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[Bacon_Warrior88]

Hello everyone,

Lets just get to it.

How in the hell is the Jenner the universally acknowledged "Best Light" in the game. Screw the jenner. I run the cicada in beast mode. I have included a few builds for your viewing pleasure.

Cicada pilots are taking this ***** over,

so deal deal with it

[smurfy]http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1eda306409c5057[/smurfy]
Can swap the LL for ERLL if you like

[smurfy]http://mwo.smurfy-ne...976ab32420c712e[/smurfy]

WE ALL know this one.

I'll see your smoking corpses on the feild

Don't be stupid and and mention the fact that its technically a medium, because i technically think your a *****.

[Amsro]

Well the cicada is the WORST medium, so it wins in that aspect.

Works well as a giant light mech, for some at least.

BTW, Nice Rack!

[CDLord HHGD]

My Jenner AND Death's Knell eats Cicadas for lunch so....

[Deathlike]

The answer and always will be JJs.

If I wait for a Cicada to RTB on a map like Canyon or even Terra Therma, it might take a while longer.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Yea, well my Locust 1V eats Cicadas for Lunch...no really, those things are getting stuck in the heat sink vents all the time....huh...what...OH you mean the Cicada mech? Nah, my Locust 1V gets detroyed by those all the time.

[627]

i really love my cicadas but if I have to solo a jenner I really try to get out and avoid that fight.

Jenner have
- same or better weapons
- more free tonnage for weapons OR better top speed
- jumpjets
- better agility ( movement, turning, speeding up und down)
- smaller size

In a 1on1 with equal skill you'll lose.

Edited by 627, 06 February 2014 - 11:26 AM.

[meteorol]

You do realize that the cicada is a medium mech and not a light?
Btw, the jenner "could" lose its crown to the firestarter.

Edited by meteorol, 06 February 2014 - 09:23 AM.

[Deathlike]

meteorol, on 06 February 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

You do realize that the cicada is a medium mech and not a light?
Btw, the jenner "could" lose its crown to the firestarter.

I need more time to evaluate this, but since it is the mini-Commando, stripping the Firestarter of its arms is lot easier than people think... not that the Firestarter is automatically crippled, but if you have those 4 MGs on the Ember left, it's a worse Spider-5K under that situation. The Spider's tiny arms compared to the Firestarter is kind of a difference maker...

I still use Streaks, and they still kill lights, so I'll just chuckle at that thought.

Edited by Deathlike, 06 February 2014 - 09:32 AM.

[meteorol]

Deathlike, on 06 February 2014 - 09:31 AM, said:

I need more time to evaluate this, but since it is the mini-Commando, stripping the Firestarter of its arms is lot easier than people think... not that the Firestarter is automatically crippled, but if you have those 4 MGs on the Ember left, it's a worse Spider-5K under that situation. The Spider's tiny arms compared to the Firestarter is kind of a difference maker...

I still use Streaks, and they still kill lights, so I'll just chuckle at that thought.

TBH, i have no idea what the firestarter plays like. I have zero drops outside of assault mechs. I just read quite a few light pilots stating it could have an advantage compared to the jenner because it spreads damage better (the jenner is basically a walking CT on legs).

To me it's just another little thing that doesn't respond well to ac20 shells or double ppcs

[Steelgrave]

meteorol, on 06 February 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

You do realize that the cicada is a medium mech and not a light?
Btw, the jenner "could" lose its crown to the firestarter.

Statistically speaking, back in the old 3025 Tech Manual, the Cicada was precisely an upgunned Locust. Statistically identical in all other respects.

Of course I know that's not the case here, but it does put things in perspective a bit.

[zztophat]

Does it seem odd to anyone else that cicadas manage to be both less combat effective than jenners and more expensive?

[Deathlike]

zztophat, on 06 February 2014 - 10:07 AM, said:

Does it seem odd to anyone else that cicadas manage to be both less combat effective than jenners and more expensive?

It's the ECM that covers its major deficiency - and it's only one variant.

[DONTOR]

meteorol, on 06 February 2014 - 09:47 AM, said:

TBH, i have no idea what the firestarter plays like. I have zero drops outside of assault mechs. I just read quite a few light pilots stating it could have an advantage compared to the jenner because it spreads damage better (the jenner is basically a walking CT on legs).

To me it's just another little thing that doesn't respond well to ac20 shells or double ppcs

Us light pilots love that you have PPCs, all the more fun to strip your AC, and watch you wiggle within 90M. Unless were dealing with someone else and dont notice you quick enough lol.

[LastPaladin]

I like the 3M. Before the gauss nerf, I would use a gauss and 2 medium lasers on it, but now I have been running this, and it works pretty well:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...bde2890c8956822

[Bishop Steiner]

Tiggo Bitties, on 06 February 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

Don't be stupid and and mention the fact that its technically a medium, because i technically think your a *****.

Well, no technically about it, you are wrong, period, and thus, your opinion makes you the !diot.

meteorol, on 06 February 2014 - 09:47 AM, said:

TBH, i have no idea what the firestarter plays like. I have zero drops outside of assault mechs. I just read quite a few light pilots stating it could have an advantage compared to the jenner because it spreads damage better (the jenner is basically a walking CT on legs).

To me it's just another little thing that doesn't respond well to ac20 shells or double ppcs

yet funnily enough, I find your Fatlas doesn't respond at all well to my ShadowHawk, which is great at eating assault mechs for breakfast.

Ah, the circle of life!

[meteorol]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 February 2014 - 12:57 PM, said:

yet funnily enough, I find your Fatlas doesn't respond at all well to my ShadowHawk, which is great at eating assault mechs for breakfast.

Ah, the circle of life!

My Fatlas hasn't seen the battlefield for quite a few months now. Highlanders and Victors all the way since they have been released
I feel rather sure when engaging shadowhawks in them, but hey, maybe i'll find my master in a shadowhawk sooner or later.
Each to his own.
On a side node, my comment wasn't ment as a "OMGZORZ ME PWN ALL THE LIGHTS" kind of posts. Cheers

[Mercules]

Tiggo Bitties, on 06 February 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

Don't be stupid and and mention the fact that its technically a medium, because i technically think your a *****.

Well, it's not "technically" a Medium, it is a Medium mech. What it "technically" would be is an oversized Light.

Most other same class mechs will eat your builds 1 on 1.

[Bishop Steiner]

meteorol, on 06 February 2014 - 01:18 PM, said:

My Fatlas hasn't seen the battlefield for quite a few months now. Highlanders and Victors all the way since they have been released
I feel rather sure when engaging shadowhawks in them, but hey, maybe i'll find my master in a shadowhawk sooner or later.
Each to his own.
On a side node, my comment wasn't ment as a "OMGZORZ ME PWN ALL THE LIGHTS" kind of posts. Cheers

Not taken that way! As I said, Assaults taste great! But they do occasionally cause indigestion!

[DarkDevilDancer]

Jenners jj means it'll win against a cicada because it has both higher speed and superior agility, that combined with the fact jenners have their weapons arm mounted means a jenner can just get above you out of your max elevation and cut you up at leisure.

[Craig Steele]

Cicada 40 tons = medium class

Jenner 35 tons = light class

Cicada is good no doubt, especially with raw speed and ECM, but it's a medium.

Jenner is still king of the lights, but the firestarter may have something to say about that