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#8901 Aerei

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 06:32 AM

View PostJon Gotham, on 03 September 2016 - 12:12 PM, said:

So today I sold my three Cyclops assault I bought. I just basic'd them.. Not because they were bad-FAR from it. the game play since yesterday has been simply unenjoyable.Narc/tag/lrm/lrm/lrm/lrm/lrm....
I do not enjoy having to hide for entire matches, that is not good gameplay.

Find cover NOOB I hear defenders say, yes you can find cover..but it has to be the RIGHT cover, a certain height and width and depending on your mech and team's position it can be unobtainable.
Bring AMS NOOB I hear, with the amount of lrm spam this past day I'd need about 12 AMS on my mech alone to neuter it. In response I made an abomination Cyclops and lrmed the lrm spammers-it was sort of satisfying.
what broke me though was the disgusting attitude from a player I spoke to. She thought it was perfectly cool to bring narcs to enable these people to spam more effectively, thus spoiling any proper movement in games - because it helped her level up faster.
Yes, as long as she got what she wanted everyone else can go stuff themselves. I'm not waiting to play the game in an enjoyable environment, this mass boating of that type of indirect weapon SHOULD be restricted a bit-leaving cover is a death setence...and hint: you actually Have TO LEAVE COVER TO FIGHT, YOU CANNOT HIDE THE ENTIRE GAME.

In WOT arty had to be restricted as it had a similar effect, no one could actually fight anyone else because as soon as you broke cover to actually fire-you got hit by 4-5 hand of god weapons.
I'm sure Russ did this deliberately to troll the players after they have said some unkind things..true things but unkind.
Why would you directly encourage players to camp, forcing their own team to take hits for them and promote a weapon that tends to ruin games in quickplay?

So back to much more mobile mechs I think, I'm fed up with being forced to cower from people who can hold a mouse button down from 600m away perfectly safe. That is not good gameplay people.


Uhmmm....

I'm going to assume you don't have radar dep. Yeah if you get narc'ed you're kinda boned, but the cover allows you to break LoS, even on Polar. And, uhm....you realize if you're NARC'ed on some maps, no speed in the world is gonna save you, right?

Oh yeah, and you also sold the one IS Assault that can move at heavy speeds during your rage. More to the point, LRMs get less common at low tiers, and if I'm not mistaken, there was a NARC part of this challenge, so it may become less common when the event ends.

Aren't you going to feel stupid?

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 08:24 AM

View PostAerei, on 05 September 2016 - 06:32 AM, said:


Uhmmm....

I'm going to assume you don't have radar dep. Yeah if you get narc'ed you're kinda boned, but the cover allows you to break LoS, even on Polar. And, uhm....you realize if you're NARC'ed on some maps, no speed in the world is gonna save you, right?



only ECM saves ppl then. but how many people using mechs with ECM to cover the narced guys instead of just sitting alone sniping? .....

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 09:51 AM

I Think he meant john Gotham.

And yeah, the narc part of the recent challenge got me narced more often in three days then in the past two years.

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 02:38 PM

It happened











<<<<<<< (and then unhappened)

Edited by 3xnihilo, 06 September 2016 - 04:17 PM.


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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:59 PM

Can't wait for this event to be over, its like an act of desperation on P.G.I's part to get people playing with less weapons on their mechs.

If this is their idea of a way froward, it will probably be my last nail in the coffin, i'm already pissed at them for running events during play testing, and not so much the endlessly bad match making system, but the whining 'kids' that have to say how utterly sick of bad teams they are when doing nothing themselves in very meta mechs

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Posted 06 September 2016 - 04:27 AM

At Canyon Network. I am in my Griffin 2N (Eventtime is Lurmtime). 3 Minutes after start we are stretched out and one Assault is left behind. He call for help. I rush to him (taking fire on the way!) and see its a Zeus fighting with a Streakcrow. I engage the Crow. The crow focus me now and what did the Zeus? He turned and run away! Incredible. A Zeus can´t handle a skillcrow, call for help and when help come he run away. What a stupid coward. After i killed the crow I seek him but I have luck... the enemy found him before me.

#8907 3xnihilo

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Posted 06 September 2016 - 06:21 AM

I was feeling pretty uninspired by my game play recently (probably because of all ththe matches leveling up the Phawks), but I got to looking at my stats from the 12 rounds I have played in the event. 393 damage/round, 2.67 kdr, 12 kmdd. Not incredible for a lot of you guys, but I remember back when I started playing and how breaking 200 was a great achievement or the first time I got a hat trick in an lrm 10/2 ml Anansi with just over 300 damage and what an impressive round I thought that was. I guess at least I have improved a little bit in 2 years ;) Give me a couple more years and maybe I will actually git gud :D

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Posted 06 September 2016 - 09:15 AM

i have done it... i redone my holy victor-9S loadout and changed the ac20 for 2 uac5....
BUT THEN I BOUGHT A -9B AND SLAPPED A AC20 IN IT SO SUCK IT! :D

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Posted 06 September 2016 - 01:56 PM

View PostAlienized, on 06 September 2016 - 09:15 AM, said:

i have done it... i redone my holy victor-9S loadout and changed the ac20 for 2 uac5....
BUT THEN I BOUGHT A -9B AND SLAPPED A AC20 IN IT SO SUCK IT! Posted Image

thats the way I like it :)

#8910 3xnihilo

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Posted 06 September 2016 - 04:15 PM

So long tier 3 - those two rounds were...really awful, when was camping the basement on HPG ever a good idea anyway?

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Posted 07 September 2016 - 08:47 AM

View PostAlienized, on 06 September 2016 - 09:15 AM, said:

i have done it... i redone my holy victor-9S loadout and changed the ac20 for 2 uac5.... BUT THEN I BOUGHT A -9B AND SLAPPED A AC20 IN IT SO SUCK IT! :D


NOOOOO a Victor without an AC 20 is just wrong, unless it is a 9K then it is packing a guass

that typed i was looking at the duel UAC5 build but I am a just poor MechWarrior, I need those Cbills, Cause it's, easy come, easy go.....

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Posted 07 September 2016 - 09:09 AM

View Postloopala, on 07 September 2016 - 08:47 AM, said:


NOOOOO a Victor without an AC 20 is just wrong, unless it is a 9K then it is packing a guass

that typed i was looking at the duel UAC5 build but I am a just poor MechWarrior, I need those Cbills, Cause it's, easy come, easy go.....


the build is pretty easy.
xl350, 4 jj's, 2 uac5 + 4 tons of ammo, 2 srm6+ artemis and 2 mlas.

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Posted 07 September 2016 - 09:19 AM

SOOOO Close

Mordor Conquest is the best game play there is!!! but no crappy canyon assault


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Posted 07 September 2016 - 09:33 AM

To all of the players that have the Advanced Zoom modules and insist on trying to shoot fast movers at 500m or less (usually much less) with it engaged: you suck. Do yourself and your team a favor and either learn to use it only when appropriate or don't equip it at all.

NOTE: Not really a whine. More of a rant. But figured this was the best place for it.

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Posted 07 September 2016 - 01:40 PM

View PostSupersmacky, on 07 September 2016 - 09:33 AM, said:

To all of the players that have the Advanced Zoom modules and insist on trying to shoot fast movers at 500m or less (usually much less) with it engaged: you suck. Do yourself and your team a favor and either learn to use it only when appropriate or don't equip it at all.

NOTE: Not really a whine. More of a rant. But figured this was the best place for it.

this is the perfect place for that post

Welcome to the whiner's club :)

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 10:56 AM

View Post3xnihilo, on 06 September 2016 - 04:15 PM, said:

So long tier 3 - those two rounds were...really awful, when was camping the basement on HPG ever a good idea anyway?


it CAN be done- but requires patience which is against PUG rules.

had the rare occasion when someone offered that (a) plan before the match. hearing nothing better I shrugged and went along with it- some plan better than nothing. of course we had mr. "we're gonna lose" in his assault before the match even started- his refrain for the match. so 11 of us go under (guess who didn't?). we're up 3-0, then 5-1 (guess who died and promptly vowed to report everyone on the team for nonparticipation or something in minute 3 of the match).

so we're up 5-1, all the entrances watched, other team too scared to come in and scattered into two groups. then it began. mech 1 and 2 see an enemy who managed to escape and start chasing as we say to stay and let them come to us. they promptly get FFed down by the enemy mechs on the higher ground, 5-3. assault mech 3 and 4 see how well it worked for 1 and 2 and wander off another way without a word and get taken out by the second group (one of them complaining about LRMs) and suddenly it's 6-6 now.

i'm down to 1 ML and about 40% of a mech so all I can do is wait for someone to walk by and not notice me so i stay underneath with the rest but the tide has turned. as our dead were assaults and theirs were their lights and mediums when two of them distract at one entrance the other 4 heavy/assaults come flying in from the other side and it's a 7-12 loss in the end.

all we had to do was wait and even if they did push inside we'd still have them outnumbered and probably get the win. but nope- PUG mechs contain a very high sugar content which keeps them from being able to stand still in any non peek and poking environment and would rather rush to certain death than win the match "boringly".

note: said impatient unable to wait for the win folk also remain spectating after they die...in order to wait for the match to end..?

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 11:16 AM

View PostTanar, on 08 September 2016 - 10:56 AM, said:


it CAN be done- but requires patience which is against PUG rules.

had the rare occasion when someone offered that (a) plan before the match. hearing nothing better I shrugged and went along with it- some plan better than nothing. of course we had mr. &quot;we're gonna lose&quot; in his assault before the match even started- his refrain for the match. so 11 of us go under (guess who didn't?). we're up 3-0, then 5-1 (guess who died and promptly vowed to report everyone on the team for nonparticipation or something in minute 3 of the match).

so we're up 5-1, all the entrances watched, other team too scared to come in and scattered into two groups. then it began. mech 1 and 2 see an enemy who managed to escape and start chasing as we say to stay and let them come to us. they promptly get FFed down by the enemy mechs on the higher ground, 5-3. assault mech 3 and 4 see how well it worked for 1 and 2 and wander off another way without a word and get taken out by the second group (one of them complaining about LRMs) and suddenly it's 6-6 now.

i'm down to 1 ML and about 40% of a mech so all I can do is wait for someone to walk by and not notice me so i stay underneath with the rest but the tide has turned. as our dead were assaults and theirs were their lights and mediums when two of them distract at one entrance the other 4 heavy/assaults come flying in from the other side and it's a 7-12 loss in the end.

all we had to do was wait and even if they did push inside we'd still have them outnumbered and probably get the win. but nope- PUG mechs contain a very high sugar content which keeps them from being able to stand still in any non peek and poking environment and would rather rush to certain death than win the match &quot;boringly&quot;.

note: said impatient unable to wait for the win folk also remain spectating after they die...in order to wait for the match to end..?


I always have more luck on the outside, always. But I always like to stay mobile so sitting and waiting doesn't really fit me well. That said, if the whole team goes basement I go with them, and wait to die at an entrance where inevitably a friendly assault will shoot me in the back while I am trying to poke out and shoot the enemy. Then complain that I am in his way. HPG is one of my favorite maps, but I have no love for basement camping (in case that was t clear ;) )

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 01:18 PM

l3l i love my atlas-d-dc. it has such a ******** loadout that alot of peps cant deal with it.
3 lrm10+ artemis (and we know, 2 of those only got 5 tubes.... lmao.)
2 uac5
2 mlas


and then there are these ppl... that are defending his bud who obviously done everything wrong, capping all time on a conquest battle with a cheetah... and bitching bout the guy telling him that he played bad.
moaning and crying what a jerk i am and so on. knowing exactly how i played was also something he knew, telling me that i played much worse than that cheetah dude.

was in warhawk. got top damage of the team.

why oh why are people so damn dumb, deaf and blind at the same time....

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 04:34 PM

saved up 1600 mc and no mechbay sale Posted Image
so many mechs I want but don't have the mechbays for!

hope there's one at new years, even if it was guaranteed, I'm still not very patient!

Edited by Windscape, 08 September 2016 - 04:33 PM.


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Posted 09 September 2016 - 02:40 AM

See far my experience in tier 3 has been: make every effort to get as far away from the enemy as possible as quickly as possible for as long as possible. In tier 4, usually, if you were with 2 or three other friendlies and ran across 3-4 enemies, the friendlies would stay with you and others would come over to join the fight. Now, when you engage, everyone leaves you as quick as they can.





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