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[151st Light Horse Regiment]

Running a 4x, with maximum front armor and an XL engine.

The last 3 games, i die within 30-40 seconds maybe of the game starting? Someone fires LRM's at me, and about 30 missiles (approx) hit me, totally wipe out all front armor, crit my centre torso.

Anything more than a small laser to the torso after this kills me.

Why are a small amount of missiles killing me straight away before i even get the chance to fight?

[FireSlade]

What are you running for a loadout? And are you twisting to spread the damage? Cataphracts tend to be very durable even with XLs in them and unless the enemy is shooting you straight on, the arms tend to soak up any damage destened for your ST. My only advice is make sure that you stick with your team (probably the assaults seeing everything else is faster), shoot, twist left or right, twist back, shoot again then twist towards the other direction, and the 255xl is your friend. This way you probably will not be the first target, you spread your damage across your entire torso and arms, and you can do 64.9 kph to keep up with the assaults.

Edited by FireSlade, 10 March 2014 - 03:30 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

151st Light Horse Regiment, on 10 March 2014 - 02:24 PM, said:

Running a 4x, with maximum front armor and an XL engine.

The last 3 games, i die within 30-40 seconds maybe of the game starting? Someone fires LRM's at me, and about 30 missiles (approx) hit me, totally wipe out all front armor, crit my centre torso.

Anything more than a small laser to the torso after this kills me.

Why are a small amount of missiles killing me straight away before i even get the chance to fight?

because it moves at 46 kph?
(and LRMS are OP.......)

[Ingvay]

XL Engine in a slow mech...that's your problem right there. ;-)

[Davers]

151st Light Horse Regiment, on 10 March 2014 - 02:24 PM, said:

Running a 4x, with maximum front armor and an XL engine.

The last 3 games, i die within 30-40 seconds maybe of the game starting? Someone fires LRM's at me, and about 30 missiles (approx) hit me, totally wipe out all front armor, crit my centre torso.

Anything more than a small laser to the torso after this kills me.

Why are a small amount of missiles killing me straight away before i even get the chance to fight?

Need more info on your mech's load out.

I am betting it isn't the LRMs killing you though.

[FireSlade]

Ingvay, on 10 March 2014 - 06:54 PM, said:

XL Engine in a slow mech...that's your problem right there. ;-)

That is a myth propagated by those afraid of mechs that kick ass
I run a CTF-4X that I am not very fond of because of the 64 kph speed and how easy that it is to fight with. On average I get 3-4 kills with it and 800+ damage. I feel sorry for the poor ******** that enter my x-hairs when I use it. I have much more fun with my 86kph twin AC10s and twin MLs Ilya that, while not as easy to kill with, is no slouch either.

[IceCase88]

I admire your "persistence" in attempting to get your "message" out. Making a second attempt to get your "message" out, and exposing yourself to a second round of being laughed at shows you are passionate about these feelings. However, don't let the facts get in the way of your impassioned arguments. Moving at 46 kph, you are not even fast enough to scratch your back. You are fodder for any, and all, LRM boats in the game. You could not carry enough AMS or AMS ammo to stop the onslaught of LRMs coming your way with such a slow mech. Heck, you are fodder for all weapons in the game. An 8 flamer Firestarter could probably get a kill. LCT-1Vs and SDR-5Ks are smelling the kill. You can run a 245XL and quad AC5s andd be fast enough to avoid LRMs with good use of cover. It is a slow mech but 46 kph is beyond slow.

Your mech is probably saying this...

[Xmith]

Easy fix. I'm surprised no one else has mentioned this.

The only reason you are getting lit up by LRM is because you are not using cover.

[Amsro]

IceCase88, on 10 March 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

It is a slow mech but 46 kph is beyond slow.

Who would ever pilot a 4X that slow? 64.9 is already slow enough.

Dakkaphract 4X. This gets serious results.

[Sandpit]

guys don't bother
http://mwomercs.com/...ssiles-are-now/

[Kubernetes]

Xmith, on 10 March 2014 - 07:43 PM, said:

Easy fix. I'm surprised no one else has mentioned this.

The only reason you are getting lit up by LRM is because you are not using cover.

This.

You do need some more speed to get out of bad situations though. 46kph is silly slow, especially in the Age of the Trial Stalker 3F. Those things are everywhere, and if you're caught out in the open you're just dead.

Also don't discount the survivability of a Std engined brawler, especially with the 4X's CT lasers. I sometimes run with a Std 255, 2UAC5s + AC5 + 2ML. One problem with Phracts is that everyone goes straight for the side torsos (especially the RT), and with an XL that puts you just a few PPC alphas away from death. The loadout above is plenty powerful for a brawler that can zombie better than a a Centurion.

Edited by Kubernetes, 11 March 2014 - 02:56 AM.

[Scurry]

Eh, don't bother, he trolls on a regular basis. For some reason he seems addicted.

Case in point: http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__2688614

[Sephlock]

151st Light Horse Regiment, on 10 March 2014 - 02:24 PM, said:

Running a 4x, with maximum front armor and an XL engine.

The last 3 games, i die within 30-40 seconds maybe of the game starting? Someone fires LRM's at me, and about 30 missiles (approx) hit me, totally wipe out all front armor, crit my centre torso.

Anything more than a small laser to the torso after this kills me.

Why are a small amount of missiles killing me straight away before i even get the chance to fight?

I've stopped tracking these claims. Someone else will have to take up the mantle.

My new explanation is the occasional bad batch of armor.

[Belorion]

Sandpit, on 11 March 2014 - 12:07 AM, said:

guys don't bother
http://mwomercs.com/...ssiles-are-now/

Last time I played (which has been since the last patch) missiles were kind of under powered... was there a stealth patch I don't know about buffing missiles?

Edited by Belorion, 11 March 2014 - 05:02 AM.

[Sephlock]

Belorion, on 11 March 2014 - 05:01 AM, said:

Last time I played (which has been since the last patch) missiles were kind of under powered... was there a stealth patch I don't know about buffing missiles?

Missiles have always been OP, but only against certain people.

Apparently a fully armored Atlas can go down to a single LRM 20 volley to the front.

[B0oN]

OP is one of the reason we can´t have nice things ...

Bring out the torches and pitchforks !

[zztophat]

Scurry, on 11 March 2014 - 04:53 AM, said:

Eh, don't bother, he trolls on a regular basis. For some reason he seems addicted.

Case in point: http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__2688614

Fake troll is fake.


Even if he was getting flames on purpose (he's not) it's still a fail troll because rather than starting an argument or angering people he is just ends up being called bad for X number of pages. It's not even in the same class as trolling, it's like asking for people to insult you and when they do saying; "LOL I TROLL U".

[Bishop Steiner]

zztophat, on 11 March 2014 - 05:35 AM, said:

Fake troll is fake.


Even if he was getting flames on purpose (he's not) it's still a fail troll because rather than starting an argument or angering people he is just ends up being called bad for X number of pages. It's not even in the same class as trolling, it's like asking for people to insult you and when they do saying; "LOL I TROLL U".

ah but I was having fun bringing burns from his other troll posts into this one to keep the inflammation alive.....

[zztophat]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 March 2014 - 05:37 AM, said:

ah but I was having fun bringing burns from his other troll posts into this one to keep the inflammation alive.....

You can troll me if you want, I promise I will get as buttmad as I can about it.

EDIT: Ouch, one his fail threads didn't even make it all the way to Kaetetôã, just jettisoned, that's like failing at failing.

Edited by zztophat, 11 March 2014 - 05:46 AM.

[Simbacca]

My loadout for the "Hedgehog" - which I have had good success with...

2 Medium Lasers
2 AC2s with 6 tons ammo
2 AC5s with 5 tons ammo
1 AMS with 1 ton ammo
XL255
Endo-Steel Structure