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#1 Sephlock

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 01:14 PM

https://twitter.com/...268939591397377

My prediction:

Blackjack
Trebuchet
Quickdraw
Spider

The Raven MIGHT get one but it won't have ECM.

If recent events are any indication, the loadouts will be:

Blackjack: 2E in each arm, 1B in the right torso, 1M in the left torso.
Quickdraw: The same, but with Jump Jets.
Spider: The same, but with only 1e in each arm.
Trebuchet: The same, but slower.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 01:20 PM

Interesting.

So, mechs missing a hero:

*Locust
Spider
Raven
Blackjack
Trebuchet
*Shadowhawk
*Griffin
*Wolverine
Quickdraw
*Thunderbolt

* = Phoenix Mech

I'd guess Quickdraw, Treb, BJ and Raven

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 01:57 PM

I am hoping for a Raven hero with 1 energy hardpoint in the head and 3 ECM slots in each arm.

Call it the "Blackout".

Oh, and NO MORE MECHS WITH 1 MISSILE AND 1 BALLISTIC HARDPOINT FFS.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:14 PM

The Spider already has a hero...


it *wishes* it was a firestarter :P

In all seriousness...give me a WVR that can fit AC20 in arm...I can deal with it if it only has 1 ballistic hardpoint.

Edited by Gyrok, 05 March 2014 - 03:17 PM.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:20 PM

A four energy slot spider would be the dog's bollocks with or without ecm

Or 10 ballistic.... :P

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:37 PM

Spider - 2E LT + 2E RT + JJ - Hardpoints stolen directly from the Venom 35 ton chassis. :P

Trebuchet - 2M LT + 2M RT + 2E RA + 2E LA + JJ - Pretty much a Treb 8B

Quickdraw - 1E RA + 1E LA + ECM + 2E RT + JJ - Not really much you can do with that chassis. Ballistic? ECM.? 5Mr had ECM.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:43 PM

@Bront you forgot battlemaster!

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:50 PM

Oh please let there be a Blackjack hero based on the BJ-2. 4 missile hardpoints of wonderment and 2 arm monted energy weapons. Mmmmmm.....

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:02 PM

View PostGyrok, on 05 March 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

The Spider already has a hero...


it *wishes* it was a firestarter :huh:

In all seriousness...give me a WVR that can fit AC20 in arm...I can deal with it if it only has 1 ballistic hardpoint.
Blasphemy. The wolverine needs 3x long barreled weapons in each arm.

Shame on you if you can't imagine the configuration.

Oh, and it should have two antennae, one on each side of the head...

#10 CycKath

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:10 PM

View PostBreakspear, on 05 March 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

Oh please let there be a Blackjack hero based on the BJ-2. 4 missile hardpoints of wonderment and 2 arm monted energy weapons. Mmmmmm.....


Torn, agree but making it a hero or the hero too similar to it would undermine sales of a future BJ-2 or the hero after the release of a BJ-2. Wonder if they'd do a downgraded and shrunken version of one of Blackjack omni configs like say missile hard-points in arms ala alt config a or split one arm ballistic one arm missile version similar to alt config b to offer something truly different.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:13 PM

Holding out for 2016 when Griffins get paint jobs and a hero :huh: Though I suppose by then I'll moved onto the much superior Nova.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:52 PM

View PostSephlock, on 05 March 2014 - 01:14 PM, said:

https://twitter.com/...268939591397377

My prediction:

Blackjack
Trebuchet
Quickdraw
Spider

The Raven MIGHT get one but it won't have ECM.

If recent events are any indication, the loadouts will be:

Blackjack: 2E in each arm, 1B in the right torso, 1M in the left torso.
Quickdraw: The same, but with Jump Jets.
Spider: The same, but with only 1e in each arm.
Trebuchet: The same, but slower.

I would guess the Raven getting a Hero variant sooner than the Spider, but we'll see.

I predict a hero Blackjack with the BJ-2 configuration (one ER large laser in each arm, four SSRM-2s).

I'm hoping the Quickdraw hero will be an IV-4 based on noted pirate Ivy 'Ladykiller" Upsalom. The loadout will have to be invented, but I'm hoping for something that adds arm hardpoints. I think ballistics are pretty unlikely, though.

The Raven is also hard to guess at, but it would be fun to see something similar in configuration to the RVN-3M, but possibly trading one energy hardpoint for a third missile hardpoint and bigger tube limits (at least one up to 15 tubes).

The Trebuchet is getting low on variant options, though something similar to the TBT-5S could be introduced, carrying three missile launchers and three energy hardpoints, though with a lower but more uniform tube limit per launcher due to stock SRM-6s in the loadout (as opposed to the -7M with two 15-tuber LRM racks and a 1-tube Narc launcher).

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 06:26 PM

View PostGyrok, on 05 March 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

The Spider already has a hero...


it *wishes* it was a firestarter :mellow:

In all seriousness...give me a WVR that can fit AC20 in arm...I can deal with it if it only has 1 ballistic hardpoint.

View PostWhatzituyah, on 05 March 2014 - 03:43 PM, said:

@Bront you forgot battlemaster!

However, The Battlemaster was released in January and the Wolverine isn`t even out for c-bills yet, so they hardly qualify as "older" mechs. :huh:

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 07:07 PM

I predict the Blackjack hero will be 2B, 2E, 4M. I also predict the standard BJ-2 will be 4E, 4M.

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 05:58 AM

View PostAmsro, on 05 March 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

Spider - 2E LT + 2E RT + JJ - Hardpoints stolen directly from the Venom 35 ton chassis. :P

Trebuchet - 2M LT + 2M RT + 2E RA + 2E LA + JJ - Pretty much a Treb 8B

Quickdraw - 1E RA + 1E LA + ECM + 2E RT + JJ - Not really much you can do with that chassis. Ballistic? ECM.? 5Mr had ECM.


I still think they could even make the hero a 35 ton venom for real without significant changes to the model. It'd make a nice balance to the 5V's lack of combat ability (and maybe balance/keep the V alive by special requiring basics in all three standard chassis before unlocking elites/mastery)

With firestarters everywhere who could cry op? who could cry p2w? Might even get away with leaving ecm on it if its only got the 4 hardpoints...

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:19 AM

View PostSephlock, on 05 March 2014 - 01:57 PM, said:

I am hoping for a Raven hero with 1 energy hardpoint in the head and 3 ECM slots in each arm.

Call it the "Blackout".

Oh, and NO MORE MECHS WITH 1 MISSILE AND 1 BALLISTIC HARDPOINT FFS.


This was likely intended to be silly but think about it... (or something like it)

A Raven with 2 ECM. Maybe give it 3 or 4 module slots, 1 energy, 2 ballistic, 1 missile.

Now we have a real electronic warfare themed Raven that can't be shut down by a single counter ECM .. or that can counter and disrupt at the same time. It won't be able to pack the double ER Larges we see on so many Ravens these days ... but it would be an EW beast.

I would hate it, but I kinda love that.

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:20 AM

View PostStrig, on 06 March 2014 - 08:19 AM, said:


This was likely intended to be silly but think about it... (or something like it)

A Raven with 2 ECM. Maybe give it 3 or 4 module slots, 1 energy, 2 ballistic, 1 missile.

Now we have a real electronic warfare themed Raven that can't be shut down by a single counter ECM .. or that can counter and disrupt at the same time. It won't be able to pack the double ER Larges we see on so many Ravens these days ... but it would be an EW beast.

I would hate it, but I kinda love that.
It was half and half, really :P.

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:26 AM

View PostSephlock, on 05 March 2014 - 01:14 PM, said:

https://twitter.com/...268939591397377

My prediction:

Blackjack
Trebuchet
Quickdraw
Spider

The Raven MIGHT get one but it won't have ECM.

If recent events are any indication, the loadouts will be:

Blackjack: 2E in each arm, 1B in the right torso, 1M in the left torso.
Quickdraw: The same, but with Jump Jets.
Spider: The same, but with only 1e in each arm.
Trebuchet: The same, but slower.

No reason a Hero Raven couldn't have ECM. The Cbill one has one. If it had more missile slots maybe there would be an outcry, but otherwise I don't see it.

edit: Ok, multiple ECMs would be...problematic.

Edited by Davers, 06 March 2014 - 08:27 AM.


#19 Karl Streiger

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:29 AM

There will be an outcry even if the Hero Raven - would have exact the same stats as the Raven 3L.

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:37 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 06 March 2014 - 08:29 AM, said:

There will be an outcry even if the Hero Raven - would have exact the same stats as the Raven 3L.

Everything PGI does or does not do causes an outcry.





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