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[NextGame]

On the tournament:

1) Who cares? its only for like $5 of pretend money.

2) It's better than nothing.

[FenixK17]

Tw1stedMonkey, on 02 March 2014 - 11:26 PM, said:

If a player in professional sports uses steroids to break records isn't that looked down upon. Why is that? oh yeah, because it gives an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE compared to other players. Arty/air strikes (and JJs/ pinpoint alphas) are the "legal" steroids in this tournament. Not everyone like to abuse a broken mechanic just like not everyone wants to use steroids (aka. the easy way.)

Difference between arty and roids are that:
1.) Arty is legal and everyone have access to it. There is no rules that say you cannot bring it. It was also made to be part of the game.

2.) Steroids are illegal to be used by athletes as it only gives those with access to it unfair advantages and also due to adverse side effects (such as depression, roid rage, etc).

[TygerLily]

I think the "sample size" idea is a very good one: first 10 games out of X amount of games...X being whatever seems reasonable to produce your average play.

Personally, when I buy a new Mech, it takes around 20 - 25 matches to unlock all my Basic efficiencies and by then, my K/D in that particular Mech rarely changes. So I think a 50 match cap sounds about right.

NextGame, on 03 March 2014 - 02:09 AM, said:

On the tournament:

1) Who cares? its only for like $5 of pretend money.

TRUTH...however, some people treat it as Viagra for their ePeen...There's a lot at stake when you have to feel validated, man!

Edited by TygerLily, 03 March 2014 - 07:31 AM.

[Deathlike]

Having put the most effort in the Trebuchet bracket, I've gained essentially all the XP required to get all the efficiencies one more time over (I sold it when I got the minimum required with it completely mastered).

Shockingly enough, a lot of the numbers held their own ground (W-L and K-D ratio was more or less the same since previously).

You rediscover stuff about certain mechs and variants, and then also remember why you hate them.

[SiR SockMonkeyDonkey]

agree 100% this contest was for those with the most time, ei: those with no job or family. I played a few matches, after 5 matches I was rank 7th kto Saturday, 1 day late due to bad advertising for the event. after my 2 hours for the day was spent I checked back Sunday and even invested 6 hours of the day around my prior plans to come out 11th, and my last match didn't even count and it ended 6 minutes before cut off. 11th place and only a handful of matches. I heard players bragging about going on there 1,000th match on Sunday and couldn't help thinking, wow just think what place they would all be if we all had so many matches....

[CB Pilot]

I played a few hours on Sunday before dinner maybe 30 matches in my 40 ton Cicada 2A. I have never use a consumable so I did not start for this and ended up 75th I think.

Honestly I got bored from the grind to get in 10 decent games, I can not imagine how people can do 1000+ in a weekend : (

This tourney did prove a few things to me and that is the meta as I see it has huge advantages. Lots of pre made's in meta mech's stomped the new and casual payers as well as the non meta mech's into the dirt for fun and epeen.

This dominance was very evident but I would love to see PGI give the players that want that competitive game play a place to do it but also allow a separate game play for new or casual players that do not.

It was just sad to spectate new players in trial mech's that don't even know the ranges of the weapons or still in third person view etc. against a pre made of meta mech's "Farming" them by doing all the damage they can before finally killing them.

Edited by InsectMech, 03 March 2014 - 09:57 AM.

[Clit Beastwood]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 02 March 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:

Dont go for top 10. My wife would leave me if i played the tourney all weekend for 12 hours a day.

Just play your matches, enjoy the weekend

Much more fun this way, and you get an idea from your placement over just playing 10-20 matches vs the guys farming those epic games of where you stand.

Hopefully the game in the future will reward teamplay better and objective based missions and the scoring system is improved so we see actual gameplay happen to win matches, not just to farm kills.

even on conquest, no one takes any bases, it's a slugfest.

Fix the gamemodes and pay please PGI.

lol - I was alternating between pugging in lights and dropping with my wife in her new blackjacks

It was hard, but I got her playing. Step 1: find other ladies and group with them. Step 2: tell wife. Step 3: let jealous wife listen in on comms. Profit!

[Deathlike]

Fierostetz, on 03 March 2014 - 10:07 AM, said:

lol - I was alternating between pugging in lights and dropping with my wife in her new blackjacks

My brain broke down when I read this.

[Clit Beastwood]

Deathlike, on 03 March 2014 - 10:32 AM, said:

My brain broke down when I read this.

I play with a bunch of friends, and their wives/girlfriends started playing... she heard female voices on comms and got slightly jealous so she got on teamspeak and started chatting, then the ladies started to group up... now they're dropping together (and doing well!). It's awesome - she's been pugging a lot because, in her words "running in a group makes you lazy". :so proud:

She's very partial to the BJ1 champ build. Again, in her words "I'm gonna go shoot some d**ks off!"

[Corvus Antaka]

Fierostetz, on 03 March 2014 - 10:07 AM, said:

lol - I was alternating between pugging in lights and dropping with my wife in her new blackjacks

It was hard, but I got her playing. Step 1: find other ladies and group with them. Step 2: tell wife. Step 3: let jealous wife listen in on comms. Profit!

hehe...still workin on that. So far even our sexy russian voiced recruit has not been enough to sway my wife to game mechwarrior with me

[Clit Beastwood]

[edited post because I inadvertently took thread off-track]

Edited by Fierostetz, 03 March 2014 - 11:12 AM.

[KharnZor]

Fierostetz, on 03 March 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

I play with a bunch of friends, and their wives/girlfriends started playing... she heard female voices on comms and got slightly jealous so she got on teamspeak and started chatting, then the ladies started to group up... now they're dropping together (and doing well!). It's awesome - she's been pugging a lot because, in her words "running in a group makes you lazy". :so proud:

She's very partial to the BJ1 champ build. Again, in her words "I'm gonna go shoot some d**ks off!"

awesome lol

[Trauglodyte]

Fierostetz, on 03 March 2014 - 10:07 AM, said:

lol - I was alternating between pugging in lights and dropping with my wife in her new blackjacks

It was hard, but I got her playing. Step 1: find other ladies and group with them. Step 2: tell wife. Step 3: let jealous wife listen in on comms. Profit!

If you're married, shouldn't you just go find other ladies?

[Clit Beastwood]

Trauglodyte, on 03 March 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

If you're married, shouldn't you just go find other ladies?

lol - a group of us guys conspired to get our ladies playing the game

if I could message my past self, I'd tell past me to teach wife how much colors cost. She's spent a lot of her "starter" MC.

[Scandinavian Jawbreaker]

I made some popcorn ready and opened this topic in hope for some good ol tears and stuff and what do I find instead... chatter about Fierostetz wife's BJs! How refreshing!

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

There's still one thing, and only really that one thing, that needs to happen for these things to work:

Tournament-only queue. You only count games in Tournament mode, you cannot be grouped to launch in Tournament mode, and you only face other players in Tournament mode when in Tournament mode.

[KharnZor]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 03 March 2014 - 03:07 PM, said:

There's still one thing, and only really that one thing, that needs to happen for these things to work:

Tournament-only queue. You only count games in Tournament mode, you cannot be grouped to launch in Tournament mode, and you only face other players in Tournament mode when in Tournament mode.

This would be great.

[Bagheera]

Deathlike, on 03 March 2014 - 07:42 AM, said:

Having put the most effort in the Trebuchet bracket, I've gained essentially all the XP required to get all the efficiencies one more time over (I sold it when I got the minimum required with it completely mastered).

Good Gawd, man! You did that willingly? What, were you hoping to be the only person on the Treb leaderboard?

[NRP]

I never understood why these tournaments bother some people so much. Stop trying to marginalize the skills of those who did well. These same names would have shown up on the leader boards regardless if there were no air/arty, only the first 10 games counted, you could only use small laser loadouts, or everyone was playing Barbie Horse Adventures. Get over it.

I didn't opt in, but I played all weekend and experienced some of the best matches (win or lose) that I ever have. Sure there was a lot of arty at times, but I was not killed once by it. Here's a tip: KEEP MOVING!

[Hauser]

NRP, on 03 March 2014 - 04:15 PM, said:

I never understood why these tournaments bother some people so much. Stop trying to marginalize the skills of those who did well. These same names would have shown up on the leader boards regardless if there were no air/arty, only the first 10 games counted, you could only use small laser loadouts, or everyone was playing Barbie Horse Adventures. Get over it.

I didn't opt in, but I played all weekend and experienced some of the best matches (win or lose) that I ever have. Sure there was a lot of arty at times, but I was not killed once by it. Here's a tip: KEEP MOVING!

I've got the dubious honour of winning the medium category for the Spring Cleaning Tournament on the day Koreanse wasn't playing.

Maybe you'll listen to me.

These Tournament aren't much fun. To win you don't just need skill, you need time. And you'll spend that time grinding for potentially-good matches. That is a match that has the potential of giving you enough points to matter for your ten best matches.

Getting such a match is a matter of luck. Your team mates need to be passive, if they're aggressive they'll either win and take your kills and potential damage or they'll die and lose, preventing you from winning the match on your own due to sheer numbers. For the same reasons your enemy also have to be fairly passive. Ect,ect,ect.

Now don't get me wrong. You need skill to capitalize on a potential match but its simply impossible to do so with every match. Maybe if you're really good you can make more matches work for you but I doubt it.

A potential match happens maybe once every 5-6 games. This means that at 8 minute per match you'll spend 40 minutes of time trying to get a good one. You need 10 of those so, 400 minutes. This comes down to about 6.5 hours of playing. Once you've your 10 in you'll be in the top 20-30, depending on how popular your class is. To make it to the top 10 you'll spend the rest of the weekend trying to improve on those 10 already great matches against other players doing just the same.

As you can see, once you have the ability to compete, its no longer a competition on skill, its an endurance race against your free time. Now I can understand that for most people the prospect of spending the whole weekend on a virtual competition just isn't their thing. It also makes first place rather meaningless, if just means that from the top 20-30 people you had the time to continue and perfect matches.

If I didn't have **** all to do last spring I wouldn't have participated in the first place. The people I outlasted, I know them to be better pilots then I am.

Edited by Hauser, 03 March 2014 - 04:50 PM.