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[Tesunie]

Khobai, on 30 March 2014 - 04:31 PM, said:

Except PGI has said they want IS and Clan mechs to be equal. For that reason, clan tech cant be significantly better than IS tech.

For a CERPPC to do 15 damage and be equal to an IS ERPPC it's going to have to generate like 20+ heat.

Same with the CGAUSS. Since it weighs 3 tons less than IS Gauss, its going to have to have a much longer cooldown to offset the lower weight.

Probably best to change the cool down cycle times. They could also incorperate a splash like effect, giving it a 9-10 damage base, and a small splash radius...? Might be bad considered splash on missiles and what wonky things they did... but it could be an option if splash could be redone...

MisterPlanetarian, on 30 March 2014 - 04:36 PM, said:

Clans ONLY have ER variants. A fair trade would be to give them minimum range and keep the damage/heat as is. 10/10 is also acceptable.

Best way to balance it is to give them longer cycle times to impact DPS more. Especially for their ballistic weapons.

They mentioned (as a concept) to have ER weapons (or rather clan lasers in general) have a longer beam duration, meaning they will require more skill to keep them on target to do full damage. A minimum range would just about negate the clans.

Clan Ultra ACs could also have not only a longer recycle rate (balanced by the Ultra mechanic), but also have increased jam.

Gauss could have a longer charge up time, or a shorter "charge hold" time. Meaning you will have to either charge it sooner, or release the round in a smaller window. Heat could also maybe be changed, as any Gauss I believe does 1 heat, it could do 2 or 2.5 heat generated instead.

Don't forget though, clans can't adjust their engines (as of this time to my last knowledge). This in and of itself will highly limit what the clans can bring into their mechs. Having lighter stuff will help with the fact that they can't lower (or raise) their engine to fit more things in. On top of that, their armor values will now also have to take up their "pod" space, as most everyone will probably max out their armor values. This will take away from precious pod space, farther reducing their ability to alter their mechs. Slightly more powerful weapons might still be needed with these other pieces of clan tech being considered. They very well may need to have the lighter weapons to fit in anything once they max out their armor, which also means they will have less pod space compared to stock versions.

AKA: Look at it as a whole unit for balance, and not just each weapons system. If you look at each weapon system alone, you will be trying to make balance "issues" without considering all of balance being considered.

(It's like looking at the current LRMs and saying "They move too fast now!" My response is, "is it really the speed? Or could other things be changed to help bring them more into balance?" I say this because we can still adjust spread, TAG, NARC, Artemis, flight arc, etc. Speed is not the only factor when being considered for balance on LRMs. (But this would be divergent from the topic if discussed more here, and is only being brought here as an example.)

[Tesunie]

FupDup, on 30 March 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

To be fair, the IS ERPPC can actually be a pretty nice weapon if you only have a single type of PPC. But more than one, yeah then it isn't always the greatest option...

Shadowhawk 2D2: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0ef2b36422b21b2

I seem to want to beg to differ here... Just don't alpha them together, chain fire them is the way to go...

[Devil Fox]

Clan weapons are going to come in equivalent to IS weapons... that's what they've stated, I think they'll nerf the Clans into the ground by citing the modular nature of the hardpoints... but at too much cost compared to IS mechs which can be made wiley niley!

[KuroNyra]

The Thor is a lie. That beautiful mech is a Summoner.
Also, you seeem to forget that the Summoner was since the beginning armed with just a few weapon's.
BUT, in the other hand. The Summoner was able to carry jump jet giving very good mobility. + his speed.

That mech will be a beast on the brawling combat.
But weak on the long rang open field combat.

[Groove Crusader Blue]

I think everyone has missed the "specs subject to change" at the bottom right.

if you look at the hardpoints of each clan mechs they have just enough for the weapons they mount. look at the summoner (thor) it has 1 missile 1 ballistic and 1 energy, enough for its weapons. another example would be the kit fox (uller) which has 2 energy weapons and 1 missile and 1 ballistic, anough for its weapons.

with this in mid the thor is bound to have more hardpoints in the future and probably announced nearer to the release date.

[Shadewolfe]

Real quick. Everyone is talking about three variants but they said you can get omnipods from variants that you can't buy the whole mech for.

[Mister Blastman]

Sephlock, on 18 February 2014 - 05:05 PM, said:

Don't worry, guys!

Don't overreact until you know all the facts.

3 hardpoints is PLENTY for the power that Clan tech will have over IS tech!

http://www.reddit.co...er_over/cf9j0fg

http://www.reddit.co...ruction/cf6jvma

http://mwomercs.com/...60-no-2x-uac20/

http://mwomercs.com/...ch-incentivize/

Won't there be a bonus for using a matched set of limbs?

And all of the above is the reason among others why I won't give them a dime for the clan packages. N.O.P.E.

Khobai, on 18 February 2014 - 06:36 PM, said:

From the Command Chair Post:

"To balance this out, each OmniPod can be given its own set of quirks that will apply to any 'Mech that has it equipped.

• Each OmniPod has a set of quirk modifiers.
  
  • These are positive and negative values that are added to the respective value in the base configuration"

My understanding is that the values assigned are respective to the base configuration, omnipods that are better than the base omnipods will get negative quirks, while omnipods that are worse than the base omnipods will get positive quirks. Which means the Thor will get negative quirks for using the config B omnipods. The Thor could very well end up being one of the worst mechs in the game.

What is going to be funny is that the Clans have two jumpers to start, the Nova and the Summoner. Against an entire 12-man of Inner Sphere Jump Snipers, they are going to get rolled hard. All that shiny Clan tech will make a great scrapheap with the brilliant system of balance we have in this game today--and the proposed (theorized) one for Clans.

[Mechteric]

I would guess when they get around to balancing it they'll see they need to add more hardpoints. I mean just look at the new ShadowHawk K variant, its got 3 missile and 3 energy hardpoints yet its stock config is 1 LRM5 and 1 PPC. It just makes sense they'll add more hardpoints by the time we see it.

[Mystere]

Bishop Steiner, on 18 February 2014 - 06:45 PM, said:

while possible, the trend on here to complain about a feature before we even know what it will be is rather tiresome.

Also it is "YOUR UNDERSTANDING" that the non stock will be negative,. but that is not what is actually said. It is simply sated that the pods will have positive AND negative quirks. Anything more is pure speculation.

Does anyone still remember all the hullabaloo about 3PV, in which almost everybody including their pet goat were screaming that the world as we all know it will soon cease to exist?

Sigh!

[Utilyan]

Ṱ̮̤̫ͯ̏͌͂h̞̞̮̟̥ͨ̏̽̉̂ͥ̚i̝̗̥͖ͭͮ͛͆͂̋̂s̅̈̈̇ͩͦ̓͏̙͎ ͈͖̣͚̑̑̅̃͟i̵ͤͤͩ͋s̞̦͕̱͗̇̆̍̌̍̎ ̰̼ͬ͒̋̏́͒H͙͎̜̳̼͉̺͒́Q̅ͨ̈ͬ̑ͤ͘ ̩̪̓̃̄ͧ̿͗t̃͏̲̺͖̝̻o̮̟̓ ͗ͥ͋͂ͯ̀ͯa͛̂̂ͮ͗n͈͟ý͉̻̯̲̪ͨͬ̔ͬ̽ͤ͂̑ͯ̇̉҉͔̙͇͖͟͟͟͝i̳̦͍̥̗̖̗͈̘̩͕͔̮͎̮̮̎̒ͫͥͤ̒̏̽͛̂ͥ̀͟ͅş̨̭̫̭̣̹̣̺͖ͩ̇̽̓̋̃̈͊͌̿̈͗̊͘͜ ͙̳͕̬̳̬͍̝̗̟̎ͫ͑͆ͪ̕͢H̭͔͚͓͓̺̥͓̳̯̗͉͌͊͌ͦ͐̓̏̊͂̎͡͞Q͒ͣͪ̋͒ͧ͑͋ͥ͂̾ͥͭ̊͊ͥͦ̌̈͜҉͏̛̺̖͇̱̮̥̱̣͍̤̬̤͞ ͑ͮ̍̐̇̌̈̽̀ͪ͑̉̉͆̀̑̽͏̵͈͓̲̩͉̝̬͔͚̦̞͉̼͙̳̯̯͎̀͠ṭ̶̣̖͓͙̬̖̱̪͉̰́ͦ͑̊̊̒̅̿̂ͫ̅̑̏͘͠ͅo̸̘̰̘̘ͨͭ͂ͪ̿̀͘͟͟ ̷̢̩̹̻̰̫̪͓̥͆ͥͤͮ̄͊ͧ͌ͭͦ̍̊͑a̶̷̮̮̥̠̩̖̤̺̮̽̈͛ͧ͛̃ͯͩͮͣ̑̓ͭͯͤͨ̒ͤn̍ͩͭ͐ͦ̒͆̅ͬ͑̏̇͏̷̢̧̯̺̪͚̤̤̮̖̯͞y̸͙̼͔̰̰̪̼͍͍̬̭̻̗̜͕͚͖̪͖̐ͣ̽͒ͪ̍̉̀ͬ̊ͪ͋ͥ͌͘͠͞͝ ̴̨̠̙̯̻͇̖͚̪͔̺̍̆ͣ̒̈́a̵̍͆̓̌̓ͨ̇̈́͏̸̵̻̪̳̹̫͙͙͉̜̙͔̼̲͖v̧̜͙̖͕̟͇̰͇̎̉ͮ͋̀͞͠ͅa̶̱͔̩̠̞̙̘̹̮͉͕̹͂ͮͫ̂͜ͅi͒̽ͯ͛̃̽̌̐ͩ̾ͪ͂ͥ́̚̚҉̛͓̞͙̰̗̺͓̝̠̹͕̹͈̲̲̝͜ͅl̶̸̢͕̳͉͚̳͇̟̝̪͓̥̹͊͌ͤ̑̏ͮ͂ͮͦ̃̽̌̌ͫͫͯ̓͜͡a̛̺̦̬̤͙͂̐̔͌̎ͣͭͬ͋̐͛̍̇̓̊͠b̻̱̺̩̩̘̪̝̜̻̘̖͉̞̜̻̘̌̑̉̂ͤ́͒́ͯ͊̋̈́̈̒͛͘͘͞l̵̨̑̐̑̓̆ͩ͛̋͆ͯ͑̇͐͜͏̳͉͉͈̳̮͎͉͔̬̦̺̠͖̬ē̸͔̦͎͍̞̦͈̪͓͎̗̂ͫͧͭͦͥ̃̆ͩ̆ͧ̏ͮ̀̈́͢͡͡ ̛̪͓͍̞͈̦̰̮̪̼̞̮͕̮̍͗ͫ̓̇̃͆͑ͩ͌ͬ̆̿̇͜͡ͅu̵̧̙̺̙͔̭̺͕̙̾ͤͯͧ͌͌̀̽̑̌͜͜ṉ̢̬͈̝̻͈̪̪̏̾̋̋́̆̆̿̅̓̂̾ͫͭ̉̊͡ͅͅi͋ͥ̊͌͆ͫͧ͂ͭ̐̆͐́ͯͤ́͝҉͙̬̥̹̻ţ̛͉̮̦͇̼͉̒͑̐̍̿ͥ̈́͐ͅs̵̄͆̄ͭ̇̓͗҉̙̠̪̰͍̤̝̗͈̪͔̹͘.̢͎̰̩͔̬̫̟͓ͥ̄ͫͩ̄ͥ͑͆͛́ͪͨ̂͗͐̊̀̄͠ ̷̖̣̖̝̩̺͔̯̫̰̝̟̉̓ͧ̄̒͗̿̾͐͘͝͡ͅW̵̟͖̳̩̉̽̔͟ē̓̓̚҉̣̺̦̘̩̤ ̷̢̙̬͓̗͕̰̼͔̖̫̠̝̟̋ͬ̾̉ͪͫ̀͟͢ͅh̢̡̢͔̝̰͓̙̘̪̲̳̠̹̜͙̙̩͗͊̈́̊̄ͨ͐ͦ̽̇ͧ̅͆͂͝ä̡̲͍̝̥̠̮͕̺̥͖̦̦̹̀̒ͦ̓̓̍ͪ̄̋ͫ̆͒̇́͒ͤ̚v̶̥̟̥͍͙̩̗͖̗͍̫̫͕̳̾̅ͩͭͥͥ̃ͣ̋ͯ̍͛̿̒͡͝͞͡ȩ̵͖̼̥̝̣̬͕̜͈̬̘̟͇͚̄̅ͩ͒͌͠͠ ̡̟̟̯̯̰͎͎̞̥̰̑͊̄ͥͦ̀ͣͧ̊́̓̾̃͟m̸̡̎̋ͪ͌ͧ̔̒̓̈͊͊͟͏̯͔͖̺͍̩̩̲͔͕̟̝͕e̵̴̹̼̹̼̬̝ͪ̆̑ͬ̊ͪ̏͛̅̆̌̽̓ͮ͌́̚͜ͅĉ̡̧̻̠̰͈͑̄͛ͣͫͣḩ̛ͭ̂͌ͦ̍̐̈̌̓͋̈́̎͌͢͡҉͙̯̫̤̜̞̺̘̥s̸̶̷̨̙̺̲̝̩͉̙̥̠̪͙̱̺̝̻͕̱̗̻̀ͬ͆͑͗̌ͧ̈̽͊̊̔ͬͧ̈ ̢̔̒ͦ̂̐ͦ̔͢҉̷̺̜̘̣̟͚͙̪̥̭̞͎͇dͪͤ̊͆̽̎ͤ̒͑̍̏̚͏̸̸͚̪͇̤̺͙̟̠͎̲̝̯̲͉͈͉͟o̢̤͕͙͚̭̩̞̟̤̗̳ͣ̍͐̋̊̂͗̑ͨͪͪ̊̃̀̇̎̉̊̄̀͠͠ẅ̭̖̘̥̹͍͙͖͕̙̮ͯͭͧ̋ͤ̑̾́̊͗̿̾͂̄̇̊́͝n̐̍͐ͪ̊͆͆̒̋͛ͬͮ̚҉̩̺̣͉̮̗̙͡ ̍ͧ̔͛ͥ͌̏͋ͥ̾҉̧̙͈̼͚̜a̷̟̦͙͇͈͙̱͍̟̝̟̗͎̙̙̲̻ͬ͌͌̆͊̄ͦ̍ͬ̌ͩ̓̾͒̚̚͝͝ͅṱ̵̱͙̖̳̩̱̞͚͓̠̦͎̖̉͑̏͋̎̿͒ͣ̎̊ͣ̎̔̄̓͘͢͞ ̛̰̺̭̮͓̪͙͇͚̫̯̥̘͉̐̊̀̕͢n̠̹̤͚̝̫̱͓̱̥̬͔͌͋̎̅̊̂̋̽ͯ͗̌ͮͩ̏̚̚͟͜a̋̿͛͛͟҉̬̰̳̬͔͚͓̙̠̮̭̺v̶̨ͫͣͦͦ͜͡҉̙͕̦̳̬̤̼̩͇͕͍͙ ̶̡̛̱̪͍̤͙͇̹̬̥̪͎͕̰̈̊͗̃̒̇̎̈́ͥ͋́́͂̓̀͒͑̆͆͝g̴̘̖̠͕̲͈̳̟͕͉̫͉̔ͫ̎̿͛̄͜͟͝͞ͅa̴̡͍̫̩̺͔̩̜ͩ͋̌ͯ̓ͯ̀̔ͮ̒̀́̆ͮ́ͯ͊̽̚͘͢m̸̩͚̲̲̜͓̱͍̝̟͊͗ͣͭ̂̃̑͠͞m̯͍̮̮̖̬͔̗̲͉̲̞͙ͯ̒ͬ̍̽ͮͯ̂ͩ̑͊͜͠a̧̙̮̘͔̺̗̰̪͙̖̟̹͙̣̋̋͑̀ͬ͆ͮͣͨ̈̊ͩ͆͜͟.̷̧̔ͫ͋̌̉ͥ̈̌͐ͭ̎҉̨̙̣̼̩̮̪̩ͅ ̡̞͈̥͙̮̈̆͆̎͑̿̉͛ͬ̋̅̿ͥ̎̓͋̓̕B̷̨͎͇̮̲̘͔͉͎͉̺̯̮̠̉̑̍̇͗̔͊̋͗̆̓̑ͫͫ͜͝͠r̶̛͓̪̬͈͓ͫ̿ͮ̽̿ͮ̽̆ͩ͒ͪ͞͠a̅̐͊͌͋̎̀̽ͪ̐҉̱̙͎̻̦̝̝͙͎̙̻̗̘̠̳̹̗̖͝v̀ͮ̿ͭ̐ͦ̏́̚͠͏͍̼̗̤͖̺̮̺̞͖̺͟o̸̴̻̪̘͇̖̻̭̍̌̒̍ͨ̚͜ ̸̵̝̞̱͍͉̜͇̯͎́͆͌̎̒̊̏̽̔̐̈ͨ̀́ͅc̡̛͓̙̺̥͔̭̜̼̘̝̗͖͓̜̗͇̯̄̂̓́ͩͦͯ̍̀͋̚͠ä͗͐ͯͮ̃͆̂ͦ̒̍ͦ͜҉̴͇̪͖̤͇̹̩͇̦͎̦d̶̎ͥ́ͮ̒ͦͥͭ̒̑ͧ̚͘͢͠҉̦̥̹̞͈̹͙͙͚̝ͅë̛̝͕̩̼͈̗̺̼́͆̑͋̒͛ͨ̑̔̕͟͢t̸̛̛͓̪̤̻̭̺̬̳̭̼̩͍͕̺̜̭̺̱̼͒̽͋̇̔̈ͮͮͥ̑̽ ̢̰͚̲̦͕̼̝̬̟̜̪͓̣̯̟̈ͣͮ̅̾̍̇ͪ͊̈͂͆̽͂̚͢͝͠r̓́̓ͬ̑̂͆́͒ͣͦ҉̴͕̞͖e̸̡͍͚̼̪̩̮͔̫̞ͧͦͧͭ̄ͯ͌̐̔̏͗͑͛̿̕͠ͅp̶̧ͤ̈́͛̍ͮ̌̽̏͆ͬ̃͂͏̶͇̦͔̺͙̺̫͍̲͚̳̞͍̥ͅǫ̡͚͓͕̟̖̱̹̺̫͔̳̈́̃ͦ̈́͆̍̅͑̈͋̅͛̚͡r̡̙͍̺͉̱͙̥̟̞̹̬̝̦̮̓̿̿̒ͣ͗̇̚̚͘ͅt̢̹̙̗̟̹̩͓̯̹ͦ̆͐̋́̆͌̾̿͌̉͆̚̕s̢̹̹̥̙̫͖̥̫̑͒ͧ̇̾̕͜͜ ̻̠̝̭̣̭̜̤̖̠͎̻͎̥̹̞̳̗͒͆̆̔͋́4̶̧̫̭̙̝̪̯͍̯͆ͩ̿̔ͥ̿ͭ̔̈̌ͭͣ̏ͧͬͩͬ̃͟ ̸̨̯̙͚̪̯̙͈̀̐ͯͭͨ͗̒s̶̤͎̪̭͕̭̞̲͎̖̞̯͙̤̲̺̞̤̓̅ͧ̒͂ͭ̓ͤͧ̕͢͜͠ͅu̴̵̖̼͉̜̭̼̺͊̎̎̏͌̌ͥͭ̂́̀m̓̓̍ͥ̆͋҉̝͚͚̮͎̻̜̗͕̮͎̘̰̲͎͔͇̕͞m̷̨̢̥̦͎̩̻͙̱̄̏̐ͭ̃͌̆ͤ̐̅͐̌̈́̒̄͊͌ơ͑̀͊͊ͨ͆ͩ̽͌̾ͣͯ̿̈́ͯ̊͑ͪ͒͟͜҉҉͙̪̰͚̘̺͙̩̲̩̮n̢̛̞͕̼̺̤̳̥ͬͨ̓ͯ̐͒̌ͮ́̑̂̊̚e̥̜̜̪̩ͫ̏̓̇ͩ̓͌͆ͪ̂̋͞r̨̬͓̹͈̠͓̻̭̠͚̝̠̞̹̱̪̜ͬ̾̅̈́ͥ̓ͩ͂ͤ̐͒̔ͬ̈̃̑͝͠s̷̮͍͉̖̹̖͔̩̖̟̹̳̺̬̎ͨͦ͑͗̅̔͑̔ͯ̿̏̈́͂̾͆̊̏̚͢͟ ̴̭͚͉͖̫̖̜̣͉͎͓̆ͧ̎ͥ̈͐̍̓̒ͥͪ̾̊̾͆̍͘͟͢͝ͅͅͅớ̶̶̰̣͓͙̬̭͚͈̯̖̟͆̑ͣ̒͛n̷͗̀̋̀̇͋͂̉͌̉̏͑̋̎͢͏̮͇͓̺̘͖̱͍̖̕ ̨̻͇͍̻̭̘͓̘̳̈̃̀̈͆͑ͭ͐̓̅̕͢͡s̷̞̼̯̪͖̳̙͕̞̼̹̟ͮͤ̄̌͒̾̔͐̈́̒͛͆̚͝ḭ̢͍͉̠͖̤ͦͪ̍ͬ͋ͥ̄ͥ̅͆̅͂ͯͬ̃ͥ͋̚̚͞ṯ̵̴͖͉̦̻̜͙̫̟̄ͧ̄͋̎̑͐͘͝e̡͈͈͔͇̼̬͕͓̠̣͈̝̮̗͙̋ͩͭ̎͗ͮ̇.̴̣̭̬̯̥̹̟͎̈̈́͌̾̈ͪ̋̓ͨͬ́͜ ̸̶̭̯͉̥͔̳͓̪͈͚͉̝͓̠͉̳͚̣͛̉̔̿̊ͮ͛ͮ̽͊ͣ̋ͣ͊ͧ͆̚̕͘B͓͙̮͚̜̭͉̩͉̃ͩͦ̏̿̄͂̋ͣ͋ͨ͆̊͆͟͝͡a̵̢͖̩̩̲ͪ̊ͥ̽ͧ͆ͣ̊́͝͝n̛̞̲̬̫̣̥͇͚̟ͯ͑̎̾ͧͧͫ͆́̃̏̚ͅd̸̼̙͖̙̥̫͖̼͓͇̺̘̐̆ͥ̽̇̍̃̋́̈́͛̓ͮ͜͢͟i̛̦̣̫͕͉̦͇͈̠̣̎̃̿͆̋ͯͪͣͩͫ́͡t̸̨̳̻̬̺̰̼̻͒̅͐̓ş̷̯̹̥̻̳̳̂͐ͤͯ͊̃ͯ̅ͦ͛̍ͭ̄̎ͪ̐̒̎̎̀̀͞ ̷̆ͪ̎̑̄ͤ͌̈̃͐͑͒̊̈́̈́ͧ͟͏̶̺̪͓͍̤͍̼͇͉̬̱̗ͅa͛̿͂̍͏̢̮̟̱̝̗̪ŗ̴̸͔̬̞̬̜͋̄̈́̎ͮ̓̈̄͌͆͑̆ͅe̶̷̶̺̠̠̞͛ͪ͆̅̋̋͢ ̶̛̉̌ͯ́ͫ̍ͫ̎̂͆̔͂̒̈́̊̚͝͡͏͓͚̱̺̥̟͖̰̲̣̻̫̣̝ͅh͗̽̌ͮ̉̆̈ͭ̐̊ͧ͑͏́͟͏͕̠͇̲̱̳̦́o̷̵̰̝͔̤̺͛̈̀͋̓̍̑̔̏͆̓̅̂̈̃͑́sͨ̌ͧͣ̓ͨ҉̸̷̨͚̠̪̲͕̬̠̻̜͇͇̞̻̗̝͝t̷̞̲̩̪̘͈͖͙̺̮̜ͥ̉̂̊̔͌ͭͬ͐̇̽ͩ̚͢͠į̶̸̨̟̹̠̘͍̦̤͚͍̜͔̞̤̻̜͈͂̓̔ͫ̐̂̅̆̾͛͌̐̏͑ͥ̐̚͜ͅͅl̍̃̉ͦ͘͏̡͉̙̤̗̖̦͚̯̙̗̫̲͕͎̬ę̛̥̫̜̺͓͖̯͚̗̠͔̪͎̰̣̗͇͔̭̃̑ͧͬ͝;̶͉̗̰̙͙͎̼͎ͮͧ̑̿ͯ͋ͯ͗͐͘̕̕͠ͅ ̨̰̻̝͚̱̠͆̉̎̒̈́̃̂́̎ͨ̒ͭ͑ͪ͢͠r̴̵̢̜̗̳̥̰͓̝̿ͪ̎̊̀͂͋ͩ̔̓̀͞e̷͊̽ͨͥͧ͊ͯ̾ͯͣͨͪ̊ͬ͐̀̅̃̈҉͎̰͓̫͚̠ͅp̨̣̖͓̳̝͓͕͖̂͆ͩ͋̀̂̊̎́͘e͗͌̐̊̒ͩ̒͂͋́͝҉̨̻̼̤̺͍̞̩̙̮̺͉͎͚̱̠̫̥̝a̶̵̢̧̭̤̘̙̞͒̈̉́̐̇̓ͤ̌̿̑̀̒̍͂̓ͥ̓͜ţ̴̶̛͙̳̤̲̗͑ͯ̔̀͗̌ͦ̓ͫ̎ ͇͛ͧ̀̌̐̽a̩̗͚͍͉̓̋̊̄͗v͕͕͈̺̌a̬̜͍͕͔̲̩̋i̯̮̺̞͓͖͔̚l̺͇͔̼͆ͫͦ̂ͧ̒̓ͅaͦ͐͆ͯ̑̚҉͈̗͚͇̦b̥͈̘̳ͧ̑̓͌l͓̜̳̣͈̩̏̃̀̍ͮ̚eͤͥ̄ͧ͒́ͪ ͚͓̫̈́u͓̠ͥ͌̀̃̀͐͘n̼͎̱̹ͫͯ͢i͛̾̿ͤṫ͉͛̄̇͠s̴̮̘̩̘̱ͥ̔ͭ́̏̆.͛̊͌ͥͧ̚ ̵̮͕ͩ͂ͬͧ̃ͬͨW̬̭̟͖̞ͬ̽e̮̩͕̖ͮͤͭ̍ͩ͠ ̣͖̤̗̫̉̿ͨͯ̄͛ͯḥ̹̆͒̑ͫ͜ắ̦̯͙̤́́ͤv̟͔̻͓̂̉̇͆͜e͑͑͢ ̩̻̹̲̲̥BRAVO THIS IS HQ!!!!m̴̘̭̳͐e̯c̩̜̻̼͚̏̈́̋̈ͯͅhş̲͙͚̘̉͒͆ͯ͂ ̵̰͕̖̟̠̰͛̾ͮ̂̌d̐̄This is HQ to any available units. We have mechs down at nav gamma. BravoThis is HQ to any available units. We have mechs down at nav gamma. Bravo cadet reports 4 summoners on site. Bandits are hostile; repeat bandits are hostile. cadet reports 4 summoners on site. Bandits are hostile; repeat bandits are hostile.̩͈͈̹͕̫̹ͮ̈͂̋̽oͦͨ̇̅̈̍w͍͚̥̝̿n̫̭̩̫ͧͬ̏̎͆ ̻̣̤ͯ̃ͣ͘a̺̪̯͈̲̩͐͆ͮͅt͓̀ͪ͢ ̢̦̲͖̐n̯͖͗̒̽̈̚͘ͅa̟͇͊ͭ̄ͬ̍̆̾v͙̘̘̗͎̖̉̃ͨ͌̍͌̍ ̥̘̲̣̼̟̆ͫ̄ͥ͞g̬̠̭͓͎̾̍̈͑̆̀ạ̱͍͕̭̈́̇̓͝mͯͣ̉̾̎ͬ̄҉̳̫͕̞͎̮m̲̅͆͆ͬ͢a̩̝͔̫̖̟̜͝. ̖̦͓̤̠̥̉͐̂̀B̷̗͙͇r̗̰̞͈͐̎͘ͅa̡v̤̳̎̀̾͌̏ͥ̚͜o̦̫͙͜ ̜̪̪c̗͇̪̲ͮ̏ä̸̙̤̺͆̽̋͒̽d̥̍ͮ̃̑̇ͅe͉ͫ͜ṯ̩̖̳͇̤͉ͮ͆ ̨r̰̣̯̦̭͉̔͋̀̆̐͢ͅe͎̹͎͊͟p̺͇̝̓̑̓̍́o̮͓͚͍̭͓̩̽̓̐̄̄ȓ̪̫͍̮ͭt̶͇̻͍͇̅͑ͧͫ̌̋̇s̖̬̜͉̽̍̉̐̔̏̀ ͓̙ͧ͑̀4̥̰̯̯̤̳͐̃ ̟̲̔̽ͩͦͪͥ͑s͍͇̜̹̘̮̉͘u̩̟̣̐̆͗̌͌̒̕m̜̮̜̲̮̦ͧ̈̾͌͛ͭm̓͋͑̽̾̌̐҉̼̝͔͖̣̰̜ȯ̘̫̦̘͘n̞̹͉̼͓͠e̮̘͕̎̓̈͡ŕ̵̯̬̹͈͖̆ͣs̔̓͂ ͔͔̘̯͖o̧̘̹̬̲̟̜͂̔̌͐̄ͯͣn͉̗̜̼͛̈̾̊̋̀͂͜ ̯̫̒́s̷̔̂i͂ͤ̔̚҉̲͖͔tͭ͑̄ͭe̖͎͚̜ͮ̐ͫ̾ͣ.̣̥̯ͧ̂͢ ͖͕͒̐ͬ̌̽͐͘B̲͇͔̪̔̓̀a̠̳̘͐̋̓ͩͅn͚̮͇̲͉ͦ͌ͫ͛̒d̰̘̀i̞̗̫̝̱͗͊t͊̾͊̎̂̚s͈̭̱̯̲̲̣̍͐ͮ̍̚ ̟̣͎͉̜͓̬ͬ̅ͪa̘̠͔̗̫̰̙r͏̘͙̥̗̦̭͕è̺͒̒ ̘̫̮̘̅͛̓ḧ̏ͧͪ̏̏̽o̵͙̣͚͙̻͔s͒̇̒̈ͫ́͗҉̩͓̺͙͈̦t̤̫͔͎̺̅̅ͩ͆͋̚ĩ̻͒̓̅̄ͮl̥̭͕̝̺̩ͬ̀ḛ̵̗͔̮͆ͩ͂ͤ̌̌̇; ͆͛ͯ̚͠r̤̗̝̩̘̓́͑͗̎̎̕ͅe͓͔̲p͊ͮ͢e̺̜͚ͬ̐͒͠a͔ͨͥ̈̓ͤ̿ͬť͉͖̤͇̄͐ ̵̘̠ͤ͗ͪͧbả̻̺̥̹̫̍ͬ͆ͭ͐̚n̯̝͙̯͕̆͡d̬̗̭̖̜̳ͪ͗́͊ͩì̟͆̈́̕t̥̗͆̔̎͢s̩͇̈́ͨ͌ͤͤ̏ ̘̩̹̣̦ͯ̓̃͒́ͤͤͅâ̶͔̟̰̣̼ͧͅṛ̦ͦ͐̔̊̈́́̚ẽ̞̘̇̍ͧ̍͒ ͚̪̟h̜͍̗̠͈̖̃ͤ̈́ͥͯͅo͕̙̮̳̮ͣͅs͊̂̐ͧ͆̽͏͚̬t͕̺̜̳̝̟̩̏͑̀ị̋ͧͩ̅ͅl̵̝̘͙͂̃ͤ͑e̳ͣͣ̀.̨ͬ̽ͤ͂̑ͯ̇̉҉͔̙͇͖͟͟͟͝i̳̦͍̥̗̖̗͈̘̩͕͔̮͎̮̮̎̒ͫͥͤ̒̏̽͛̂ͥ̀͟ͅş̨̭̫̭̣̹̣̺͖ͩ̇̽̓̋̃̈͊͌̿̈͗̊͘͜ ͙̳͕̬̳̬͍̝̗̟̎ͫ͑͆ͪ̕͢H̭͔͚͓͓̺̥͓̳̯̗͉͌͊͌ͦ͐̓̏̊͂̎͡͞Q͒ͣͪ̋͒ͧ͑͋ͥ͂̾ͥͭ̊͊ͥͦ̌̈͜҉͏̛̺̖͇̱̮̥̱̣͍̤̬̤͞ ͑ͮ̍̐̇̌̈̽̀ͪ͑̉̉͆̀̑̽͏̵͈͓̲̩͉̝̬͔͚̦̞͉̼͙̳̯̯͎̀͠ṭ̶̣̖͓͙̬̖̱̪͉̰́ͦ͑̊̊̒̅̿̂ͫ̅̑̏͘͠ͅo̸̘̰̘̘ͨͭ͂ͪ̿̀͘͟͟ ̷̢̩̹̻̰̫̪͓̥͆ͥͤͮ̄͊ͧ͌ͭͦ̍̊͑a̶̷̮̮̥̠̩̖̤̺̮̽̈͛ͧ͛̃ͯͩͮͣ̑̓ͭͯͤͨ̒ͤn̍ͩͭ͐ͦ̒͆̅ͬ͑̏̇͏̷̢̧̯̺̪͚̤̤̮̖̯͞y̸͙̼͔̰̰̪̼͍͍̬̭̻̗̜͕͚͖̪͖̐ͣ̽͒ͪ̍̉̀ͬ̊ͪ͋ͥ͌͘͠͞͝ ̴̨̠̙̯̻͇̖͚̪͔̺̍̆ͣ̒̈́a̵̍͆̓̌̓ͨ̇̈́͏̸̵̻̪̳̹̫͙͙͉̜̙͔̼̲͖v̧̜͙̖͕̟͇̰͇̎̉ͮ͋̀͞͠ͅa̶̱͔̩̠̞̙̘̹̮͉͕̹͂ͮͫ̂͜ͅi͒̽ͯ͛̃̽̌̐ͩ̾ͪ͂ͥ́̚̚҉̛͓̞͙̰̗̺͓̝̠̹͕̹͈̲̲̝͜ͅl̶̸̢͕̳͉͚̳͇̟̝̪͓̥̹͊͌ͤ̑̏ͮ͂ͮͦ̃̽̌̌ͫͫͯ̓͜͡a̛̺̦̬̤͙͂̐̔͌̎ͣͭͬ͋̐͛̍̇̓̊͠b̻̱̺̩̩̘̪̝̜̻̘̖͉̞̜̻̘̌̑̉̂ͤ́͒́ͯ͊̋̈́̈̒͛͘͘͞l̵̨̑̐̑̓̆ͩ͛̋͆ͯ͑̇͐͜͏̳͉͉͈̳̮͎͉͔̬̦̺̠͖̬ē̸͔̦͎͍̞̦͈̪͓͎̗̂ͫͧͭͦͥ̃̆ͩ̆ͧ̏ͮ̀̈́͢͡͡ ̛̪͓͍̞͈̦̰̮̪̼̞̮͕̮̍͗ͫ̓̇̃͆͑ͩ͌ͬ̆̿̇͜͡ͅu̵̧̙̺̙͔̭̺͕̙̾ͤͯͧ͌͌̀̽̑̌͜͜ṉ̢̬͈̝̻͈̪̪̏̾̋̋́̆̆̿̅̓̂̾ͫͭ̉̊͡ͅͅi͋ͥ̊͌͆ͫͧ͂ͭ̐̆͐́ͯͤ́͝҉͙̬̥̹̻ţ̛͉̮̦͇̼͉̒͑̐̍̿ͥ̈́͐ͅs̵̄͆̄ͭ̇̓͗҉̙̠̪̰͍̤̝̗͈̪͔̹͘.̢͎̰̩͔̬̫̟͓ͥ̄ͫͩ̄ͥ͑͆͛́ͪͨ̂͗͐̊̀̄͠ ̷̖̣̖̝̩̺͔̯̫̰̝̟̉̓ͧ̄̒͗̿̾͐͘͝͡ͅW̵̟͖̳̩̉̽̔͟ē̓̓̚҉̣̺̦̘̩̤ ̷̢̙̬͓̗͕̰̼͔̖̫̠̝̟̋ͬ̾̉ͪͫ̀͟͢ͅh̢̡̢͔̝̰͓̙̘̪̲̳̠̹̜͙̙̩͗͊̈́̊̄ͨ͐ͦ̽̇ͧ̅͆͂͝ä̡̲͍̝̥̠̮͕̺̥͖̦̦̹̀̒ͦ̓̓̍ͪ̄̋ͫ̆͒̇́͒ͤ̚v̶̥̟̥͍͙̩̗͖̗͍̫̫͕̳̾̅ͩͭͥͥ̃ͣ̋ͯ̍͛̿̒͡͝͞͡ȩ̵͖̼̥̝̣̬͕̜͈̬̘̟͇͚̄̅ͩ͒͌͠͠ ̡̟̟̯̯̰͎͎̞̥̰̑͊̄ͥͦ̀ͣͧ̊́̓̾̃͟m̸̡̎̋ͪ͌ͧ̔̒̓̈͊͊͟͏̯͔͖̺͍̩̩̲͔͕̟̝͕e̵̴̹̼̹̼̬̝ͪ̆̑ͬ̊ͪ̏͛̅̆̌̽̓ͮ͌́̚͜ͅĉ̡̧̻̠̰͈͑̄͛ͣͫͣḩ̛ͭ̂͌ͦ̍̐̈̌̓͋̈́̎͌͢͡҉͙̯̫̤̜̞̺̘̥s̸̶̷̨̙̺̲̝̩͉̙̥̠̪͙̱̺̝̻͕̱̗̻̀ͬ͆͑͗̌ͧ̈̽͊̊̔ͬͧ̈ ̢̔̒ͦ̂̐ͦ̔͢҉̷̺̜̘̣̟͚͙̪̥̭̞͎͇dͪͤ̊͆̽̎ͤ̒͑̍̏̚͏̸̸͚̪͇̤̺͙̟̠͎̲̝̯̲͉͈͉͟o̢̤͕͙͚̭̩̞̟̤̗̳ͣ̍͐̋̊̂͗̑ͨͪͪ̊̃̀̇̎̉̊̄̀͠͠ẅ̭̖̘̥̹͍͙͖͕̙̮ͯͭͧ̋ͤ̑̾́̊͗̿̾͂̄̇̊́͝n̐̍͐ͪ̊͆͆̒̋͛ͬͮ̚҉̩̺̣͉̮̗̙͡ ̍ͧ̔͛ͥ͌̏͋ͥ̾҉̧̙͈̼͚̜a̷̟̦͙͇͈͙̱͍̟̝̟̗͎̙̙̲̻ͬ͌͌̆͊̄ͦ̍ͬ̌ͩ̓̾͒̚̚͝͝ͅṱ̵̱͙̖̳̩̱̞͚͓̠̦͎̖̉͑̏͋̎̿͒ͣ̎̊ͣ̎̔̄̓͘͢͞ ̛̰̺̭̮͓̪͙͇͚̫̯̥̘͉̐̊̀̕͢n̠̹̤͚̝̫̱͓̱̥̬͔͌͋̎̅̊̂̋̽ͯ͗̌ͮͩ̏̚̚͟͜a̋̿͛͛͟҉̬̰̳̬͔͚͓̙̠̮̭̺v̶̨ͫͣͦͦ͜͡҉̙͕̦̳̬̤̼̩͇͕͍͙ ̶̡̛̱̪͍̤͙͇̹̬̥̪͎͕̰̈̊͗̃̒̇̎̈́ͥ͋́́͂̓̀͒͑̆͆͝g̴̘̖̠͕̲͈̳̟͕͉̫͉̔ͫ̎̿͛̄͜͟͝͞ͅa̴̡͍̫̩̺͔̩̜ͩ͋̌ͯ̓ͯ̀̔ͮ̒̀́̆ͮ́ͯ͊̽̚͘͢m̸̩͚̲̲̜͓̱͍̝̟͊͗ͣͭ̂̃̑͠͞m̯͍̮̮̖̬͔̗̲͉̲̞͙ͯ̒ͬ̍̽ͮͯ̂ͩ̑͊͜͠a̧̙̮̘͔̺̗̰̪͙̖̟̹͙̣̋̋͑̀ͬ͆ͮͣͨ̈̊ͩ͆͜͟.̷̧̔ͫ͋̌̉ͥ̈̌͐ͭ̎҉̨̙̣̼̩̮̪̩ͅ ̡̞͈̥͙̮̈̆͆̎͑̿̉͛ͬ̋̅̿ͥ̎̓͋̓̕B̷̨͎͇̮̲̘͔͉͎͉̺̯̮̠̉̑̍̇͗̔͊̋͗̆̓̑ͫͫ͜͝͠r̶̛͓̪̬͈͓ͫ̿ͮ̽̿ͮ̽̆ͩ͒ͪ͞͠a̅̐͊͌͋̎̀̽ͪ̐҉̱̙͎̻̦̝̝͙͎̙̻̗̘̠̳̹̗̖͝v̀ͮ̿ͭ̐ͦ̏́̚͠͏͍̼̗̤͖̺̮̺̞͖̺͟o̸̴̻̪̘͇̖̻̭̍̌̒̍ͨ̚͜ ̸̵̝̞̱͍͉̜͇̯͎́͆͌̎̒̊̏̽̔̐̈ͨ̀́ͅc̡̛͓̙̺̥͔̭̜̼̘̝̗͖͓̜̗͇̯̄̂̓́ͩͦͯ̍̀͋̚͠ä͗͐ͯͮ̃͆̂ͦ̒̍ͦ͜҉̴͇̪͖̤͇̹̩͇̦͎̦d̶̎ͥ́ͮ̒ͦͥͭ̒̑ͧ̚͘͢͠҉̦̥̹̞͈̹͙͙͚̝ͅë̛̝͕̩̼͈̗̺̼́͆̑͋̒͛ͨ̑̔̕͟͢t̸̛̛͓̪̤̻̭̺̬̳̭̼̩͍͕̺̜̭̺̱̼͒̽͋̇̔̈ͮͮͥ̑̽ ̢̰͚̲̦͕̼̝̬̟̜̪͓̣̯̟̈ͣͮ̅̾̍̇ͪ͊̈͂͆̽͂̚͢͝͠r̓́̓ͬ̑̂͆́͒ͣͦ҉̴͕̞͖e̸̡͍͚̼̪̩̮͔̫̞ͧͦͧͭ̄ͯ͌̐̔̏͗͑͛̿̕͠ͅp̶̧ͤ̈́͛̍ͮ̌̽̏͆ͬ̃͂͏̶͇̦͔̺͙̺̫͍̲͚̳̞͍̥ͅǫ̡͚͓͕̟̖̱̹̺̫͔̳̈́̃ͦ̈́͆̍̅͑̈͋̅͛̚͡r̡̙͍̺͉̱͙̥̟̞̹̬̝̦̮̓̿̿̒ͣ͗̇̚̚͘ͅt̢̹̙̗̟̹̩͓̯̹ͦ̆͐̋́̆͌̾̿͌̉͆̚̕s̢̹̹̥̙̫͖̥̫̑͒ͧ̇̾̕͜͜ ̻̠̝̭̣̭̜̤̖̠͎̻͎̥̹̞̳̗͒͆̆̔͋́4̶̧̫̭̙̝̪̯͍̯͆ͩ̿̔ͥ̿ͭ̔̈̌ͭͣ̏ͧͬͩͬ̃͟ ̸̨̯̙͚̪̯̙͈̀̐ͯͭͨ͗̒s̶̤͎̪̭͕̭̞̲͎̖̞̯͙̤̲̺̞̤̓̅ͧ̒͂ͭ̓ͤͧ̕͢͜͠ͅu̴̵̖̼͉̜̭̼̺͊̎̎̏͌̌ͥͭ̂́̀m̓̓̍ͥ̆͋҉̝͚͚̮͎̻̜̗͕̮͎̘̰̲͎͔͇̕͞m̷̨̢̥̦͎̩̻͙̱̄̏̐ͭ̃͌̆ͤ̐̅͐̌̈́̒̄͊͌ơ͑̀͊͊ͨ͆ͩ̽͌̾ͣͯ̿̈́ͯ̊͑ͪ͒͟͜҉҉͙̪̰͚̘̺͙̩̲̩̮n̢̛̞͕̼̺̤̳̥ͬͨ̓ͯ̐͒̌ͮ́̑̂̊̚e̥̜̜̪̩ͫ̏̓̇ͩ̓͌͆ͪ̂̋͞r̨̬͓̹͈̠͓̻̭̠͚̝̠̞̹̱̪̜ͬ̾̅̈́ͥ̓ͩ͂ͤ̐͒̔ͬ̈̃̑͝͠s̷̮͍͉̖̹̖͔̩̖̟̹̳̺̬̎ͨͦ͑͗̅̔͑̔ͯ̿̏̈́͂̾͆̊̏̚͢͟ ̴̭͚͉͖̫̖̜̣͉͎͓̆ͧ̎ͥ̈͐̍̓̒ͥͪ̾̊̾͆̍͘͟͢͝ͅͅͅớ̶̶̰̣͓͙̬̭͚͈̯̖̟͆̑ͣ̒͛n̷͗̀̋̀̇͋͂̉͌̉̏͑̋̎͢͏̮͇͓̺̘͖̱͍̖̕ ̨̻͇͍̻̭̘͓̘̳̈̃̀̈͆͑ͭ͐̓̅̕͢͡s̷̞̼̯̪͖̳̙͕̞̼̹̟ͮͤ̄̌͒̾̔͐̈́̒͛͆̚͝ḭ̢͍͉̠͖̤ͦͪ̍ͬ͋ͥ̄ͥ̅͆̅͂ͯͬ̃ͥ͋̚̚͞ṯ̵̴͖͉̦̻̜͙̫̟̄ͧ̄͋̎̑͐͘͝e̡͈͈͔͇̼̬͕͓̠̣͈̝̮̗͙̋ͩͭ̎͗ͮ̇.̴̣̭̬̯̥̹̟͎̈̈́͌̾̈ͪ̋̓ͨͬ́͜ ̸̶̭̯͉̥͔̳͓̪͈͚͉̝͓̠͉̳͚̣͛̉̔̿̊ͮ͛ͮ̽͊ͣ̋ͣ͊ͧ͆̚̕͘B͓͙̮͚̜̭͉̩͉̃ͩͦ̏̿̄͂̋ͣ͋ͨ͆̊͆͟͝͡a̵̢͖̩̩̲ͪ̊ͥ̽ͧ͆ͣ̊́͝͝n̛̞̲̬̫̣̥͇͚̟ͯ͑̎̾ͧͧͫ͆́̃̏̚ͅd̸̼̙͖̙̥̫͖̼͓͇̺̘̐̆ͥ̽̇̍̃̋́̈́͛̓ͮ͜͢͟i̛̦̣̫͕͉̦͇͈̠̣̎̃̿͆̋ͯͪͣͩͫ́͡t̸̨̳̻̬̺̰̼̻͒̅͐̓ş̷̯̹̥̻̳̳̂͐ͤͯ͊̃ͯ̅ͦ͛̍ͭ̄̎ͪ̐̒̎̎̀̀͞ ̷̆ͪ̎̑̄ͤ͌̈̃͐͑͒̊̈́̈́ͧ͟͏̶̺̪͓͍̤͍̼͇͉̬̱̗ͅa͛̿͂̍͏̢̮̟̱̝̗̪ŗ̴̸͔̬̞̬̜͋̄̈́̎ͮ̓̈̄͌͆͑̆ͅe̶̷̶̺̠̠̞͛ͪ͆̅̋̋͢ ̶̛̉̌ͯ́ͫ̍ͫ̎̂͆̔͂̒̈́̊̚͝͡͏͓͚̱̺̥̟͖̰̲̣̻̫̣̝ͅh͗̽̌ͮ̉̆̈ͭ̐̊ͧ͑͏́͟͏͕̠͇̲̱̳̦́o̷̵̰̝͔̤̺͛̈̀͋̓̍̑̔̏͆̓̅̂̈̃͑́sͨ̌ͧͣ̓ͨ҉̸̷̨͚̠̪̲͕̬̠̻̜͇͇̞̻̗̝͝t̷̞̲̩̪̘͈͖͙̺̮̜ͥ̉̂̊̔͌ͭͬ͐̇̽ͩ̚͢͠į̶̸̨̟̹̠̘͍̦̤͚͍̜͔̞̤̻̜͈͂̓̔ͫ̐̂̅̆̾͛͌̐̏͑ͥ̐̚͜ͅͅl̍̃̉ͦ͘͏̡͉̙̤̗̖̦͚̯̙̗̫̲͕͎̬ę̛̥̫̜̺͓͖̯͚̗̠͔̪͎̰̣̗͇͔̭̃̑ͧͬ͝;̶͉̗̰̙͙͎̼͎ͮͧ̑̿ͯ͋ͯ͗͐͘̕̕͠ͅ ̨̰̻̝͚̱̠͆̉̎̒̈́̃̂́̎ͨ̒ͭ͑ͪ͢͠r̴̵̢̜̗̳̥̰͓̝̿ͪ̎̊̀͂͋ͩ̔̓̀͞e̷͊̽ͨͥͧ͊ͯ̾ͯͣͨͪ̊ͬ͐̀̅̃̈҉͎̰͓̫͚̠ͅp̨̣̖͓̳̝͓͕͖̂͆ͩ͋̀̂̊̎́͘e͗͌̐̊̒ͩ̒͂͋́͝҉̨̻̼̤̺͍̞̩̙̮̺͉͎͚̱̠̫̥̝a̶̵̢̧̭̤̘̙̞͒̈̉́̐̇̓ͤ̌̿̑̀̒̍͂̓ͥ̓͜ţ̴̶̛͙̳̤̲̗͑ͯ̔̀͗̌ͦ̓ͫ̎

[Bishop Steiner]

Mystere, on 16 April 2014 - 09:43 AM, said:

Does anyone still remember all the hullabaloo about 3PV, in which almost everybody including their pet goat were screaming that the world as we all know it will soon cease to exist?

Sigh!

You mean the Threadnaught that caused IGP/PGI to shut down GenDis in the first place (of course, according to IGP Mods, it was a planned forum change that just happened to coincide with PGI being fed the biggest manure sandwich over their blatant bullcrap change on 3pV. Which was presented just as honestly as the reason for the forum nerf).

Was 3pV a game breaker, in actuality? Nope. Was the principle of the complaint solely about the mechanic though? No, it was the 180 lied to our faces about faces Paul and Russ have pulled may times in delivering a broken product that doesn't remotely deliver on the promised roadmap that convinced founders to shell out 5 million to "kickstart" the game (which let's be honest, is realistically what the Founders pack was, and I am fine with that. I am also fine with things not being 100% as planned..... but we ain't even seeing 20% of the sales pitch making it to implementation.)

[Armored Yokai]

Khobai, on 18 February 2014 - 03:40 PM, said:

70 ton mech with 3 hardpoints? lol.

I suppose you could do CERPPC and CUAC20... but still.

IF you look closely at the page and select one of the mechs the Hardpoints are subject to change