10 replies to this topic

[Sephlock]

If need be, there could be a toggle "Clantech only" or "IS tech only", with the former config only allowed in queues for Clan players, and the latter... well, you know .

[theta123]

I would love to see ER medium lasers on my Battlemaster...

[Escef]

The problem is that the IICs were almost all ground up re-engineering jobs of the originals. Even at the same tonnage they use clan manufactured structural components and other equipment. I honestly can't think of a single IIC that lacks at least one major clan component (endo, ferro, XL, DHS).

[CyclonerM]

I do not see why the existing of a Battlemaster IIC (or any other IIC 'Mech) second-line BattleMech should mean that you can put Clan weapons and components on your Inner Sphere-manufactured BattleMaster

[Zerberus]

I don't even understand the logic behind this...

It strikes me as akin to saying "because modern jet fighters can launch guided missiles and drop nukes, a single engine Cessna should be able to, too".....

Dunno...

Edited by Zerberus, 25 March 2014 - 05:48 AM.

[MonkeyDCecil]

Zerberus, it is more like a modified Cessna could too. And I get what the OP is saying.
It is something along these lines, me think. If the clans can do it, why can't I?
And in the novels and I believe other places of lore, they put clan tech on IS mechs. I could be wrong on that one.
Personally I am not sure how I feel about mixing tech. On one hand part of me is like hell yeah I want clan tech
on my IS mech. And the other part is saying , no true tech only. And the true tech only is because of my time
playing in NBT, Netbattletech. I am not sure if in TT, whether or not you could mix tech. I quit playing TT, before the
clans came out.

[Trauglodyte]

Sephlock, on 25 March 2014 - 04:50 AM, said:

If need be, there could be a toggle "Clantech only" or "IS tech only", with the former config only allowed in queues for Clan players, and the latter... well, you know .

I would say that they need to be prevented from doing so. BUT, I think that PGI should sell the IIC versions. The only ones that we have, though, are:

Locust IIC http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Locust_IIC
Commando IIC http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Commando_IIC
Jenner IIC http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jenner_IIC
Hunchback IIC http://www.sarna.net...i/Hunchback_IIC
Shadowhawk IIC http://www.sarna.net...Shadow_Hawk_IIC
Griffin IIC http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Griffin_IIC
Conjurer (Hellhound) - 50 ton rebuild originally described as the Wolverine IIC http://www.sarna.net...urer_(Hellhound)
Thunderbolt IIC - built in 3085 so not viable here http://www.sarna.net...Thunderbolt_IIC
Orion IIC - Alexander Kerensky's rebuild so also not viable http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Orion_IIC
Highlander IIC http://www.sarna.net.../Highlander_IIC
Atlas IIC http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Atlas_II

It would be enough to make for an interesting money grab for those that want to play IS mechs with Clan tech.

Edited by Trauglodyte, 25 March 2014 - 07:37 AM.

[tucsonspeed6]

I say release IIC versions as variants of the base IS mechs (so long as the weigh the same) that are clan tech only. So if you want clan tech in your hunchie, the HBK-IIC would be available, and it gives another option for mastering the variants.

[TehSBGX]

Honestly, if Clan tech won't be strictly better like pgi is claiming then mix tech will probably happen in the long run.

[Jack Avery]

Trauglodyte, on 25 March 2014 - 07:32 AM, said:

I would say that they need to be prevented from doing so. BUT, I think that PGI should sell the IIC versions. The only ones that we have, though, are:

Locust IIC http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Locust_IIC
Commando IIC http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Commando_IIC
Jenner IIC http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jenner_IIC
Hunchback IIC http://www.sarna.net...i/Hunchback_IIC
Shadowhawk IIC http://www.sarna.net...Shadow_Hawk_IIC
Griffin IIC http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Griffin_IIC
Conjurer (Hellhound) - 50 ton rebuild originally described as the Wolverine IIC http://www.sarna.net...urer_(Hellhound)
Thunderbolt IIC - built in 3085 so not viable here http://www.sarna.net...Thunderbolt_IIC
Orion IIC - Alexander Kerensky's rebuild so also not viable http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Orion_IIC
Highlander IIC http://www.sarna.net.../Highlander_IIC
Atlas IIC http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Atlas_II

It would be enough to make for an interesting money grab for those that want to play IS mechs with Clan tech.

It's actually an Atlas II, not a IIC. It doesn't use Clantech, it's all Star League; Clanners just happen to have every single one ever produced. Not really sure how it adds into the mix-tech conversation, but I want it, so it was worth mentioning.

[Strum Wealh]

Escef, on 25 March 2014 - 05:16 AM, said:

The problem is that the IICs were almost all ground up re-engineering jobs of the originals. Even at the same tonnage they use clan manufactured structural components and other equipment. I honestly can't think of a single IIC that lacks at least one major clan component (endo, ferro, XL, DHS).

CyclonerM, on 25 March 2014 - 05:18 AM, said:

I do not see why the existing of a Battlemaster IIC (or any other IIC 'Mech) second-line BattleMech should mean that you can put Clan weapons and components on your Inner Sphere-manufactured BattleMaster

Indeed, the IICs are complete drawing-board-to-showroom-floor redesigns, wholly separate from their parent design in all ways except name and maybe a few aesthetic elements.

What the OP is getting at is something more like the "C variants" of certain 'Mechs, like the Shadow Hawk C, Thunderbolt C, Victor C and Atlas C: IS-built frames/hulls salvaged from the battlefield & repaired by the Clan technicians, refitted with Clan weapons/equipment, and pressed back into service by the Clans (usually as garrison units).