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[POOTYTANGASAUR]

I have been running this build for a bit and have pulled off some amazing games. If you are frivelous with ammo i reccomend you drop ams and add ammo but with current setup the build has 1050 potential damage. I have dealt up to 955 in it so far.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ee872020a91ae7b
More ammo:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f2cac18ae1b9b31

BTW that is not the setup for my back armor (i use 10 back armor across all mechs except my cents)

PROOF (fo da haturz bra):

Edited by POOTYTANGASAUR, 07 March 2014 - 12:46 PM.

[Slepnir]

Yeah the AC 2/5 combo Is great unfortunately a little to heavy on a 65 ton mech it really limits your ammo.. the phract 4X at least gives you a few more tons to play with.

[SirLANsalot]

Slepnir, on 08 March 2014 - 12:00 AM, said:

Yeah the AC 2/5 combo Is great unfortunately a little to heavy on a 65 ton mech it really limits your ammo.. the phract 4X at least gives you a few more tons to play with.

ya, I always laughed at the Jagers trying to pretend there CTF-4x's. The DD is the only one that can do what it dose however (6 AC2 is quite powerful and the AC2 is weak enough in heat that the ghost heat dose very little to you).

[POOTYTANGASAUR]

SirLANsalot, on 08 March 2014 - 01:46 AM, said:

ya, I always laughed at the Jagers trying to pretend there CTF-4x's. The DD is the only one that can do what it dose however (6 AC2 is quite powerful and the AC2 is weak enough in heat that the ghost heat dose very little to you).

Lol my improved build shows ctf-4x how its done:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e61e560c6530a1b
The smaller engine achieves the same speed as the ctf-4x so i see it as no issue. Could even run a smaller engine for medium lasers. The jager does any ballistic builds better because it has the higher mounted weapons, i didn't see it as much of an advantage before but since i swapped from a 4 ac5 ctf-4x to a 4 ac5 jager i have actually started doing much much better. (4ac5 most damage i have done is 1250, 2ac2 and 2ac5 best is now 1107)
4 ac5 build:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9d6f13303376ab9
OR
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...913893361cf4258

Edited by POOTYTANGASAUR, 01 April 2014 - 05:11 PM.

[SirLANsalot]

POOTYTANGASAUR, on 01 April 2014 - 05:09 PM, said:

Lol my improved build shows ctf-4x how its done:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e61e560c6530a1b
The smaller engine achieves the same speed as the ctf-4x so i see it as no issue. Could even run a smaller engine for medium lasers. The jager does any ballistic builds better because it has the higher mounted weapons, i didn't see it as much of an advantage before but since i swapped from a 4 ac5 ctf-4x to a 4 ac5 jager i have actually started doing much much better. (4ac5 most damage i have done is 1250, 2ac2 and 2ac5 best is now 1107)
4 ac5 build:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9d6f13303376ab9
OR
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...913893361cf4258

Nothing some good piloting skill cannot fix with the 4X, which is 5 tons heavier. This means it gets a bigger eng and more ammo to boot, also being 5 more tons means more armor in critical locations. Overall the Jager is a weaker mech then the phracts in every way, it just doesn't have the tonnage.

CTF-4X For reference, 9 tons of ammo for 4 AC5's and that is still not enough ammo for those guns, and thats stripping as much armor as I dare to. 8 Tons can work but again, you are very low on ammo and 12v12 is very difficult for the mech to deal with.
CTF-4X 8 tons of ammo version.

CTF-4X AC2/5 combo.

Anyone whining about the low slung guns of the Cataphract, has no idea how to pilot the mech and is probably trying to do something its not designed to do. The phact is an open warfare mech, not some pussyfootted ridge humping mech. Its best suited to urban combat and open fields of fire, and works very well as a shadow of an Atlas since it dose lack the armor tonnage that most 70 and 75 ton mechs have. What it loses in armor it gains in sheer firepower. The Jager (a bigger version of the Rifleman) is an Anti Air mech and dose poorly in mech to mech combat due to paper thin armor. This fact holds very true in MWO as CT and LT/RT are very easy to blast open, even when the mech "ridge humps" due to the tracking fin on top of the CT.

Edited by SirLANsalot, 01 April 2014 - 07:37 PM.

[ExplodedZombie]

I've been secretly using this same build with a bigger engine, slightly less ammo for a while. I usually run out just as the last mech dies. Lots of "holy crap, Zombie, good damage!" The killz just roll in. Favorite one so far is a spider who was spotting from 1000m. Held down the mouse for 4 seconds and he disintegrated (aimed at torso )

Edit: actually I think it is the 260xl

Edited by ExplodedZombie, 02 April 2014 - 12:19 PM.

[POOTYTANGASAUR]

SirLANsalot, on 01 April 2014 - 07:37 PM, said:

Nothing some good piloting skill cannot fix with the 4X, which is 5 tons heavier. This means it gets a bigger eng and more ammo to boot, also being 5 more tons means more armor in critical locations. Overall the Jager is a weaker mech then the phracts in every way, it just doesn't have the tonnage.

CTF-4X For reference, 9 tons of ammo for 4 AC5's and that is still not enough ammo for those guns, and thats stripping as much armor as I dare to. 8 Tons can work but again, you are very low on ammo and 12v12 is very difficult for the mech to deal with.
CTF-4X 8 tons of ammo version.

CTF-4X AC2/5 combo.

Anyone whining about the low slung guns of the Cataphract, has no idea how to pilot the mech and is probably trying to do something its not designed to do. The phact is an open warfare mech, not some pussyfootted ridge humping mech. Its best suited to urban combat and open fields of fire, and works very well as a shadow of an Atlas since it dose lack the armor tonnage that most 70 and 75 ton mechs have. What it loses in armor it gains in sheer firepower. The Jager (a bigger version of the Rifleman) is an Anti Air mech and dose poorly in mech to mech combat due to paper thin armor. This fact holds very true in MWO as CT and LT/RT are very easy to blast open, even when the mech "ridge humps" due to the tracking fin on top of the CT.

You got a bit touchy but the jager does what i explained better and i did not whine about the weapon placement i simply said the jager had an advantage in that way. The cataphract only has 5 more armor on the ct, the side torsos have the same armor, and the arms have 4 more, the legs dont even matter considering they arent being shot when the jagers and cataphracts carry such strong weapons. I am sure others will argue that the jager is better but the jager is inferior in some ways. But it can fit bigger engines (ctf-4x max engine is 255 and the jager max is 315), the jager can fit ac20s (whether it be one or 2), the jager doesnt have arm actuators which like i said before good but also bad for aim. I love the CTF-4x but i find that i am able to gun down 4 ac5 CTFs in my jager and visa versa. I personally do more damage witht the jager but i definitely like the cataphracts brawling capabilities but the speed can be a problem. Its personal flavor. Both are used competitively.