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[Superslicks]

like I said 9 team loses, and this seems quite the norm now, something is not quite right with this game.....
I will retire just for today and see what tomorrow brings.
regards
josh

Edited by Superslicks, 25 January 2014 - 09:13 AM.

[wanderer]

Superslicks, on 25 January 2014 - 09:13 AM, said:

like I said 9 team loses, and this seems quite the norm now, something is not quite right with this game.....
I will retire just for today and see what tomorrow brings.
regards
josh

If you're in a PUG, you're not on a team.

You're in a random mob, one which often suffers at the whim of a matchmaker that doesn't balance tonnage and can't take into account the teamwork an actual premade lance brings vs. 12 random soloers.

[PhoenixFire55]

wanderer, on 25 January 2014 - 09:15 AM, said:

If you're in a PUG, you're not on a team.

PUG team is still a team. If more people understood that PUGs would have been far more deadly.

[DerelictTomcat]

Never had this problem on the zone with earlier MW titles.

Wait until a Sunday when all you get are pug stomps on one of three maps. Try 6-9 losses in a row on three maps.

Its not the matchmaker is working bad it is just a stupid idea that is bad.

No choice is what really stinks.

Edited by DerelictTomcat, 25 January 2014 - 09:26 AM.

[Superslicks]

Please don't give me that if your in a team {Scrap}, I've seen and been in many a game were pugs have ripped premades apart.
Its just, I've noticed you ether lose badly in this game or you win, or put it this way I will lose horribly for a couple of days then I will start wining for a couple of days, it just seem like a trend.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Team gets early uperhand, team snowballs.

flawless victory.

Nothing wrong here.

I know it's hard, but two teams one wins one loses (and a draw very rarely)

Edited by DV McKenna, 25 January 2014 - 09:32 AM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

wanderer, on 25 January 2014 - 09:15 AM, said:

If you're in a PUG, you're not on a team.

You're in a random mob, one which often suffers at the whim of a matchmaker that doesn't balance tonnage and can't take into account the teamwork an actual premade lance brings vs. 12 random soloers.

If players can learn that there's more to the battlefield that whats going on with their mechs we wouldn't be having this convo.

[Calamus]

Superslicks: I've noticed the same, and I've heard it from too many people for it to just be coincidence.

It's almost like once you've reached the pinnacle of your ELO rating it will consistently match you against higher ELO players until you're much lower down than you were before.

With me it makes for extremely inconsistent gameplay. When I play with clan mates who have played for a long time, and/or are on the same level of skill as I am, then we win quite consistently, or at least when we lose a match it's a closer, well played match. But when I drop with new clanmates, or clanmates with less skill than I have, this is where I run into a string of poorly matched games.

Day 1: I play with player A, B, and C. All 4 of us are good players, and close to the same level. We have a great day tearing mechs apart.

The next day I decide to drop with Sibkin. They're either new to the game, or simply aren't as skilled at playing. We will get ROFLstomped all day long. And I mean, much longer than 6-9 game losing streaks. I don't know if my higher ELO and their lower ELO is causing the game to step us up when it doesn't find a great match, or if there is just that big of a gap between the lower ELO and high ELO gamers? Is it possible that there just isn't a middle class ELO to match against?

I dunno. They're so tight lipped about the ELO that I don't even know how it works. I just know that it isn't very consistent, or in my opinion, good.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Superslicks, on 25 January 2014 - 09:23 AM, said:

Please don't give me that if your in a team {Scrap}, I've seen and been in many a game were pugs have ripped premades apart.
Its just, I've noticed you ether lose badly in this game or you win, or put it this way I will lose horribly for a couple of days then I will start wining for a couple of days, it just seem like a trend.

just because people dont wanna be in teams doesn't mean they dont know what their doing, i dunno, unless your a new players theirs no excuse.

[St4LkeRxF]

Superslicks, on 25 January 2014 - 09:13 AM, said:

like I said 9 team loses, and this seems quite the norm now, something is not quite right with this game.....
I will retire just for today and see what tomorrow brings.
regards
josh

If you die early do you exit match and start to search for new one or you wait for match to end?

Edited by St4LkeRxF, 25 January 2014 - 09:54 AM.

[Superslicks]

I normally sit it out to see how it goes, but lately I have been just quitting after I die. but that's because I no my team is going to lose.

Edited by Superslicks, 25 January 2014 - 09:57 AM.

[stjobe]

Funny, I've been winning all day; I think I'm about 12:1 W:L right now. In solo PUGs, of course.

[Mystere]

Were those 9 straight loses stomps (12-0/2) or close games? If they're the latter, I don't think you should be complaining about those.

[St4LkeRxF]

Superslicks, on 25 January 2014 - 09:57 AM, said:

I normally sit it out to see how it goes, but lately I have been just quitting after I die. but that's because I no my team is going to lose.

Sometimes when you exit game before it ends you will get same "luck" as in match before, same thing can happen if your team is on way to victory and you exit game and search for new.

[Dan Nashe]

It happens. We tend to remember losing streaks more than winning streaks. The real question is what's your overall w/l for the last 2 months? Probably about 1/1?

[Darius Deadeye]

9 games, each with very different teammates?

You might have lost, but someone else won. They might have won 9 games in a row.

It could be someones first time playing, and he might win 20 games in a row.

You losing 9 games in a row is based on completely random circumstances.

Even if you had lost 20 games in a row,the circumstances would be completely random.

Chances are just as good that you would have been placed on the winning side.

...

There you go. Like life, this game and who you are paired with, is based on chance, further based on numbers that don't factor into account human behaviour, bad days, good days and luck. Don't like luck? Pair up with others, - but even then, there's always the chance...

[Capt Sternn]

Got you beat, one Saturday I had 16 loses in a row. I didn't think it was possible to continually losing the Pug-Lottery that number of times in row, but it happened.

[Nick Makiaveli]

Superslicks, on 25 January 2014 - 09:23 AM, said:

Please don't give me that if your in a team {Scrap}, I've seen and been in many a game were pugs have ripped premades apart.
Its just, I've noticed you ether lose badly in this game or you win, or put it this way I will lose horribly for a couple of days then I will start wining for a couple of days, it just seem like a trend.

Please read the below quote if you haven't already. Most times all it takes is one mistake, ie 1-4 mechs wander off and then it's 12v8 and that's a loss.

That said, I don't by the pre-made boogeyman bit. People always complain about pre-mades tearing up their PUG team, and act like they so common they show up on almost every enemy team, but not so common that they are on their team.

Which is BS.

People also like to assume that any lance with more than 1 person of the same House is a pre-made. The enemy team is alphabetized by name in the pre-game screen, so can't use that as proof. Second, just because there are 4 Steiner players on the enemy team it doesn't mean they are grouped. I remember one night my lance had been on a losing streak then Bravo turned out to have 3 Liao players and a LW. So we, excitedly I might add, asked if they were a pre-made and it turned out it was just a coincidence.

Again, read the below quote as that is often the case. A mistake is made, or the enemy team just gets some lucky shots and it's over.

DV McKenna, on 25 January 2014 - 09:31 AM, said:

Team gets early uperhand, team snowballs.

flawless victory.

Nothing wrong here.

I know it's hard, but two teams one wins one loses (and a draw very rarely)

[MischiefSC]

My record, I think, was 16 straight losses. Like being fed into a meat grinder.

Funny thing? That chassis still has a 1.47 win/loss. I don't recall having had a 16 game winning streak but people don't remember winning as much as they remember losing.

I strongly agree with just stopping for the night. It can get very frustrating.

All part of playing any game though, be in MW:O or checkers or poker. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. If you want to always win, play a single player game. Save and reload.

[Sandpit]

Superslicks, on 25 January 2014 - 09:23 AM, said:

Please don't give me that if your in a team {Scrap}, I've seen and been in many a game were pugs have ripped premades apart.

That doesn't fit into the whole "MM made me lose" agenda though.