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[Duke Hector]

now i don't normally make posts like this but i think its time to warrant it. i have been a long time fan of Battletech since 1995 when i first played mechwarrior 2, and i have dabbled in the tabletop but not all that much as well.

so when a new mechwarrior game came out, i wanted to do my part to help it get off the ground. so i became a founder, and i couldn't wait to create my merc corp (which i have deliberately have NOT done because i am very UNSTATISIFED with how merc companies plan to be put into the game) and because of stuff we still have not gotten from the devs that we were promised in beta

i had assumed that we should have gotten community warfare, decals, merc companies, and other things we were promised. But instead what we have gotten is more and more mechs and sale.... after sale with zero

The first bit where i felt stabbed in the back as a founder was: the saber and overlord packages which i refused to buy because i was a founder, and i thought i did my part, when there was an article about how much money you guys have made from the founders ALONE

(see here) http://www.rockpaper...e-its-even-out/

i did not know that you guys were so strapped for cash out of that amount that you have to make ANOTHER sale for saber and overload.

the next part was 3rd person, this was a completely UNNESSARY add-on that in my opinion you guys wasted over 3 months over, that you KNEW no one wanted. and then you throw it in the game and you blame Garth for all of it. Then several months later you up and fire Garth one of the most beloved and well liked CMs, because "he was not performing to standard" which is a a total crock you needed a Scapegoat and Fall Guy and garth was it

THEN you do the clan invasion pack which takes me to a WHOLE new level of rage this pack is the point where this game has not become free to play anymore this is where its pay to win. I can NOT express how much anger i have (and still have) about this whole pack about how you guys are exploiting the fan base to get more money (which again i did not know how strapped for cash you guys are). all the while still NO sign of any of the features that were promised to us.

but the reason that you guys have not done ANY of the features is just plain too funny.

the fact that you did not get a long enough license from Microsoft from the start is just plain funny, and that you extended the IP AFTER the fact that you guys sat on your hands for well over 8 months leading the fans on with mech carrot after mech carrot for 8 months to make money without telling anyone about what is going on, and without doing the features of the game.


i am not saying that this game will die, there are WAY too many suckers and fools that seem to love condoning this game for the lack of features and content for shiny mechs and cockpit junk, that will keep this game alive.


but what i am saying is that to the devs of PGI:

you should be ashamed of yourselves after this level of dishonesty, and misdirection and that to me as a fan and customer is unacceptable.

i understand this is a business and you need to make money to stay afloat. but you could be honest and accountable for how you go about doing it.

if you don't plan to add the features we the fans want, just say so and be done with it instead of leading us on about it.


MAN UP and get your act together


/endrant

[Fut]

Dan the Ice Man, on 14 March 2014 - 10:23 AM, said:

THEN you do the clan invasion pack which takes me to a WHOLE new level of rage this pack is the point where this game has not become free to play anymore this is where its pay to win. I can NOT express how much anger i have (and still have) about this whole pack about how you guys are exploiting the fan base to get more money (which again i did not know how strapped for cash you guys are). all the while still NO sign of any of the features that were promised to us.

Wait... What?
How is it Pay to Win because of the Clan packs?

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Who cares why he thinks so. Another guy who obviously is willing to spend money, is dissatisfied with the game. He only has 106 posts, which means he doesn't rant often.

He's one of PGI's core problems.

[Joseph Mallan]

I have 18K posts and I don't rant much at all... babble yes, but rant???

[Ground Pounder]

@ Dan,

You are not alone in your frustrations about the misdirections and misleading ways of this whole release. Lots of promises have been made, alot of talk that sounds like "Yes, we the Devs hear you and we are working on it" but ultimately there is no action and instead we get useless features (ghost heat warning indicator? really?) and failed modifications *coughs* UI 2.0 *coughs*.

They really have taken a great title with awesome history and following and bungled it to this point. I am still hopeful that they can right the ship, but that hope is slipping fast. I fear that by the end of the year, we will see the end of MWO heralded as near.

a shame as so many waited for a decade for this to come out.

[Trauglodyte]

Joseph Mallan, on 14 March 2014 - 10:34 AM, said:

I have 18K posts and I don't rant much at all... babble yes, but rant???

PGI should be extremely happy with the likes of you, Joe, while also being extremely fearful of people like the OP. Whether he is right or wrong, he isn't a "primary" on the board. We don't have access to the info like number of drops to know if he is new. If he is and he is already pissed, then he is more apt to quit the game and not continue on like us salted few.

[DaZur]

First I was like then I was like then I was like Then I was like

[Joseph Mallan]

Trauglodyte, on 14 March 2014 - 10:42 AM, said:

PGI should be extremely happy with the likes of you, Joe, while also being extremely fearful of people like the OP. Whether he is right or wrong, he isn't a "primary" on the board. We don't have access to the info like number of drops to know if he is new. If he is and he is already pissed, then he is more apt to quit the game and not continue on like us salted few.

Dan is an Elite Founder and a member of this forum since 2012... Why should his opinion be any less/more valid than someone who joined yesterday? Or who posts 100x as often?

[Trauglodyte]

Joseph Mallan, on 14 March 2014 - 10:57 AM, said:

Dan is an Elite Founder and a member of this forum since 2012... Why should his opinion be any less/more valid than someone who joined yesterday? Or who posts 100x as often?

Now I just feel silly cause I didn't look at his forum info. Regardless, we're vocal about evrything and anything. 102 posts indicates that he's the silent majority. Those are the scary types that you're never sure where they stand let alone how easy that are to come and go. From a business stand point, those are the types that you worry about the most because they cause such heavy swings. The heavy user (us) and the vocal types (us) always tend to stay. The others, though...

[Mechteric]

The "founder" sales don't bother me much at all. They have every right to try to make as much money off of content as possible (as long as we can achieve that content reasonably for free also).


The only real issues with the game surround gameplay (ghost heat, among others), an awkward UI (hopefully they are working on making it more usable), and lack of community warfare and other such social features that need to be present in this game to keep it from getting stale.

[verybad]

I think the game is being mishandled by the developers, but I can't see a P2W in it, that part is pretty clean. You can't buy heros (typically not that great) and you can't buy Champions *meh* most stuff you can buy with CBs after a short time however (packs you get one mech a month with CB, Very few if any mechs are game-breakers and they've nerfed stuff that was (jumps in assaults for example) when they've been a bit too good.

The problem with the game is that the META has been ignored for so long that the game is losing players.

There's no context to a win other than upping your stats. You don't capture planets, you don't help the "greater cause" you don't form enemies from different houses/mech companies. It's all one level of conflict, and anything else has been created by players rather than having a built in context by the developers.

So yeah, I'm highly unsatisfied with the game, but the actual game-play isn't the problem IMO. If you've read the clan tech descriptions, you can see they're putting serious thought into the balancing between that and IS., Just the fact that without a deeper context, it' gets boring is a much larger problem. So to the OP, you should get your rant right and re post.

Edited by verybad, 14 March 2014 - 11:08 AM.

[Trauglodyte]

CapperDeluxe, on 14 March 2014 - 11:04 AM, said:

The "founder" sales don't bother me much at all. They have every right to try to make as much money off of content as possible (as long as we can achieve that content reasonably for free also).


The only real issues with the game surround gameplay (ghost heat, among others), an awkward UI (hopefully they are working on making it more usable), and lack of community warfare and other such social features that need to be present in this game to keep it from getting stale.

Wait a second. Are you saying that you DON'T like playing on the same maps with only 3 battle objectives over and over again with no real rewards? You have got to be kidding!

[ogy]

Boy you guys like to moan . . . what do you expect ? No really PGI are a commercial company surviving in a consumerist society. Now they will get around to new stuff, but while there is cash to be made out of making and selling mechs they will do it, they would be stupid not to! You really want to get things change vote me in as president of the universe and I will make them do it!

[Draconis Nagasawa]

ogy, on 14 March 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

Boy you guys like to moan . . . what do you expect ? No really PGI are a commercial company surviving in a consumerist society. Now they will get around to new stuff, but while there is cash to be made out of making and selling mechs they will do it, they would be stupid not to! You really want to get things change vote me in as president of the universe and I will make them do it!

Your my new hero!
In short companies wouldnt be in business very long if they didnt have some sort of income.

[verybad]

ogy, on 14 March 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

vote me in as president of the universe and I will make them do it!

Don't vote for Ogy, we don't need a President. Vote for me as God Emperor of All. Then I'll make everything better, and if I don't, and anyone complains, I'll throw them into a black hole!

[Bobzilla]

I think as far as P2W goes, i'm guessing he's refering to the 'unique bonus module' as well as having access to 24ish mechs which are supposedly balanced.

[verybad]

Bobzilla, on 14 March 2014 - 11:24 AM, said:

I think as far as P2W goes, i'm guessing he's refering to the 'unique bonus module' as well as having access to 24ish mechs which are supposedly balanced.

Yeah, that's just whining however. None of the money only things are especially good, and none are outright better than stuff you can get with just CBs. I havn't bought anything with real cash for quite a while, and the only thing I feel keeping me down is my extreme lack of skillz, and i can't buy that.

[PieRat]

Dan the Ice Man, on 14 March 2014 - 10:23 AM, said:

Not reposting in quote your rant as it is too long

Can I have your stuff? Oh wait....

Edited by PieRat, 14 March 2014 - 11:35 AM.

[Duke Hector]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 14 March 2014 - 10:32 AM, said:

Who cares why he thinks so. Another guy who obviously is willing to spend money, is dissatisfied with the game. He only has 106 posts, which means he doesn't rant often.

He's one of PGI's core problems.

am i now? i didn't know i was supposed to fill out a posting quota every month. and who said that i am not willing to spend money? i have bought things from this game for some time since beta.

and just because i only have 106 posts doesn't mean squat, it meant that when i first started i was satisfied with the game, and didn't have anything negative to say about it at the time.

In fact i tried to get my friends and people i know to get INTO the game.

i am not very happy for the direction that this game is headed with such a lack of features into its belt compared to other games, and also considering that this game hasn't changed hardly at all since beta other then new maps and mechs because since beta its pretty much exactly the same.

so don't assume because of my rant that i am upset and not willing to put something into this game (because i have), and i did not say that so don't put words in my mouth.

Edited by Dan the Ice Man, 14 March 2014 - 02:04 PM.