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[RapidFire7]

I'm sure you all know of the big fuss over the Clan mech pricing.

Here's what I posted from the new thread about Clan tech by Paul Inouye.
http://mwomercs.com/...33#entry2991433

I believe I've got some good suggestions to make Clan mech pricing more reasonable. I'll copy and paste it here:

"I'm an avid player, I've invested a fair amount of money into this game and understand that PGI needs to make money to continue paying their employees and keep the game running.

Obviously, Clan mechs are going to be a bit more expensive than Inner Sphere mechs

HOWEVER

Hardly anyone is going to want to pay anything with the current pricing as it is. If I want a Warhawk, and only a Warhawk, why do I have to pay $240?

For the amount of Clan mechs available, I suggest that comsumers should be able to either:

- Pick and choose which chassis packs they want for $30 each

- Pick separate weight packs (for example, a Clan Light pack for $55-$60)

- Keep the extras for people that want to buy the whole 8-tier list but remove it for those people who just want to pick a few mechs from the bunch

- I also suggest that if you wanted to give players a better deal for the 8-tier and if you want to ENCOURAGE spending, put a little discount among the top-tier packages. eg. From the Uller Collection up, $30, $60, $90, $115, $140, $165, $185, $200. That way, when you get to the bigger packages, you get more mechs and stuff per $$$ that someone spends. It's smart marketing and it encourages spending, especially since you are selling digital content."

I highlighted my main points.

Other suggestions welcome, hopefully PGI might see the thread and see what we as consumers would like to see.

Me personally: I don't mind spending money on the game. I wouldn't mind buying mechs for this price, but I don't want to buy mechs I'm not going to use. The Phoenix package was alright for value for money, but if I want a Warhawk (I LOVE WARHAWKS!) but there is no way I am spending $240 on that.

PGI might find that they might make more money if they allow users a bit of freedom of purchase, instead of being stuck with one horrible pricing system.

As I said, post your constructive criticism before, please no flame wars. Unless you have a 9-Flamer Hunchie 4P.

EDIT: Got rid of all the copy/paste formatting and added quotation marks to show what the actual quote was.

Edited by RFMG567, 14 December 2013 - 03:58 PM.

[Joe Decker]

I also think People shall be able to preorder the Clanmech they want to have, without being forced to buy 3 other Variants they don't want for Example.

On the other Side the really big Packages need more Bonus Premium Time.

But before I would buy a Clan Package at all I need to know how they implement the Clans in the Game.

First more Information from PGI please. It seems at the Moment they don't have much of an Idea of how to bring the Clans to the IS...

[RapidFire7]

They seem to be behind on a lot of things... I think it's not a good idea making these mechs available for sale until they get a concrete idea as to what their customization limitations will be

[Joe Decker]

But now you got a Problem : Now People might have already bought Clanmechs - now it is somewhat impossible to make huge Changes anymore about Clanners or IS Pilots picking their Factions without causing much Trouble again...

[Damian Frost]

Great info guys, hopefully this thread can turn into something constructive. I agree with you and Joe both, the three clan mechs out of the list available that I would buy are the Summoner, Storm crow, and the timber wolf since the Mad Dog (vulture) isn't available in the list. I would pay for what I can choose out of the list not one set price for a bunch of items that are going to sit in the mech lab and collect virtual dust outside of the three I that I would primarily use. But, I'm hoping they can change their pricing model and deliver on more needed in game and front end features such as DX compatibility, user interface, and community warfare before I would actually commit to buying a clan mech package.

Edited by Damian Frost, 15 December 2013 - 10:43 AM.

[RapidFire7]

Yeah I was a bit disappointed when I saw there was no Mad Dog too - it's an iconic mech.

I would buy the Summoner, Stormcrow, Timber Wolf and Warhawk for $120 - and I wouldn't care if being allowed to pick and choose made me ineligible for all the extra stuff.

Thanks for your thoughts guys, keep 'em coming!

[Frankdark]

Same for me

[aniviron]

The Warhawk is my favourite assault in the game, bar none. I'm not dropping $240 on it, that's just not happening. I feel that $30 is outrageous for a single mech, but I would still pay that for my Warhawk. By not letting me pick which mech I get for the $30 investment, they've lost my $30.

[Damian Frost]

aniviron, on 15 December 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

The Warhawk is my favourite assault in the game, bar none. I'm not dropping $240 on it, that's just not happening. I feel that $30 is outrageous for a single mech, but I would still pay that for my Warhawk. By not letting me pick which mech I get for the $30 investment, they've lost my $30.

as long as you get the prime config along with two alternates as well with that money, I agree with you and RF both, yes it would be worth the money then. but then again look at how many people would buy the timberwolf alone, just because it is one of the if not the most iconic mech next to the warhammer. there are going to be so many timber wolves in the game it won't be funny.

[RapidFire7]

Hopefully people don't buy the $210 package just to get the Timber Wolf - it will probably be available for regular purchase sometime after they release the Clan mechs

[Spr1ggan]

True however if the trend remains the same as it has been with the Phoenix mechs, then don't expect to see the Timberwolf for Cbills until December 2014.

[aniviron]

Damian Frost, on 15 December 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

as long as you get the prime config along with two alternates as well with that money, I agree with you and RF both, yes it would be worth the money then. but then again look at how many people would buy the timberwolf alone, just because it is one of the if not the most iconic mech next to the warhammer. there are going to be so many timber wolves in the game it won't be funny.

When the Timberwolf becomes available for cbill purchase, there are going to be so many it won't be funny anyway.

You can't stop people from piloting their favourite mech. I am sure that the same thing was said about the Atlas for the founders package, people upset that a rare iconic mech would be choosable without having to have the lights, mediums, and heavies. Well, assaults and heavies rule the battlefield now, we adapted pretty well. I'm sure the players can get used to packs of Timberwolves too.

[RapidFire7]

According to Sarna, Timberwolves will be about 20million+ C-Bills... would take a fair amount of grinding to purchase them. Assuming PGI makes them more expensive than Inner Sphere mechs

[ciller]

Here are my suggestions on how PGI can fix this clan packages mess:

• reduce package prices in half
  
• add increasing MC to each package
  
• free Golden Mech skin on mech of your choice to anyone who purchased Founders or Phoenix
  
• prioritize the release of UI2.0 and Community Warfare

Perhaps they can manage these things and avoid mega-transactions in the future (they are called micro-transactions for a reason, keep them small and simple, $5-10-15 dollar bronze/silver/gold skins would sell like insanity). It doesn't take a genius to figure out ways to both monetize properly and keep your audience interested and happy. Whoever is currently in charge needs to be fired for incompetency.


Honestly, at this point I just want to feel like we are getting a deal. I also like the OP's idea of interchangeable mix and match packages. Very good idea.

[Naclador]

Yes, please!

I want a Clan Mech and I am willing to pay my 30 bucks, but I want a heavy, not a bloody Uller!

My Suggestion, all packs for 30 USD:
- Light Mech: 1 premium, 3 standard
- Medium Mech: 1 premium, 2 standard
- Heavy Mech: 1 premium, 1 standard
- Assault: 1 premium only

Fair or not? I cannot afford to buy a Mad Cat collection.

Btw, thx for a great game!

[RapidFire7]

Good ideas guys, keep them coming

BTW thanks ciller

[zolop]

RFMG567, on 14 December 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

I'm sure you all know of the big fuss over the Clan mech pricing.

Here's what I posted from the new thread about Clan tech by Paul Inouye.
http://mwomercs.com/...33#entry2991433

I believe I've got some good suggestions to make Clan mech pricing more reasonable. I'll copy and paste it here:

"I'm an avid player, I've invested a fair amount of money into this game and understand that PGI needs to make money to continue paying their employees and keep the game running.

Obviously, Clan mechs are going to be a bit more expensive than Inner Sphere mechs

HOWEVER

Hardly anyone is going to want to pay anything with the current pricing as it is. If I want a Warhawk, and only a Warhawk, why do I have to pay $240?

For the amount of Clan mechs available, I suggest that comsumers should be able to either:

- Pick and choose which chassis packs they want for $30 each

- Pick separate weight packs (for example, a Clan Light pack for $55-$60)

- Keep the extras for people that want to buy the whole 8-tier list but remove it for those people who just want to pick a few mechs from the bunch

- I also suggest that if you wanted to give players a better deal for the 8-tier and if you want to ENCOURAGE spending, put a little discount among the top-tier packages. eg. From the Uller Collection up, $30, $60, $90, $115, $140, $165, $185, $200. That way, when you get to the bigger packages, you get more mechs and stuff per $$$ that someone spends. It's smart marketing and it encourages spending, especially since you are selling digital content."

I highlighted my main points.

Other suggestions welcome, hopefully PGI might see the thread and see what we as consumers would like to see.

Me personally: I don't mind spending money on the game. I wouldn't mind buying mechs for this price, but I don't want to buy mechs I'm not going to use. The Phoenix package was alright for value for money, but if I want a Warhawk (I LOVE WARHAWKS!) but there is no way I am spending $240 on that.

PGI might find that they might make more money if they allow users a bit of freedom of purchase, instead of being stuck with one horrible pricing system.

As I said, post your constructive criticism before, please no flame wars. Unless you have a 9-Flamer Hunchie 4P.

EDIT: Got rid of all the copy/paste formatting and added quotation marks to show what the actual quote was.

Agree Entirely $240 is a steep price for all that DIGITAL content ONLY for MWO..

[RapidFire7]

Interesting read here guys, for a free-to-play game, these prices are quite gnarly:
http://www.forbes.co...0-golden-mechs/

[Gyrok]

Honestly, some good thoughts in here...

However, I think it would probably behoove them to just break the packages down into 2 separate packages like Phoenix. 4 Mechs each, one from each weight class. Then they would both be $120 for the max package, with the premium time etc built in. Of course, you would have people who would buy both packages, but you would likely have many more that would buy one or the other, or some portion of one.

I do like the idea of weight class based packages though. 2 of one class for a set amount, perhaps with a few perks, perhaps not. Either way...I want Timber and Dire Wolf mechs...so I will probably end up having to get both packages

[RapidFire7]

True that... even if they just wanted to do a "Pick and Choose" option, I'd be perfectly happy with that. I don't really care about the extra's... I believe it's the fact that this pricing model forces users to buy mechs they don't want that is causing the community to go up in arms. Operation Phoenix wasn't so bad, it was just a novelty thing for Merc Corps and the price was pretty good. This is different, as each tier is more expensive than in the Phoenix Packages and there is twice as many mechs available.

If PGI want to do a "Pick and Choose" option without throwing in the extras, I'd happily open my wallet. I'm confident that many of you other guys (and gals) reading this would agree