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#1 Jazzbandit1313

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:18 AM

I want to try one of these puppies but I'm not sure where to start. I want one of the less expensive models, but I dont know which is best to start. The big difference being the missile hardpoints on the arms or torsos. Any advice/suggestions?

#2 JoJoxy

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:24 AM

Well...
The VA can do ac20 + 4 streaks, or a decent lrm boat.
The V can do 2 ac5 + 2 ppc for a bit of meta.
The K works decent with 4 ppc or 2 ppc + 1 erpcc or 4 llas, because they are all arm mounted.

At least thats what i did with them :lol:

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:26 AM

Man a 40 alpha with a standard...streaks and the ac/20. That sounds HOT. as in awesome. but i really want to try that now

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:37 AM

I currently run the ONI-V with Mlas x2, LRM5 x2, LRM15, AMS, and a AC10. It works for me. Your mileage may vary.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:40 AM

Here's the Orion I kept after leveling them up.

ON1-KStandard engine, AC20 brawler, with a couple LRM5s for shooting stuff at range.

It does run a little hot but the 325 engine makes it quick enough to bring the main firepower into range. A definite improvement over my previous, but similar build, that used a STD300.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:52 AM

Oddly I have many more drops in the Orion than the Victor, despite the VTR being (pre nerf) pretty much better in every way. Just something about the hardpoints, and the looks of the Orion please me.ç

My fave Orion is a rather oddball build.
ON1-VA
if one prefers standard engines, then drop in a 300 std. But cruising 80 kph gives this some serious strike capability, and even with GH, it stays very cool with minimal effort. I have my highest scoring game ever in this guy, as well as over a dozen 800+ damage matches, and four 1000+ damage matches. And that is in the 50 games I have run it in this config.
http://i290.photobuc...9_59_21_622.png I've had a couple of matches with 8 kills, and one or 2 with higher (barely) damage, but this is the highest matchscore for me.

Alternately, for taking advantage of the current Meta, my original build
ON1-VA
chainfire the lrms and watch them panic. Plus the Orion can achieve better fire angle trajectories for it's lrms than any other mech, as I regularly fire them in canyon network and easily clear the walls.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 20 March 2014 - 04:39 PM.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:57 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 March 2014 - 11:52 AM, said:

Oddly I have many more drops in the Orion than the Victor, despite the VTR being (pre nerf) pretty much better in every way. Just something about the hardpoints, and the looks of the Orion please me.ç

My fave Orion is a rather oddball build.
ON1-VA
if one prefers standard engines, then drop in a 300 std. But cruising 80 kph gives this some serious strike capability, and even with GH, it stays very cool with minimal effort. I have my highest scoring game ever in this guy, as well as over a dozen 800+ damage matches, and four 1000+ damage matches. And that is in the 50 games I have run it in this config.
http://i290.photobuc...9_59_21_622.png I've had a couple of matches with 8 kills, and one or 2 with higher (barely) damage, but this is the highest matchscore for me.

Alternately, for taking advantage of the current Meta, my original build
ON1-VA
chainfire the lrms and watch them panic. Plus the Orion can achieve better fire angle trajectories for it's lrms than any other mech, as I regularly fire them in canyon network and easily clear the walls.

Ahhem broken link Ahhem.

Also it's seriously making me laugh that my firestarter is soooo close to beating your score for the VA.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 01:17 PM

The VA makes for a fun SRM brawler (still waiting for SRM hit reg to go from 'okay' to 'rocking')

I use the K as a solid beefy brawler (AC20 / 2 mediums / 2 larges)

Frankly - with a combination of the Victor being nerfed and incoming class restrictions - I think that the meta will shift so that the Orion goes from decent to very solid.

It always feels like it wants to overpower other mechs - but with all the assaults out there - it can't. With class restrictions - for the most part it will.

Edited by Charons Little Helper, 20 March 2014 - 01:20 PM.


#9 Ngamok

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 01:20 PM

View PostCharons Little Helper, on 20 March 2014 - 01:17 PM, said:

Actually - the M probably makes for the best LRM boat - unlike the V, you can get up to 40 missiles in one volley without ghost heat.

The V makes for a fun SRM brawler (still waiting for SRM hit reg to go from 'okay' to 'rocking')

I use the K as a solid beefy brawler (AC20 / 2 mediums / 2 larges)

Frankly - with a combination of the Victor being nerfed and incoming class restrictions - I think that the meta will shift so that the Orion goes from decent to very solid.

It always feels like it wants to overpower other mechs - but with all the assaults out there - it can't. With class restrictions - for the most part it will.


My VA is my LRM version. My M turned into an AC/20, 3x ML, 3x SSRM2 mech. Basically the brawler.

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 March 2014 - 11:52 AM, said:

Oddly I have many more drops in the Orion than the Victor, despite the VTR being (pre nerf) pretty much better in every way. Just something about the hardpoints, and the looks of the Orion please me.ç

My fave Orion is a rather oddball build.
ON1-VA
if one prefers standard engines, then drop in a 300 std. But cruising 80 kph gives this some serious strike capability, and even with GH, it stays very cool with minimal effort. I have my highest scoring game ever in this guy, as well as over a dozen 800+ damage matches, and four 1000+ damage matches. And that is in the 50 games I have run it in this config.
http://i290.photobuc...9_59_21_622.png I've had a couple of matches with 8 kills, and one or 2 with higher (barely) damage, but this is the highest matchscore for me.

Alternately, for taking advantage of the current Meta, my original build
ON1-VA
chainfire the lrms and watch them panic. Plus the Orion can achieve better fire angle trajectories for it's lrms than any other mech, as I regularly fire them in canyon network and easily clear the walls.


The Awesome and Catapult pretty much fire their LRMs straight up when they come out. The Stalkers go out and then up. The Orion seems to go up more as well which is why they clear.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 01:47 PM

My VA runs a 300 standard, AC20 (3 tons ammo), 2xML, 3xLRM5 (2 tons ammo), 13 double sinks, endo, and 448 armor. I tried it with Streaks instead of LRMs at first, but I'm too impatient. I'd try to close with the enemy so that I could start getting some hits in, and I'd do some damage, but I'd get shot to bits in the process. Swapping to LRMs allowed me to sit back and be patient while still doing something. I don't brawl as well as I could, but the enemies are generally weaker when the time comes to brawl, it usually pans out in my favor.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 01:53 PM

i recommend K variant.

Edited by Turist0AT, 20 March 2014 - 01:53 PM.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 04:16 PM

Orion 1 K

Std 300
AC20
2LL on left arm
2ML on right arm.

48 point alpha with 14 DHS she's got a 1.22 heat management. Excellent survivability with a STD engine and a lot of firepower left if you lose either torso - the twin LLs are on the opposite side as the AC. Fast weapon recycle in good stages; you pop an alpha, fire MLs, by the time they're done shooting your LLs are cycled, as they're finishing the AC20 is cycled. It's a good combo chain for chewing people up and it's all terribly accurate. If you're good with a torso AC20 then she's a very accurate, very dangerous girl.

It's a rock solid performer for me that crushes hopes and dreams within 300m and delivers the pain out to 800m.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 04:38 PM

View PostJazzbandit1313, on 20 March 2014 - 11:57 AM, said:



Also it's seriously making me laugh that my firestarter is soooo close to beating your score for the VA.

and?

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 05:15 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 March 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

and?

just yeah that

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 05:21 PM

View PostJazzbandit1313, on 20 March 2014 - 05:15 PM, said:

just yeah that

righteo then

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 07:30 PM

View PostNapes339, on 20 March 2014 - 11:40 AM, said:

Here's the Orion I kept after leveling them up.

ON1-KStandard engine, AC20 brawler, with a couple LRM5s for shooting stuff at range.

It does run a little hot but the 325 engine makes it quick enough to bring the main firepower into range. A definite improvement over my previous, but similar build, that used a STD300.


This is almost exactly what I run. It works great!

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 08:10 PM

I have all 4(just don't have the Protector) and I use LRMs as the primary weapons on all of them, with various mixtures of ML, MPL, and SRMs as the back up weapons.

and all use a 300XL.

they're all a blast to play in my opinion.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 08:55 PM

Orion is my favourite mech..

I love slugging it out at close range :)

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 12:46 AM

I gotta say this build was hurtful when i did manage to get within 250 ish meters
61 kph with 2 lb 10x's
3 srm 4's
2 medium lasers
13 doubles
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...df9f4e14860fe7c
Drop the engine to a standard 250 for another tonn - possibly another heatsink
or change a Srm 4 to a Srm 2 for a another tonn


or the 1 er large laser , 1 large pulse laser , lrm 35 artemis orion but beware XL so stay back a bit

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fbc33f7395076dc
surprisingly the pulse laser was pretty helpful for brawler later into the game or legging lights

Drop the pulse laser for more tonnge and armor if you prefer two er large
or Drop a lrm 15 to a lrm 10 for 2 more tonns



1 tonn more ammo and armor with the large pulse laser still intact - changed lrm 15 to 10
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...97dd1efae35f76b

Edited by kesuga7, 21 March 2014 - 12:56 AM.


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 06:08 AM

I love the Orions. My primary ride is this Protector.

Protector: 2ERPPC's UAC5 and a SRM6 with ARTIMIS and 17 DHS. It moves at 80Kph with speed tweak. A long range killer.





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