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[3xnihilo]

Bulletsponge0, on 24 February 2015 - 03:08 PM, said:

so, you get teams with everyone displaying their "Knight Errant" titles and 9 of them deciding to chase the squirrel in their dire wolves and king crabs?

"Knight Errant" eh? I have one of those

[Jon Gotham]

Alienized, on 24 February 2015 - 12:06 PM, said:

but... a summoner is not a quickdraw....

But the summoner is also like a square fridgebox, just that tiny bit more smexy:P And we all like our walking boxes! Well except the Ferret, but then that looks like Bender so it's cool too.

[Kjudoon]

I want the old conquest points back on alpine. You know, the ones that forced you to PLAY conquest instead of defacto skirmish because they were too far apart to run down without a light. That was great. Kill 9 and still lose vause your lights...

FAILED TO DO THEIR ROLE AND CAP!!!!

It was marvelous.

Now, its skirmcrap.

loopala, on 24 February 2015 - 12:22 PM, said:

On the map bit, BTW I pug just pug.

I probably as bad as the rest. While I have had a few games were someone took charge and herded the cats to a much better defensive position or got us to make an assault from some were other then standard NASCAR type circle. I just have not felt inclined to take charge and break the mold and herd the cats. Also I am a slow typists who plays HOTaS so when I type I stop. I guess this would be one of the reasons I might end up joining a group. Just to work with players that are on a similar page rather then a bunch of pugs not even on the same book.

I guess I should try to herd the cats to other things then "goto the Stargate" "goto/don't goto the pug zapper" "take h10" actually conquest really helped alpine due to brawling happen on the lower plane rather then just "defend/assault the hill" alpine has the whole wonderful 11 12 and 13 line to fight in. Tera therma has some wonderful ambush locations, if you can get people set them up.

Oh well there is so much more to these maps that in pug land just never get used

[loopala]

Kjudoon, on 24 February 2015 - 06:14 PM, said:

I want the old conquest points back on alpine. You know, the ones that forced you to PLAY conquest instead of defacto skirmish because they were too far apart to run down without a light. That was great. Kill 9 and still lose vause your lights...

FAILED TO DO THEIR ROLE AND CAP!!!!

It was marvelous.

Now, its skirmcrap.

yep that would be fine also... anything but sefend/assault the hill

[Spr1ggan]

Kjudoon, on 24 February 2015 - 06:14 PM, said:

I want the old conquest points back on alpine. You know, the ones that forced you to PLAY conquest instead of defacto skirmish because they were too far apart to run down without a light. That was great. Kill 9 and still lose vause your lights...

FAILED TO DO THEIR ROLE AND CAP!!!!

It was marvelous.

Now, its skirmcrap.

I still think the best way to make the points really matter is to add respawns. That way you can kill as many of the enemy as you want but if you don't cap points you will lose. Currently it's just faster and more efficient to just waste the enemy team.

[Kjudoon]

Knee jerk reaction to respawns in conquest was 'errr no'.

Now, It's interesting as long as you get zero Cbill/XP for combat related XP.

Otherwise spawncamping would be all we'd see.

[Docta Dakka]

not enough people dropping in cw.

[Bulletsponge0]

hit reg...

is the worst I've ever seen it tonight

nothing, and I mean NOTHING I fire registers on a target.

had a match...a commando with yellow internal CT...took 9 ERPPC shots and ...well nothing...the CT never changed color...nowhere in the paperdoll changed color

fired SRMs...watched the entire salvo pass through the chest of a battlemaster and impact the canyon wall behind him

MPLs... a raven with yellow internal ST took 6 MPLs and ...nothing......

[3xnihilo]

I am officially, "that guy" I just did an incredible 67 damage in a trial Warhawk. . .my apologies to everyone.

[Alaskan Nobody]

3xnihilo, on 25 February 2015 - 06:47 PM, said:

I am officially, "that guy" I just did an incredible 67 damage in a trial Warhawk. . .my apologies to everyone.

I frequently am "that guy" - especially in Top Tier (or previously top tier ) mechs

Had a guy swear there was no way I could have done worse than him one match
I do not remember what mech he was in - but he scored 140 damage and 1 kill

My score?
20 (!) damage 3 assists.

Dragon Slayer - by far my worst Victor

I tend to start those matches with an apology to my team ahead of time.

[FatYak]

Every single person who whinged about not having VOIP and still doesnt use it

There has be negligible improvement in the pug cue. With some rare exception they are still the same unco-ordinated mess they always have been

Its pathetic, we now have the tools, try using them

[Kjudoon]

Verapamil, on 25 February 2015 - 08:21 PM, said:

Every single person who whinged about not having VOIP and still doesnt use it

There has be negligible improvement in the pug cue. With some rare exception they are still the same unco-ordinated mess they always have been

Its pathetic, we now have the tools, try using them

Of course, in the solo queue people use it mostly to blast inappropriate noise, either tell people to shut up for giving them advice or curse. Group queue actually gets used for tactical stuff, I've coordinated a few victories with it.

The one constant I see is the fewer unit tags, the less it will be used, and the more likely (with a few notable unit exceptions) when it is used, it's not useful or is just offensive.

Edited by Kjudoon, 25 February 2015 - 08:56 PM.

[loopala]

3xnihilo, on 25 February 2015 - 06:47 PM, said:

I am officially, "that guy" I just did an incredible 67 damage in a trial Warhawk. . .my apologies to everyone.

Shar Wolf, on 25 February 2015 - 07:10 PM, said:

I frequently am "that guy" - especially in Top Tier (or previously top tier ) mechs

Had a guy swear there was no way I could have done worse than him one match
I do not remember what mech he was in - but he scored 140 damage and 1 kill

My score?
20 (!) damage 3 assists.

Dragon Slayer - by far my worst Victor

I tend to start those matches with an apology to my team ahead of time.

we all have that match were we just don't do well, ok i have a lot of them. i mean i have mechs that should just rule but i play odd ball builds. now when they shine, they shine. i have 3 timber wolves i have yet to play but i have all locusts elited. i have been the last mech from my team with an lrm locust with no ammo running around with the mighty tag while the team types at me to just stop and die.

so yes i am that guy. head shot in the first 2 minutes in a dire wolf, atlas with an xl, shaving armor off a leg instead of a shield arm yep that is me.

but it can be so much fun.....

Edited by loopala, 25 February 2015 - 09:01 PM.

[FatYak]

Kjudoon, on 25 February 2015 - 08:55 PM, said:

Of course, in the solo queue people use it mostly to blast inappropriate noise, either tell people to shut up for giving them advice or curse. Group queue actually gets used for tactical stuff, I've coordinated a few victories with it.

The one constant I see is the fewer unit tags, the less it will be used, and the more likely (with a few notable unit exceptions) when it is used, it's not useful or is just offensive.

It was the solo cue who incessantly whinged about not having the ability to communicate, and they still dont use it.

What ive seen is 2 or 3 people trying to communicate and herd the cats, and then the game ends in a rage becuase the cats are still unable to be herded and the guys who do try and herd them end up losing it

[FatYak]

My other whine is buyers remorse for the Reinforcement pack

So far, a waste of money

Last pack i will buy

[Kjudoon]

I'm enjoying my Panthers. Haven't played the Enforcer enough, but So far, not thrilled with that mech.

Seems like too few hardpoints for both mechs, or too small of engines... just something needed more than quirks... or at least better quirks for the ENF, the Panther... slight tuning is all.

[FatYak]

Kjudoon, on 25 February 2015 - 09:37 PM, said:

I'm enjoying my Panthers. Haven't played the Enforcer enough, but So far, not thrilled with that mech.

Seems like too few hardpoints for both mechs, or too small of engines... just something needed more than quirks... or at least better quirks for the ENF, the Panther... slight tuning is all.

Truth be told ive had some fun with the panther. Enforcer so far is a bucket of rust

EDIT...says the guy who just pulled a 5 kill match in one =/

Edited by Verapamil, 25 February 2015 - 09:57 PM.

[Kjudoon]

Wow... first a teamkiller then discovering someone has replaced all the pugs with complete cretins who don't realize friendly fire damages teammates!!!

Come ON people! Figure this out and STOP SHOOTING YOUR TEAMMATES IN THE BACK CAUSING THEM TO GET KILLED!!

Edited by Kjudoon, 25 February 2015 - 11:09 PM.

[Kjudoon]

Okay you solo queue whiners.

You asked for VOIP.
You QQed for VOIP.
You cried for VOIP.
You RIGHTEOUSLY DEMANDED VOIP.

So you got VOIP.

And now.....

You don't USE VOIP!!!
You don't LISTEN to VOIP!!!

I'm not even sure you understand how team coordination works if given to you!

I call out "There's 5 mechs coming in behind you, F7!"

No one turns away from the squirrel in the rocks suckering in your LRMs.

I say, "Watch the left flank for a counter attack."

You run away and are gunned down one at a time.

I advise "If you go to the PUG Zapper, get inside and don't stand at the door!"

You say 4 squares away and refuse to move.

No, the problem wasn't that other teams coordinated. It's that you refuse to coordinate or work with others and believe that entitles you to goodies for... what I have no idea. The special little snowflake award. I dunno.

If you're not going to use VOIP consistently, constantly, calling targets, giving intel, VOIP is worthless and you are personally to blame for every last one of your losses.

Edited by Kjudoon, 26 February 2015 - 12:23 AM.

[FatYak]

Kjudoon, on 26 February 2015 - 12:22 AM, said:

Okay you solo queue whiners.

You asked for VOIP.
You QQed for VOIP.
You cried for VOIP.
You RIGHTEOUSLY DEMANDED VOIP.

So you got VOIP.

And now.....

You don't USE VOIP!!!
You don't LISTEN to VOIP!!!

I'm not even sure you understand how team coordination works if given to you!

I call out "There's 5 mechs coming in behind you, F7!"

No one turns away from the squirrel in the rocks suckering in your LRMs.

I say, "Watch the left flank for a counter attack."

You run away and are gunned down one at a time.

I advise "If you go to the PUG Zapper, get inside and don't stand at the door!"

You say 4 squares away and refuse to move.

No, the problem wasn't that other teams coordinated. It's that you refuse to coordinate or work with others and believe that entitles you to goodies for... what I have no idea. The special little snowflake award. I dunno.

If you're not going to use VOIP consistently, constantly, calling targets, giving intel, VOIP is worthless and you are personally to blame for every last one of your losses.

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