87 replies to this topic

[Petard]

Congratulations to the online player group who shall remain nameless, that I saw online today, sync dropping with as many of their members possible on the same team....I strongly suspect that we had 2 or 3 of em on our team as well, given how useless they were, and given that they were from the same faction.

Said players bragged in game about using "true teamwork", wow, that's awesome, one team all on comms vs. a pug team, in which I was one of a 4 man.

Seriously guys, grow up, no-one else gives a rats backside about the size of your epeen, if you wanna drop with 12 guys, join the 12 man team queue, trying to play 12 mans vs. pugs is lame and weak, you should be a little ashamed of yourselves.

/End Rant

[El Bandito]

LRMs are fine, learn to...wait, it is not LRM QQ thread?

What you suspected might be true, but I do not think it is probable that so many of them managed to successfully sync-drop in the same game. Their Elos should be different.

And any self respecting group player will not intentionally perform badly, just because their teammates are on the opposite side. At least, not us Mariks. We revel in fratricide.

Edited by El Bandito, 30 March 2014 - 02:54 AM.

[Petard]

They were not Mariks, and I agree, I would never deliberately perform badly either, whether fighting clan mates or not....

I guess I should have taken a screenie of the end battle screen, but quit in disgust before it was over, all the same, 9 players from the same faction, plus 3 randoms in trial mechs, plus 3 more of the same faction on my team, who did their level best to avoid contact with the enemy, makes my spider senses tingle a little....You may be 100% correct, and we were just witness to a statistical anomaly, however, given my knowledge of human nature, I am highly sceptical.

Being a veteran of many different MMO's, I have seen many a sync drop before, and have a fair idea of what one looks like...I called them out on the sync drop, and not one of them denied it, instead, lots of gobbing off about "true teamwork" ensued...

At least I killed the mouthy one in the HGN 733C, who was such an elite player that he overheated in front of my D-DC....

Edited by Petard, 30 March 2014 - 03:01 AM.

[Mi Ro Ki]

My prying eyes witnessed this event. Clearly did admit to being a *clan* (if truth be told). This isn't the first occasion i have come across this in a pug either. Like Petard said, if there ever is mates vs mates and purposely bring down a team for the better of a stat padding clan, i would seriously be ashamed of myself.

Needless to say they were ,THE, most boring bunch of sports to ever verse in a mechwarrior match. Stalemate Pro's.

[Felbombling]

Embrace the horror.

Sync drops have been happening almost from the very beginning, but it is all about to end when the drop module gets implemented... finally... by PGI. At least, in theory it should all end.

[wanderer]

El Bandito, on 30 March 2014 - 02:42 AM, said:

LRMs are fine, learn to...wait, it is not LRM QQ thread?

What you suspected might be true, but I do not think it is probable that so many of them managed to successfully sync-drop in the same game. Their Elos should be different.

And any self respecting group player will not intentionally perform badly, just because their teammates are on the opposite side. At least, not us Mariks. We revel in fratricide.

Beware of glass houses, lest someone throw a stone.



Three guesses what Alpha lance did when they saw Roadbeer and Davers on the other side of the drop.

[Duncan Aravain]

Someone missing a petard?.........

[Amsro]

Petard, on 30 March 2014 - 02:33 AM, said:

Seriously guys, grow up, no-one else gives a rats backside about the size of your epeen, if you wanna drop with 12 guys, join the 12 man team queue, trying to play 12 mans vs. pugs is lame and weak, you should be a little ashamed of yourselves.

/End Rant

How about join the 4+ team initiative instead. Imagine how much better of a chance you would have had all 6 of your friends were on a team. Maybe one more shows up, no problem, just drop as a 7 man. Everytime your team increases in size expect a larger team group on the other side.

Instead PGI tries to stop this and forces players to sync drop. Not everyone has 12 people around all the time to wait 45 minutes to find another 12 man to launch against. It is so trivial it isn't worth it.

Not to mention that while you are sync dropping it is just as likely that they fight each other as end up on the same team. I have had this happen literally hundreds of times. Kinda fun in it's own way, but not the original idea to be sure.

So instead of getting angry at fellow 4 man lances try making some noise to PGI about matching large groups vs large groups and removing the team size limit. You know the concept the players wanted that PGI said in December was coming.

Don't attack the symptom go to the source of the problem 2-4 man limit.

[Davers]

Petard, on 30 March 2014 - 02:47 AM, said:

They were not Mariks, and I agree, I would never deliberately perform badly either, whether fighting clan mates or not....

I guess I should have taken a screenie of the end battle screen, but quit in disgust before it was over, all the same, 9 players from the same faction, plus 3 randoms in trial mechs, plus 3 more of the same faction on my team, who did their level best to avoid contact with the enemy, makes my spider senses tingle a little....You may be 100% correct, and we were just witness to a statistical anomaly, however, given my knowledge of human nature, I am highly sceptical.

Being a veteran of many different MMO's, I have seen many a sync drop before, and have a fair idea of what one looks like...I called them out on the sync drop, and not one of them denied it, instead, lots of gobbing off about "true teamwork" ensued...

At least I killed the mouthy one in the HGN 733C, who was such an elite player that he overheated in front of my D-DC....

'Accidental' syc drops happen occasionally. I often find myself against other Mariks I know in the same match, usually on the opposing side.

StaggerCheck, on 30 March 2014 - 09:27 AM, said:

Embrace the horror.

Sync drops have been happening almost from the very beginning, but it is all about to end when the drop module gets implemented... finally... by PGI. At least, in theory it should all end.

With a limit of one premade per side it will severely reduce groups sync dropping. However, once solo players find themselves in the same lobby as their friends, they will most likely stay in that lobby.

wanderer, on 30 March 2014 - 09:57 AM, said:

Beware of glass houses, lest someone throw a stone.



Three guesses what Alpha lance did when they saw Roadbeer and Davers on the other side of the drop.

We did speak with them after that match, and their actions were not because of us, but due to the actions of one of the other lances on their team in the previous match. Honestly, it was very embarrassing for Road and I to see that. If the other team had filed a complaint to PGI it would have been justified.

[XX Sulla XX]

Sync dropping will always around until they have a way for 4-11 people to drop together. But 99% of those people sync dropping have a lot of fun killing each other. And for majority of games you are not on the same team. For us we normally have 2-8 people on teamspeak. So we have a lot of times where we have 1-4 extra people. Some times we drop 4 and 1 or 3 and 3 or 4 and 2 etc. But the vast majority of the time we end up fighting and kiling each other.

[LORD TSARKON]

Davers, on 30 March 2014 - 10:20 AM, said:

We did speak with them after that match, and their actions were not because of us, but due to the actions of one of the other lances on their team in the previous match. Honestly, it was very embarrassing for Road and I to see that. If the other team had filed a complaint to PGI it would have been justified.

Still does not justify their actions.. especially since its a NEW game with New Lances (was every player aware?)...

While I agree the limiting factor of having a 6 premade team or some other number between 4-12 is needed... its crap like this makes this game less fun...

However at least you guys dealt with it and posted here... so thank you for that.

gg carryon

[Davers]

LORD TSARKON, on 30 March 2014 - 10:33 AM, said:

Still does not justify their actions.. especially since its a NEW game with New Lances (was every player aware?)...

While I agree the limiting factor of having a 6 premade team or some other number between 4-12 is needed... its crap like this makes this game less fun...

However at least you guys dealt with it and posted here... so thank you for that.

gg carryon

I did not say their actions were justified under the CoC. I was merely saying it was not due to facing Roadbeer and myself, which wanderer's post implies. Apparently there were problems with another premade or players on their team from the drop before.

[Triordinant]

Some of these clans have scores or even hundreds of members. There's no excuse for not forming a 12-man and fighting another 12-man premade team (even one made up of their own members). They're either good and just want to sync-drop vs. PUGs to farm cbills and XPs faster or they're really bad and can only win against PUGs because they almost always lose against other premades.

[MechWarrior849305]

Triordinant, on 30 March 2014 - 10:43 AM, said:

Some of these clans have scores or even hundreds of members. There's no excuse for not forming a 12-man and fighting another 12-man premade team (even one made up of their own members). They're either good and just want to sync-drop vs. PUGs to farm cbills and XPs faster or they're really bad and can only win against PUGs because they almost always lose against other premades.

12-mans vs 12-mans were never good for farming C-Bills, actually they were merely to spend some C-Bills for strikes,UAVs and so on. So, obvious, sync-drops in PUGs are there for farming... Or, maybe, for stroking e-peens, ever since those players are "PRO-teamplayers". We'll never know this, cause they aren't playing 12-mans. Whatever...

[wanderer]

Davers, on 30 March 2014 - 10:40 AM, said:

I did not say their actions were justified under the CoC. I was merely saying it was not due to facing Roadbeer and myself, which wanderer's post implies. Apparently there were problems with another premade or players on their team from the drop before.

Let's also note that ironically, this means that there were at least two full premades on one side (the losing one, no less) and zero full ones on the one I was on- since premades are slotted Alpha, Beta, Charlie and Roadbeer/Daver was at best with two people, since neither of the other two in Alpha were part of the same group.

I saved that screenshot for more reasons than one.

[Davers]

wanderer, on 30 March 2014 - 10:56 AM, said:

Let's also note that ironically, this means that there were at least two full premades on one side (the losing one, no less) and zero full ones on the one I was on- since premades are slotted Alpha, Beta, Charlie and Roadbeer/Daver was at best with two people, since neither of the other two in Alpha were part of the same group.

I saved that screenshot for more reasons than one.

Actually, it was a 3 man. You were the odd man out.

Allen B Caldwell is a mercenary of Caldwell's Heavy Company (recruiting ) who found a home on marik's TS.

Edited by Davers, 30 March 2014 - 11:05 AM.

[Lootee]

It never happens. It's all in your head, just coincidence. No team/clan/whatever ever sync drops in the normal queue.

[Morang]

Petard, on 30 March 2014 - 02:33 AM, said:

join the 12 man team queue, trying to play 12 mans vs. pugs is lame and weak, you should be a little ashamed of yourselves.

It's hard to arrange a 12-man with PGI's great effort in social field. Only large units can allow it. And when you arranged your company, finding another 12-man company to fight is harder in geometrical progression.

Sync drops are OK as long as people can land both in same and in separate teams. Bragging about the stomp when premades landed in the same team is not.

[Triordinant]

PanchoTortilla, on 30 March 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:

It never happens. It's all in your head, just coincidence. No team/clan/whatever ever sync drops in the normal queue.

Lucky catch. They don't always announce it (and some will vehemently deny, LOL!).

[kuangmk11]

PanchoTortilla, on 30 March 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:

It never happens. It's all in your head, just coincidence. No team/clan/whatever ever sync drops in the normal queue.

I hate coincidences.