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#1 JC Daxion

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 02:20 PM

I remember some old mechs from Mech 3 and 4, and mech commander that i really loved. I was currious if anyone has heard of any talk of these mechs being added down the road.

I could be off on the tonage, it has been a while since i played with all these mechs.. feel free to correct me where i am mistaken..


First off, Is the new thunderbolt, suppose to be a Thor? It kinda reminds me of one, but seems lighter, and looks a bit different than the classic i remember.


Bushwacker. Was a 55 ton mech, that you could load AC's and LRM's, i think it even had room for energy, and perhaps machine guns. Was a bit stout mech with decent armor that i really enjoyed.

(for get the name, But this was a huge assault that could carry AC'10's thing was just an A monster.. I think you fought it in an early mission, and earned one much later in the game) Mech 3,


Puma, 30 tons? This was a dual PPC mech, that was very fast, and short. It had large armor wrapped round it's sides protecting it's arm, and head. One tough mech that only legging was a good option to take it down.


Cougar, 40 tons?? this was a clanner mech, Had LRM's or SRM's and lasers.. Very fast, and hit hard from long range.

Hollander, 45 tons..Nothing says bad arse mech like a giant Gauss rifle on your shoulder. medium up weight, fast long range support.

Uler, 35 tons A light weight, AC 2 machine. Was always a fun fast ranged mech, with some beefy support.. reminds me a bit of a raven..

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 02:29 PM

The Bushwacker doesn't go into development until 3053.

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 02:39 PM

View PostRoland, on 21 January 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

The Bushwacker doesn't go into development until 3053.

That's when it was mass produced if I remember correctly, they did have prototypes in 3050 though but suffered from technical issues and were about to be scrapped until the IS reversed engineered Clan tech based off the Mad dog.

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 09:17 PM

Daxion should read Sarna a bit.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page

And the monster mech you're talking about is probably the Annihilator.

Edited by Qurrah, 21 January 2014 - 09:18 PM.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:42 AM

I'll have to reread my battletech book I thought it was made earlier but not mainstream until 3053 was basically a failed attempt at a omnimech.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:07 AM

Your half right. The Bushwacker was developed PRIOR to the Clan invasion. but it had problems with it's reactor because it's wider then it is tall. so the cassis was placed on the back burner. However with the Clan invasion it got a second chance at life, Inner sphere tech's salvaged Clan tech and used it to improve the Gyro systems and reactor for it. I don't know for sure when it hit mass production stage. but I am 99% sure that it was first mass produced on Hesparis II by House Stiner because of the large number of mech factory's there. as for its load out. I believe that by default it has 2 Missile points, one on it's shoulder and left arm. the right arm holds an AC10. a single Large laser is built into the center torso along with 2 Machine guns for Anti infantry work. I'm fairly sure that eventuly they up graded it into an Omni but again. I'm not 100% sure.

But for 55 tonner it kicks @$$

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:33 AM

The Bushwacker has been one of the most desired mechs in the community, but in addition to being out of timeline, it would also have to fit into the already overloaded 55 ton weight class. Don't expect it for a while.

The monster mech you are referring to does sound like an Annihilator. It fits well in its weight class, but the current meta of the game would make an assault with 4 separate ballistic hardpoints way OP. I think its stock config of 4 lb10x ACs would dominate just about any other build in the game. Don't hold your breath on this one coming soon.

Clan mechs are coming starting in June. Puma and Uller are part of that package, but I think the Cougar is a few years away yet.

#8 JC Daxion

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:37 AM

wow, you guys know your battle tech!

I guess i am just a casual fan, as the only BT i know are the mech warrior, and mech commander games.. though i do recall a battle tech TV show back when i was a kid. really wish i could find it on dvd or digital DL..

#9 Darwins Dog

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:57 AM

I know it's not quite the same, but you can make one out of a SHD-2H. It's a rather fun loadout, although not well suited to the typical MWO style of play.

I'd rather have the actual buchwacker too, but if you need a quick fix...

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:57 AM

View PostRoland, on 21 January 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

The Bushwacker doesn't go into development until 3053.


Why does this matter? They've basically abandoned the original timeline, and even if they hadn't it's not like they're operating under some moral imperative not to make exceptions. The question is whether the bushwhacker would fill any currently-empty niches, or compliment any particular existing mech. Basically, what's best for the game should always trump sticking strictly to canon.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:43 PM

View PostJC Daxion, on 22 January 2014 - 10:37 AM, said:

wow, you guys know your battle tech!

I guess i am just a casual fan, as the only BT i know are the mech warrior, and mech commander games.. though i do recall a battle tech TV show back when i was a kid. really wish i could find it on dvd or digital DL..


YouTube, my friend. That TV show was what got me into battletech/mechwarrior years ago. There was only 1 season, and I think every episode is on youtube, but be warned: it hasn't aged well.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 03:51 PM

View Posttucsonspeed6, on 22 January 2014 - 12:43 PM, said:

YouTube, my friend. That TV show was what got me into battletech/mechwarrior years ago. There was only 1 season, and I think every episode is on youtube, but be warned: it hasn't aged well.

Like most cartoons from the early 90s?

I would however love if they made a modern day cartoon/live action series of it, but instead of the Clan invasion they made it about the early Succession Wars. Bring on Game of Thrones in space.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 04:23 PM

View PostJC Daxion, on 21 January 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

I remember some old mechs from Mech 3 and 4, and mech commander that i really loved. I was currious if anyone has heard of any talk of these mechs being added down the road.

I could be off on the tonage, it has been a while since i played with all these mechs.. feel free to correct me where i am mistaken..

First off, Is the new thunderbolt, suppose to be a Thor? It kinda reminds me of one, but seems lighter, and looks a bit different than the classic i remember.

Bushwacker. Was a 55 ton mech, that you could load AC's and LRM's, i think it even had room for energy, and perhaps machine guns. Was a bit stout mech with decent armor that i really enjoyed.

(for get the name, But this was a huge assault that could carry AC'10's thing was just an A monster.. I think you fought it in an early mission, and earned one much later in the game) Mech 3,

Puma, 30 tons? This was a dual PPC mech, that was very fast, and short. It had large armor wrapped round it's sides protecting it's arm, and head. One tough mech that only legging was a good option to take it down.

Cougar, 40 tons?? this was a clanner mech, Had LRM's or SRM's and lasers.. Very fast, and hit hard from long range.

Hollander, 45 tons..Nothing says bad arse mech like a giant Gauss rifle on your shoulder. medium up weight, fast long range support.

Uler, 35 tons A light weight, AC 2 machine. Was always a fun fast ranged mech, with some beefy support.. reminds me a bit of a raven..


Thunderbolt is a legit mech and wasn't based off the Thor, in fact I'd say the opposite as Thunderbolt was created before Thor.

Puma/Adder is 35 tons. Cougar is 35 tons. Uller/Kit Fox is 30 tons. Hollander 1 is 35 tons, Hollander 2 is 45 tons.

Bushwacker would be a nice little mech for the mediums, though if anything we need balance to our already here mechs and CW and stuff like that.





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