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[Tim East]

ECM is so goofy that I have a difficult time valuing it anymore. Time was that it was indispensable and ending up with a difference of two or more ECM mechs was a near-certain death sentence to the team on the short end of the stick, but as more and more ways to counter it have emerged, I've begun to question its usefulness. I suppose that if you fielded an entire company of ECM mechs you might be able to get some interesting outcomes, especially if you managed to get an early lead via sniping or something, but in this day and age of being able to counter one just by mounting BAP and being nearby the opposing team could more or less counter you 1 for 1 for the same tonnage cost and get a bonus to targeting data on top of that. Also iirc ECM counter only extends to 180, while BAP is 240 in its current rendition.

With all that said though, I'm pretty certain ECM has helped me on occasion, since I run it in my PB and I rarely take any kind of return fire at all, let alone get hit, unlike my 3M. On the other hand, I took it out of my COM 2D and didn't miss it at all. I guess I'm just ambivalent about it.

BAP on the other hand, is pretty much always a good buy unless you are mounting ECM yourself. I try to cram it on most of my lights and pretty much always stick it on anything with any real amount of tonnage. The faster info gathering is just so very good, the range increase is vital for scouting or sniping, and the ECM countering is icing on top of all that other cake.

[Soul Tribunal]

Shar Wolf, on 08 December 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

In a Locust that is bragging rights right there.

LOL, yeah I guess so, it just was frustrating.

I've also had 3 matches now where there were 3 Locusts on board. Won all 3.

-ST

[Tim East]

Soul Tribunal, on 08 December 2014 - 07:44 PM, said:

LOL, yeah I guess so, it just was frustrating.

I've also had 3 matches now where there were 3 Locusts on board. Won all 3.

-ST

That's because Locusts are ace machines for ace mechwarriors.

But seriously, how many people here have yet to get a johnny five in one?

[Alaskan Nobody]

Tim East, on 08 December 2014 - 07:54 PM, said:

But seriously, how many people here have yet to get a johnny five in one?

That one the 5 assists?
Think I have in my Locusts.

Comes and goes though - as it takes a fair bit of luck.

[Tim East]

Five kills, one match. Go.

[Soul Tribunal]

Tim East, on 08 December 2014 - 07:54 PM, said:

That's because Locusts are ace machines for ace mechwarriors.

But seriously, how many people here have yet to get a johnny five in one?

I've always been one short to be honest. But usually at that point in the match getting close to my 5th kill I am cherry red everywhere, and with the amount of FF...I don't risk ducking in and out for the last kill.

-ST

[3xnihilo]

Hat trick is my best in a locust so far.

Tim East, on 08 December 2014 - 08:05 PM, said:

Five kills, one match. Go.

Are you issuing a challenge? If so, Challenge accepted! Might take me all year but I will do it

[Soul Tribunal]

3xnihilo, on 09 December 2014 - 07:41 AM, said:

Hat trick is my best in a locust so far.



Are you issuing a challenge? If so, Challenge accepted! Might take me all year but I will do it

You are lucky though now. With all the KGC's running around you'll probably be able to fit Underneath it and just Core it out with Lazors!

It's going to be Locust season today

-ST

[jper4]

Tim East, on 08 December 2014 - 07:54 PM, said:

That's because Locusts are ace machines for ace mechwarriors.

But seriously, how many people here have yet to get a johnny five in one?

i haven;t, i'm never there for big kill numbers in anything, think my most was 3 a few times. think my max kills period was 6- in a 6ML BJ-3 of all things...

[3xnihilo]

I better invest in DHS for my 3m. With all the crabs, whales, and wolves I am going to be hunting down I am going to need to keep up a steady rate of fire haha.

[Bigbacon]

Dagada Moor, on 08 December 2014 - 06:39 PM, said:

Big Bacon and 3X, you can run what you want. But not taken an ECM on Locust and Commando when you can is a disadvantage to your team. You would be better off in 3M or a 1E or one or the Commandos with more missiles. With ECM you can cover or run pack or flank and scout. I would not ***** at either of you.I would run in a pack with you and hunt fatties...... Each to his own.

so untrue... me having ECM or not doesn't give me or my team an advantage. running with or without makes no difference in the outcome. I ripped out ECM on everything when they killed it with BAP360, it didn't make a lick of difference. All ECM does is either cover folks in the early game or let you run around and sniper stuff.

I've put it back on my PB with 4ML and I'm not doing any better or worse nor is my team.

I see ECM as a crutch and as something the rest of your guys can ***** at you about because they expect that your ECM will be their life saver. If I have it, I use it to try and help the team but in the end, i'm positive it isn't helping win or lose. It gives you a false sense of security most of the time.

Either way, I just hate having people complain because I didn't use some META wubawubadakkadakka-IWannaBeaCompMaser build.

Soul Tribunal, on 09 December 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

You are lucky though now. With all the KGC's running around you'll probably be able to fit Underneath it and just Core it out with Lazors!

It's going to be Locust season today

-ST

you can be a lazor crab k0ck!

Edited by Bigbacon, 09 December 2014 - 10:52 AM.

[Bagheera]

Did the 3S quirks change, or did I imagine it had one specific to srm2 and it was always just a generic missile quirk?

[Barkem Squirrel]

The brown paper is on the table and butter heated. So who has been enjoying crab legs this afternoon? With Assaults making up 75% of the mechs waiting for a game earlier, I have this sinister thought, Crab season is open.

[InspectorG]

Use this versus the Crab.

[InspectorG]

Tim East, on 08 December 2014 - 07:54 PM, said:

That's because Locusts are ace machines for ace mechwarriors.

But seriously, how many people here have yet to get a johnny five in one?

Johnny Five Locust? No.

Did get 6 kills in my TDK...so 'almost'.

[Milocinia]

If you want to know how to pilot the Nocust ask "64K RAM SYSTEM" about his 6 SL -1E.

It was genuinely a joy to watch him pilot that deathtrap. Absolutely stunning pilot.

[Mindwipe]

Locusts are too much fun. I have trouble going to a Firestarter or Jenner now as they feel so sluggish. I've been giggling at the people joking in one of the CW threads about taking 2 King Crabs and 2 Locusts. It's a good idea I suppose, but I'll be very annoyed if I have to play those filler King Crabs!

I have gotten five kills in one match, and a few four kill matches. The five kill one surprised me as it was a very intense Frozen City match and I could only account for maybe two but most of the match was a white knuckled brawl. I was sure we were going to lose. I think that match was over 650 damage. I'm at work so I can't review my screenshot of the results. Best match with the little guy I've had.

[Ovion]

I agree, everything feels slower than a Locust.

And if you take 3 Locusts, you need 60 tons to bring it up.
If I had clans, I'd go Mad Dog.
As is, probably either Jager or single King Crab.

[64K RAM SYSTEM]

Kyocera, on 09 December 2014 - 09:58 PM, said:

If you want to know how to pilot the Nocust ask "64K RAM SYSTEM" about his 6 SL -1E.

It was genuinely a joy to watch him pilot that deathtrap. Absolutely stunning pilot.

Thank you sir you are too kind but I was just very lucky in that match. I think I did around 600 dmg and got 3 kills.

Got behind the King Crab but it pushed me against the wall. Then it was buggy hit detection time with some warping around due to the poor collision system. I think he got a good hit on me with his AC20s but the damage did not register. So it was quite a mess really...

The other kills I do not remember so well, but they were already damaged mechs I believe.

Usually I get around 200-300 damage and maybe 1 kill with my Locust. More often though I just explode without achieving anything.



I guess alot of people tend to ignore the Locust and concentrate on more menacing opponents. When that happens the Locust can get in many free shots and deal some serious damage. The quirk system definitely helps alot in this since I can shoot longer with the 6 small lasers without worrying about overheating.

My favorite tactic is to try and circle around the enemy force and seek out the slow Dire Wolfs (and now King crabs). Then just shoot them in the back until they pop. Best is if they are also getting shot in the front then they may not realise that someone is behind them dealing the bulk of the damage.

Then again there are many good pilots out there who are deadly accurate and they need to get just one quick look at the Locust to fire their deadly alpha at it.

I usually play aggressively with my Locust seeking out enemy heavy mechs. Against lighter mechs the Locust is not so good since it can not outmaneuver them and avoid taking damage. For medium mechs it is best to try and leg them first so they slow down to 40 KPH then they are easier to take down. Only hope in surviving against another light mech is that the other pilot is a novice or already cored.

I also pilot a Hunchback 4G, Orion ON1-V and Awesome 8Q, but the Locust 1E is my favorite.

[Blackwolf 1 1]

Haven't gotten 5 kills yet in a locust, but I've gotten 4 several times. I do better in kills and assists than damage most of the time. I tend to go for the kill shots as frequently as I can. Best match I've ever had was on Terra Therma, running around. Worked with a raven pilot to kill three enemy lights between us, then I got legged in the center volcano. I limped after my sole surviving teammate and covered his back. Just happened to glance to the left and saw a TW about to come in and I blew off his second torso and killed him. Walked over to his smoking husk and was confronted by the barrel of an Atlas ac20. Totally flipped out and just pulled the trigger on my lasers and down he went

Best match I've even had in my locust, at 4 kills and three assists I think. I don't remember the damage.