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[Legend_]

Another article.

http://www.gamefront...warrior-online/

Seeing more and more and more foreign language sites putting up stories now as well.

[Roadbeer]

LOL
"This other gaming review site turned us on to this, then we read some forum posts"

I guess writing for gaming info sites is the bottom rung before you get the promotion to Cat Fancy magazine.

Edited by Roadbeer, 16 December 2013 - 11:21 AM.

[Heffay]

Roadbeer, on 16 December 2013 - 11:21 AM, said:

LOL
"This other gaming review site turned us on to this, then we read some forum posts"

I guess writing for gaming info sites is the bottom rung before you get the promotion to Cat Fancy magazine.

They need more journalist majors to establish a baseline of ethics and research into these articles...

And don't kid yourself. Battletech would *love* to have a fraction of the fanbase that the feline lovers community has.

[Motroid]

Game lacks content. No doubt. Prices for the Clan Collection tiers are steep. Also no doubt.
But after reading a few of the raging comments in the feedback thread I can't help myself but thinking:
When do people finally get that those 500,00 Goldmechs are basicly DONATIONS!?!
No question, PGI has not earned such a DONATION in any way but as for any other F2Pgame such extravagant ingame items for ridicolous high rates are not unusual. Of course there is no real value to these Goldmechs, since they are a token of gratitude for your DONATION. What is the deal with all the fuzz about them? This sense of entitlement is what is killing the game for me.
It is only an OPTION. No need to pay for that Timberwolf, golden or not, just wait until it is available for c-bills just like before. It is free to play. It is just an option! Since when are more possibilities insulting? Kiddies these days...

[Alex Warden]

well gamefront is not really a magazine i would lay much weight on... they mostly, just like playmassive or others those kind, quote from articles they found somewhere... on the other hand, most magazines and newspapers do so

[Fuerety]

But Clan Mechs are coming it will fix everything, just fork over 240 dollars for Operation revival.

[Joseph Mallan]

or the price of a Computer to play the game on, you can by ONE 'Mech. That seems reasonable!

[Heffay]

Joseph Mallan, on 16 December 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

or the price of a Computer to play the game on, you can by ONE 'Mech. That seems reasonable!

Pfft... the video card I want costs more than a gold mech. And I'll have to replace it in 2 years as it is.

The gold mech is FOREVER!

[Joseph Mallan]

Heffay, on 16 December 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

Pfft... the video card I want costs more than a gold mech. And I'll have to replace it in 2 years as it is.

The gold mech is FOREVER!

I guess Barnum was right.

[Hawkeye 72]

Heffay, on 16 December 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

The gold mech is FOREVER!

Or at least as long as the servers are running...

[Caleb Lee]

Guys... I don't even play the game anymore. PGI ruined it for me in many ways with poor design choices and broken promises.

However, all of you complaining about the prices on items you don't even have to buy are out of line. It's basically a cash grab so they can continue development, and is NO different than Chris Robert's Star Citizen.

The only exception being they are crowd funding and up front about it while MWO hasn't exactly been a shining pillar of integrity. There are many packages on Star Citizen which blow this out of the water, same as many F2P. Please stop overreacting, there are much more critical issues than $500 mechs... (See the first line in my post).

[Gremlich Johns]

Joseph Mallan, on 16 December 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

I guess Barnum was right.

You know, he won't get the reference.....

Caleb Lee, on 16 December 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

However, all of you complaining about the prices on items you don't even have to buy are out of line. It's basically a cash grab so they can continue development, and is NO different than Chris Robert's Star Citizen.

SC is a different business model. It is not F2P, MW:O is

watch this "F2P the wrong way: Age of Empires"

FWIT, I don't have a problem with the Clan pack prices, I have a problem that they are trotting it out with the game in it's present state AND are boldface soliciting moar money. I could care less about a gold-plated Clan mech - no self-respecting Clan-oriented player should even want one unless it came as a physical model.

Edited by Gremlich Johns, 16 December 2013 - 06:31 PM.

[AC]

This is what I would have paid some money for.

[Sadist Cain]

Caleb Lee, on 16 December 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

and is NO different than Chris Robert's Star Citizen.

Let me stop you right there...

MWO

$500

Gold skin mech

4 game items and currency booster


Star Citizen

$275

Starting Money:10,000 UEC

6 Month Insurance

Deluxe Silver Collector's Box

Spaceship-shaped USB Drive

CD of Game Soundtrack

Glossy Fold-up Star Map

5 Spaceship Blueprints

3 Inch Model of Spaceship

Hardback Making-of Star Citizen

Digital Star Citizen Manual


Are you blind or just stupid when you can't see a difference in the value?

Edited by Sadist Cain, 17 December 2013 - 01:52 AM.

[Zerberoff]

****** Cain, on 17 December 2013 - 01:51 AM, said:

Let me stop you right there...

MWO

$500

Gold skin mech

4 game items and currency booster


Star Citizen

$275

Starting Money:10,000 UEC

6 Month Insurance

Deluxe Silver Collector's Box

Spaceship-shaped USB Drive

CD of Game Soundtrack

Glossy Fold-up Star Map

5 Spaceship Blueprints

3 Inch Model of Spaceship

Hardback Making-of Star Citizen

Digital Star Citizen Manual


Are you blind or just stupid when you can't see a difference in the value?

Let me help you here...

MWO = F2P Game

SC = Webside with a 3D Showroom

... i will laught when SC goes life in...what? 2020? and the shitstorm begins there, because everything they promised will never look like you and so many other imagine it now.

[DeadlyFred]

Motroid, on 16 December 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

Game lacks content. No doubt. Prices for the Clan Collection tiers are steep. Also no doubt.
But after reading a few of the raging comments in the feedback thread I can't help myself but thinking:
When do people finally get that those 500,00 Goldmechs are basicly DONATIONS!?!
No question, PGI has not earned such a DONATION in any way but as for any other F2Pgame such extravagant ingame items for ridicolous high rates are not unusual. Of course there is no real value to these Goldmechs, since they are a token of gratitude for your DONATION. What is the deal with all the fuzz about them? This sense of entitlement is what is killing the game for me.
It is only an OPTION. No need to pay for that Timberwolf, golden or not, just wait until it is available for c-bills just like before. It is free to play. It is just an option! Since when are more possibilities insulting? Kiddies these days...

And that's the point. They haven't earned it, at all. There's no entitlement here, I don't WANT gold-plated battlemechs. I think that's about the most ridiculous thing ever let alone that they cost $500. If they want "donations" they ought to overhaul their marketplace in general and make it more appealing to potential customers. As it stands now, too much stuff is just too damn expensive. You could even take a real step and do what pretty much every other F2P has done and offer affordable "starter" packs with a Champion mech of some sort, maybe some colors/patterns or other cosmetics and a couple MC on the side.

PGI needs to get it head in the game, just throwing up some ridiculously overpriced blingmechs is NOT going to do it for you. If you have to make a profit off people buying a couple $500 mechs you might just want to really reevaluate where the rest of your cash flow disappeared because as I reckon it, that's not how most games like this work. I mean I bought my storm and saber pack, no big deal... but this Clan announcement and the latest State Of stopped me literally in my tracks from going and buying a Firebrand on sale over the weekend, or anything else, ever. Until PGI puts their content where their mouth is.

Edited by DeadlyFred, 17 December 2013 - 03:05 AM.

[Heffay]

Look at all this free advertising they are getting! All you have to do is make a splash in the industry and people fall over themselves to talk about it.

Heck, they didn't even have to do it first. They just had to do it right!

[Legend_]

While it certainly can't be argued that free advertising isn't always a bad thing, it should certainly be remembered that it isn't always a good thing, either.

Sure, this is going to attract a lot of attention to the brand but, in the realm of game development, where critics tend to be harsher and louder than most other realms, is this really the kind of advertising they will want?

[Heffay]

chiXu, on 17 December 2013 - 05:59 AM, said:

While it certainly can't be argued that free advertising isn't always a bad thing, it should certainly be remembered that it isn't always a good thing, either. Sure, this is going to attract a lot of attention to the brand but, in the realm of game development, where critics tend to be harsher and louder than most other realms, is this really the kind of advertising they will want?

People will forget the bad and remember the name. The issues will only be there until the next bit of news drops, which is in T-3 hours.

[AC]

Heffay, on 17 December 2013 - 04:55 AM, said:

Look at all this free advertising they are getting! All you have to do is make a splash in the industry and people fall over themselves to talk about it.

Heck, they didn't even have to do it first. They just had to do it right!

I doubt it. MWO is already being called "the perfect example of what not to do with the F2P model". That is what they are going to be rememebered for. Other F2P games will look at what MWO is doing and do the complete opposite for success.

Edited by AC, 17 December 2013 - 08:12 AM.