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The Cataphract Who Forgot His Xl


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#1 RickySpanish

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 09:30 AM

Hi guyz,

This one time, my Ilya Muromets got confused and mounted a standard 280 instead of its XL. In defence of the 'phract, it did take the initiative and equip itself with an AC20 to try and make up for what I then believed to be a catastrophic mistake. I was about to sell the old fart for some c-bills to punish it when I started racking up the kills. Apparently people see the AC20, but don't actually *see* the AC20 and get all surprised when they knock a torso off and the 'phract keeps on hauling ass toward them, smoldering torso and all. The 'mistake' also opened up a world of opportunity for side tanking damage that would have otherwise had me spectating the rest of my team in short order.

I decided I'd sit down and take a look at what other builds might be useful with the express restriction of equipping a standard engine, and tanking damage with a dummy / shield torso. Each build was constructed around an AC20 as its raison d'etre, along with another suitably hard hitting and fast firing weapon to back it up. My thought process was to face my target as briefly as possible to let rip with a wallop of pain, and then twist back round again.

Here are a couple, starting with my IM build. I believe my reasoning to be sound, but the weapon loadouts beyond the AC20/PPC to be somewhat suspect. I'd fancy some input from you fine standard engine fairing folk.

ILYA - I'm Reasonably Sure About This One - MUROMETS

CTF - Should That Be SRM Or SSRM?! - 2X

CTF - A Few Too Many Lasers - 1X

#2 Amsro

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 09:54 AM

And you end up with this once you loose the AC/20 torso. :P

I like STD in Cataphracts, but not in Muromets or the 4X. The 2X is my favorite STD CTF, or maybe my 3D.

I dig the out of the box ideas. Nice work.

Edited by Amsro, 14 March 2014 - 09:55 AM.


#3 xXBagheeraXx

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 10:08 AM

People just now catching on to std catas? LOL

Where have you wheenies been?

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9a5ced5a503573c

#4 N a p e s

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 10:34 AM

View PostxXBagheeraXx, on 14 March 2014 - 10:08 AM, said:

People just now catching on to std catas? LOL

Where have you wheenies been?

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9a5ced5a503573c


Just bought the 1X and can't wait to have the funds for DHS so I can kit this baby out like a big ol' huncback.

#5 RickySpanish

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 10:35 AM

View PostAmsro, on 14 March 2014 - 09:54 AM, said:

And you end up with this once you loose the AC/20 torso. :(

I like STD in Cataphracts, but not in Muromets or the 4X. The 2X is my favorite STD CTF, or maybe my 3D.

I dig the out of the box ideas. Nice work.


The 2X does look quite promising with its better backup weapons. As you point out, the IM is a bit screwed once the right torso pops. That said, the IM is not the only Mech to suffer the woes of right torso loss. I see it as equally a liability, and an opportunity to make the other half of your Mech a punching bag.

Edited by RickySpanish, 14 March 2014 - 10:36 AM.


#6 Malcolm Vordermark

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 10:43 AM

Been running this a lot lately. Still tweaking it but I've been getting good results.

#7 Triordinant

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 10:53 AM

This simple loadout used to give me up to 7 kills in a match. The key is it's fast enough to bring the AC20 to bear and cool enough to constantly use its convergent MLs in all but the hottest maps:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8e5d045d4ea3121

#8 Amsro

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 11:26 AM

View PostTriordinant, on 14 March 2014 - 10:53 AM, said:

This simple loadout used to give me up to 7 kills in a match. The key is it's fast enough to bring the AC20 to bear and cool enough to constantly use its convergent MLs in all but the hottest maps:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8e5d045d4ea3121


I prefer this on a 1X mostly because that engine size gives you great speed. As well I'm a little crazy.

Edited by Amsro, 14 March 2014 - 11:26 AM.


#9 Nathaniel Kell

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 12:07 PM

View PostTriordinant, on 14 March 2014 - 10:53 AM, said:

This simple loadout used to give me up to 7 kills in a match. The key is it's fast enough to bring the AC20 to bear and cool enough to constantly use its convergent MLs in all but the hottest maps:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8e5d045d4ea3121


along those same lines...

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a01db71780b6b2c

my best CTF.

#10 Kubernetes

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 03:42 PM

I've been running my 3D with a Std 255, AC20, LPL, and PPC, all in the torso. It's slow, but JJs really make it viable. It's beastly when you start popping those 40pt alphas.

The Ilya can work well as a brawler too. UAC or AC5 in the left arm, AC20 in RT, two MLs for backup. Even if they take off your RT you'll still have decent firepower.

Edited by Kubernetes, 14 March 2014 - 03:45 PM.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:28 PM

View PostAmsro, on 14 March 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:


I prefer this on a 1X mostly because that engine size gives you great speed. As well I'm a little crazy.


lolwut?

#12 Curccu

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 12:02 AM

View PostAmsro, on 14 March 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

I prefer this on a 1X mostly because that engine size gives you great speed. As well I'm a little crazy.

I don't think "little" crazy cover that one :D





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