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[Sug]

meteorol, on 27 March 2014 - 09:59 PM, said:

Well, it could also mean that most players are close to base elo range.
Scoring high in the tournament doesn't mean your elo is high.
It means you played much, spammed arti every match, and had 10 good matches out of the 200 you played for the weekend.

Since scoring high is not only dependent on your own skill, but also the skill of the guys you play against, the chance of a slightly above medium skill player to do well against medium skill players is just as high as the chance of a high skilled player doing well against above medium skill players.

Heck, a player could be in the lowest bracket of elo hell, still getting the best socre in the tournament. In the country of the blind the one-eyed man is king.

To get into the top ten your average game would have to be something like 6 kills, 6 assists, and 600 damage. That's a good player at any Elo.

My point was on a fairly new account I was seeing people that clearly are better than the average person that has 30 games played. If the MM matches up players of such vastly different skills than why have a MM? All it's doing at this point, supposedly, is matching premade groups with groups of equal size.

[meteorol]

Sug, on 27 March 2014 - 10:42 PM, said:

My point was on a fairly new account I was seeing people that clearly are better than the average person that has 30 games played. If the MM matches up players of such vastly different skills than why have a MM? All it's doing at this point, supposedly, is matching premade groups with groups of equal size.

There are simply not enough players. The MM can't work. I'm waiting up for 3 minutes whenever i try to get into a match, doesn't matter what time of the day.

[Abivard]

If we were able to look at the win/loss records of the top 10's I believe that we would see a w/l ratio under 1.

[Sug]

Abivard, on 28 March 2014 - 01:32 AM, said:

If we were able to look at the win/loss records of the top 10's I believe that we would see a w/l ratio under 1.

The ones I've seen reported are generally close to or above 1. Which makes sense because these are solo drops and a Win didn't add much to your score.

[Ordellus]

Bobzilla, on 26 March 2014 - 10:55 AM, said:

So In game VoIP would solve most of the problems with game.

Well no, b/c then people like the OP would have to actually compete with their enemy rather than having massive advantages constantly.

And what's the fun of a game in which your skill decides the outcome, as opposed to a bunch of out of game factors such as how many people you have in a group, or what other programs they're using...

[Davers]

Ordellus, on 05 April 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:

Well no, b/c then people like the OP would have to actually compete with their enemy rather than having massive advantages constantly.

And what's the fun of a game in which your skill decides the outcome, as opposed to a bunch of out of game factors such as how many people you have in a group, or what other programs they're using...

You seem to like Titanfall. How is the VOIP there? The only reference I found was http://www.titanfall...game-voip.1127/ but you know how forums can be

[cSand]

Sug, on 27 March 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

The weekend of the tournament I was on my nub account with about 30 games played and I kept seeing names from the Top 10 in my games. Pretty sure matchmaking is nonexistent at this point.

There's also the possibility that you're just that totally f**king awesome

Kidding aside, I'd likely attribute that (alongside of course the woeful matchmaker) with a high likelihood of "top level" players sandbagging with new accounts to win the tourney

Edited by cSand, 05 April 2014 - 08:01 PM.

[Soulscour]

cSand, on 05 April 2014 - 07:59 PM, said:

There's also the possibility that you're just that totally f**king awesome

Kidding aside, I'd likely attribute that (alongside of course the woeful matchmaker) with a high likelihood of "top level" players sandbagging with new accounts to win the tourney

Why would anyone sandbag to win stuff on another account?

[cSand]

Soulscour, on 05 April 2014 - 08:44 PM, said:

Why would anyone sandbag to win stuff on another account?

I would think its less about the "stuff" and more about the "winning"

I could be wrong of course, I'm nowhere near even "mediocre level"

Edited by cSand, 06 April 2014 - 08:20 AM.

[Ordellus]

Davers, on 05 April 2014 - 07:20 PM, said:

You seem to like Titanfall. How is the VOIP there? The only reference I found was http://www.titanfall...game-voip.1127/ but you know how forums can be

http://www.reddit.co...k_in_titanfall/

It has it, and it functions like you would expect in a game from 2014 centered around being on a multiplayer team over the internet.

But since I'm assuming your point is that there will be tards on there, we'll try to follow your logic.

1) Someone might misuse it, therefore it shouldn't exist.

Let's apply that to:
highways....nope doesn't work, even when misused they are still really useful
Planes....nope doesn't work, see above
Credit cards.... nope doesn't work, see above
Medication.... nope doesn't work, see above

Wow it's almost like you're a total idiot that didn't bother to think out an argument at all, and instead simply went with the troll option.

p.s. any competent (aka not PGI) company would also include a 'mute player' function, but again you like to ignore the obvious so that you can stay convinced you aren't wrong.

[Davers]

Ordellus, on 06 April 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

http://www.reddit.co...k_in_titanfall/

It has it, and it functions like you would expect in a game from 2014 centered around being on a multiplayer team over the internet.

But since I'm assuming your point is that there will be tards on there, we'll try to follow your logic.

1) Someone might misuse it, therefore it shouldn't exist.

Let's apply that to:
highways....nope doesn't work, even when misused they are still really useful
Planes....nope doesn't work, see above
Credit cards.... nope doesn't work, see above
Medication.... nope doesn't work, see above

Wow it's almost like you're a total idiot that didn't bother to think out an argument at all, and instead simply went with the troll option.

p.s. any competent (aka not PGI) company would also include a 'mute player' function, but again you like to ignore the obvious so that you can stay convinced you aren't wrong.

It's amazing how you took an honest question and completely turned it around and insulted me personally. Bravo.

[ShinVector]

Sug, on 27 March 2014 - 10:42 PM, said:

To get into the top ten your average game would have to be something like 6 kills, 6 assists, and 600 damage. That's a good player at any Elo.

My point was on a fairly new account I was seeing people that clearly are better than the average person that has 30 games played. If the MM matches up players of such vastly different skills than why have a MM? All it's doing at this point, supposedly, is matching premade groups with groups of equal size.

It just MWO player pool dieing... Such player wait from a couple to several minutes to find matches. In case it wasn't mention the new MM lowers the ELO band if can't find the right pool.