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[freemage]

How to do?

[SnagaDance]

We'd need more info on the situation to give an accurate answer, like: What mech did you pilot, what kind of mech killed you, what we're the last weapon types that hit you (you can see this in the screen reporting your destruction though it only seems to summarize types so being hit with 6 ML at the same time will only show you being hit by 'a' medium laser).

Regardless there are some likely suspects.

You forgot to armour your legs/rear armour sufficiently ánd you stored ammo in that location.
You forgot to armour your rear side torso armour sufficiently ánd you run an XL engine.
You forgot to armour your rear center torso armour sufficiently ánd you got hit with a high alpha Light's payload.
You were so caught up in battle that you didn't notice you were taking significant damage from an unseen direction already/as well.

With my own JR7-F's 6 ML it usually takes me only 2 or 3 salvoes at the same rear torso location to burn through and destroy the location/possibly kill the mech, and this is versus properly armoured mechs!! If I'm able to time my shots with a teammates hits from the front then the enemy is likely never to notice me.

[warner2]

Every 'mech is dangerous to every other 'mech in this game, with few exceptions.

Take a Cataphract with an XL engine. If you've got lowered back armour, say 15 on the side torsos, with internals (which is half the total external armour of a location so 30 for a Cataphract) that's 45 armour before the torso is completely destroyed and the XL engine with it, which is death.

Any 'mech with 5 ML like a Jenner or a Locust can two shot that XL Cataphract if it gets behind and has a steady aim.

[Redshift2k5]

Doesn't even have to be from the rear, dependng on leg armor/side torso armor, possibility of ammo crits, etc.

Getting rear-cored by alight mech is one of the pillars of balance that means the game is not simply an arms race to everybody-assault-mech-all-the-time

[Nryrony]

freemage, on 19 February 2014 - 01:08 AM, said:

How to do?

If you where a Jager mech, had close to 0 rear armor and did not turn around then you deserved it.

[freemage]

May be my engine is broken

[Mordin Ashe]

Well, back when I was running with 2xLPL on my Raven many people died from two alphas into rear CT. An anecdotal evidence, true, but still. Don't strip too much rear armor!

[Belorion]

Don't pull all the armor off your back?

Where did they hit you at?
What was the cause of death?
What weapon were they using?

[DONTOR]

well a firestarter can alpha 40 damage pretty easily, 2 of them is sure to kill you.

[Alcom Isst]

I've done this in a 6ML Jenner vs a rather oblivious LRM Catapult. Took one hit to remove the rear armor and smash some internals, took another hit to finish the poor thing.

[lsp]

Hit in back, or you be wrong, or you had interals showing.

[Ragnar Darkmane]

Alcom Isst, on 19 February 2014 - 08:12 AM, said:

I've done this in a 6ML Jenner vs a rather oblivious LRM Catapult. Took one hit to remove the rear armor and smash some internals, took another hit to finish the poor thing.

Just like I feel every time I face a Catapult head on with my 5x LL Boat Stalker. hitting them twice in that giant cockpit hitzone is so damn easy...
What makes the situation even worse is that a majority of Catapult players (at least the ones that end up in close combat against Assaults in the first place) are newbies that play the Cat because of the looks and because people praise it as an easy to use beginner mech (which it isn't). That means they do not even torso twitch and just stare and fire at you while you two shot them...

Edited by Ragnar Darkmane, 19 February 2014 - 09:07 AM.

[Amsro]

8 Medium Laser Light, with great aim.

ggclose

[Helen Kell Er]

BOOM...HEAD SHOT!!!

[Drehl]

I oneshotted a ctf 3d with 2 gauss/1ppc once with my 5ml jenner.

hit him in the right rear ct.. blew off his gauss... xl eninge he died.

so.. pretty easy against certain loadouts/mechs.

[C E Dwyer]

Weak leg armour two salvo's crit to ammo explodes secondary damage to side torso crits xl engine, mech dead.

head short critting cockpit

two guesses at what might cause it to happen

[Mechteric]

Ammo stuffed in lightly armored legs perhaps?

[Belorion]

Helen Kell Er, on 19 February 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

BOOM...HEAD SHOT!!!

[Sephlock]

SnagaDance, on 19 February 2014 - 01:37 AM, said:

We'd need more info on the situation to give an accurate answer, like: What mech did you pilot, what kind of mech killed you, what we're the last weapon types that hit you (you can see this in the screen reporting your destruction though it only seems to summarize types so being hit with 6 ML at the same time will only show you being hit by 'a' medium laser).

Regardless there are some likely suspects.

You forgot to armour your legs/rear armour sufficiently ánd you stored ammo in that location.
You forgot to armour your rear side torso armour sufficiently ánd you run an XL engine.
You forgot to armour your rear center torso armour sufficiently ánd you got hit with a high alpha Light's payload.
You were so caught up in battle that you didn't notice you were taking significant damage from an unseen direction already/as well.

With my own JR7-F's 6 ML it usually takes me only 2 or 3 salvoes at the same rear torso location to burn through and destroy the location/possibly kill the mech, and this is versus properly armoured mechs!! If I'm able to time my shots with a teammates hits from the front then the enemy is likely never to notice me.

There is also the potential for ammo explosions.

[Turist0AT]

Yeah, soo?

Lights can still pack firepower. They are just more frigile. If you are open or having your back turned you get easily 2 shottet by somone who can aim.

Light laser boats deal above 20 damage as low as every second. Shame on you OP that you didnt squash that bug before he got you.