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[Summon3r]

anyone experiencing the odd freeze up here and there that alt+tab out of game and back in seems to fix? it is extremely annoying specially if you are in the middle of a firefight... few buddies of mine have the same issue. does anyone know of a fix for this?

Thx

[Durant Carlyle]

In my experience, this problem is due to the graphics driver crashing and rebooting itself. In my case, I had just installed a new graphics card and was experimenting with how high I could push it.

It wouldn't freeze all of the time, just once every three or four matches. Alt-Tabbing twice got me back into the game every time. While I was Alt-Tabbing, I could spot the message in the lower-right corner saying that the graphics driver had crashed and rebooted itself. Once I set it below a certain overclock, the problem stopped and hasn't occurred again.

When people have this problem, I recommend using software like EVGA Precision X or MSI Afterburner to down-clock your GPU and Video Memory speeds (yes, both) by 30 MHz to see if that stops the problem or makes it happen less often.

It is not uncommon for a factory or manual overclock to become unstable as the graphics card ages. It is also not uncommon to have brand new factory-overclocked graphics cards be not completely stable. They don't test every one before it leaves the factory -- it would be too expensive to do so.

[Flying Judgement]

i had it every 10th game may be more. Most of my friends had the same problem. i guess most of us didnt bother reporting it as it become second nature to just quickly alt tab and back
its a common problem after some patches its hapens a lot more.
i got use to it a loooooooonnnnnnnnnnggggggg time ago XD bad habit should have report it.
i know around 25-30 ppl afected by it from 100 + + +

[Sen]

I'm not so sure about that. We know that a lot of times lower performance SKUs on CPU's are actually just one part number that doesn't perform quite to spec [Perfect example were the three core AMDs, where it was so common that it was a quad with a shut off core that they built into performance motherboards the ability to attempt to activate them]

By the same token, Aren't most GPUs these days one part that's had some of it's functionality shut off to limit it's abilities? [this is an oversimplification] For example, the GTX 780ti is a fully unlocked GK110, while the original 780 and GTX titan are partially locked. Wouldn't the manufacturer *HAVE* to test them in order to classify them into binned tiers so they can be branded, packaged, and sold?

[Summon3r]

Durant it would seem this issue is very common in the mwo community. Seems like it would be a issue with the game itself and not people's gpu's? I do use precision X to very slightly over clock my 660ti. Not sure how to use that program to lower clock speeds?

[Durant Carlyle]

You just move the GPU Clock Offset and Mem Clock Offset sliders to the left instead of to the right in Precision X, then click Apply. Easy as that. Make the speeds 30 MHz less than they are now.

Example:
GPU Clock Offset -- if +5 now, move to -25
Mem Clock Offset -- if +50 now, move to +20

The GPU speed could be the cause, or the Video Memory speed could be the cause, which is why I recommend reducing them both to see if it helps. If it does, you can leave them like that. Or you could do what I would do and increase them both by 5 MHz, test for 20 matches, and if no problems, increase by 5 MHz again, then test again ... until you run into the problem again. Then back off by 5 MHz and leave it there.

If you find that the final speeds that work without problems are in the negatives, and the graphics card is within its warranty, you can request an RMA from the manufacturer. Negative numbers mean that it's not working at the default speed (default speed would be 0 on the sliders), so there is something wrong in the graphics card hardware.

Sen, on 11 January 2014 - 07:12 PM, said:

I'm not so sure about that. We know that a lot of times lower performance SKUs on CPU's are actually just one part number that doesn't perform quite to spec [Perfect example were the three core AMDs, where it was so common that it was a quad with a shut off core that they built into performance motherboards the ability to attempt to activate them]

By the same token, Aren't most GPUs these days one part that's had some of it's functionality shut off to limit it's abilities? [this is an oversimplification] For example, the GTX 780ti is a fully unlocked GK110, while the original 780 and GTX titan are partially locked. Wouldn't the manufacturer *HAVE* to test them in order to classify them into binned tiers so they can be branded, packaged, and sold?

Nope. The individual components (GPU itself, maybe memory chips) might have a quick test or two run so they can be "binned," but most of them are not fully tested. Only a small number of them (maybe 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000 depending on the component) actually have a full battery of tests done. If the one passes all of the tests, that whole batch is assumed to be good. If the one fails the tests, the whole batch is sent back to be "re-binned." That's the way everything in the computer hardware world is -- CPUs, mainboards, graphics cards, USB drives, hard drives, SSDs, etc. Manufacturers would need triple the number of employees if they actually tested every single component.

[Grey Death Storm]

Summon3r, on 11 January 2014 - 07:34 PM, said:

Durant it would seem this issue is very common in the mwo community. Seems like it would be a issue with the game itself and not people's gpu's? I do use precision X to very slightly over clock my 660ti. Not sure how to use that program to lower clock speeds?

HI Summon3r

SPEC
i5-3470 3.2GHZ
12g RAM
EVGA 660ti 2gig

I don't have any of these problems your experanicing however i do have a high end gaming rig, My suggestions would be is go into control panel in Windows look for Administrative Tools and you want to look up Event Viewer - this will contain entire history log of everything that happens on your computer. In event viewer look up windows logs it will be top left side corner in list this will show you what is happening time your problem occurred

What to do take note of the time and date that problem occurs in the Windows logs it will tell you what's is happening when you are experiencing these problems.

Also may be a good Idea to Update your Graphics Drivers.

It is possible you may have another program or process running in the background which may be draining resources in the background i.e Anti virus doing a scan or something draining your resources.

[Izzob]

I use to get this allot of the time when I had Vsync on, as well as the texture bug on frozen city. Since I turned it off I don't get it anymore.

Give it a try my well work for you. If you still get it turn motion blur off.

Hope this helps.

[Summon3r]

Death storm Thank you I will check these logs when I get home. .. I do have the latest nvidia drivers installed...

Snaloe I currently have vsync turned off. Thx tho

[dario03]

Are you talking about a long freeze or like a real short pause? I get the short pause which seems to last for less than half a second but really throws me off. It sometimes happens multiple times in games but I've never tried alt tab to fix it. Usually going from one match to a next changes how bad it happens though. Changing graphics settings doesn't seem to help and I've tried everything from medium to very high. I was thinking maybe something to do with lag but my ping is usually decently stable and around 30. However yesterday I noticed the problem a lot more than usual and my ping and almost everyones pings where jumping all over the place (mine was between 30 and 450 when checking it).

[Summon3r]

It's a long freeze if I don't tab out it stays frozen. I have not experienced what u are. But seems a good portion of the community are having the issue I am talking about :-/

[Grey Death Storm]

Summon3r, on 12 January 2014 - 04:47 PM, said:

It's a long freeze if I don't tab out it stays frozen. I have not experienced what u are. But seems a good portion of the community are having the issue I am talking about :-/

How fast is your broadband as this is an online game may need to check broadband speed

[Summon3r]

My Internet is very fast its cable not sure the actual speed ping never goes above 80 either

[Durant Carlyle]

Have you tried the de-clocking yet?

Just because "a good portion of the community"** is having a similar problem doesn't mean it isn't hardware-related in your case -- especially since you admit to overclocking using Precision X.

**Note: It isn't actually common at all, and only a very small portion of the community is having problems like it. Besides, it's entirely possible that every single problem of this type is related to GPU speed. Graphics cards can have problems even when not overclocked.

[Izzob]

Try running the game in full window mode rather than full screen.

[Summon3r]

Durant i havent had the issue in 2 days now, i am waiting for it to happen again then i will check the logs as suggested above and also try the declocking as u have said. although when i open my precision X the sliders stop at 0. :-/

[Grey Death Storm]

Summon3r, on 13 January 2014 - 06:24 PM, said:

Durant i havent had the issue in 2 days now, i am waiting for it to happen again then i will check the logs as suggested above and also try the declocking as u have said. although when i open my precision X the sliders stop at 0. :-/

Hi Summon3r

I should point out that overclocking hardware can lead to system stability issue, way to trouble shoot is ask your self before overclocking were you getting this problem with freezing ? if the answer is yes I would probably should rest your clock value.

The key thing to remember is when you change something always ask yourself did i have this problem before the changes I have made.

[Summon3r]

Well its been days now since I've had a freeze up and probably played around 30-40 drops. ... nvidia did release new drivers which I installed so who knows maybe that did the trick

[Grey Death Storm]

Summon3r, on 14 January 2014 - 06:27 PM, said:

Well its been days now since I've had a freeze up and probably played around 30-40 drops. ... nvidia did release new drivers which I installed so who knows maybe that did the trick

any more problem give us a shout