Just put one objective marker center of the map. So if one mech is just squatting in the corner you can end the match.


There has to be some point to skirmish mode otherwise its just blob of high alpha mechs fighting a blob of high alpha mechs.


Ummmm, that's called Assault Mode dude

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 02:07 PM

View PostCorbon Zackery, on 12 January 2014 - 01:49 PM, said:

Just put one objective marker center of the map. So if one mech is just squatting in the corner you can end the match.


There has to be some point to skirmish mode otherwise its just blob of high alpha mechs fighting a blob of high alpha mechs.

...........
Really?
Uhm that's the exact same mode everyone was QQing about and griefing over the cap mechanic

But you're right
If only there was some sort of mode that had a base to capture to prevent this kind of thing.
If only there were some way to force a quicker end to the match
If only we has a cap point to Assault..... :P





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